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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ptarmigan on April 30, 2013, 08:28:07 AM
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Couple claim their sick five-month-old boy was taken away by police simply because they asked doctors for a second opinion
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2316783/5-month-old-taken-away-parents-wanting-second-opinion-sick-son.html
The parents of a 5-month-old were shocked when police showed up to take away their infant boy after they told a doctor they wanted a second opinion.
Caught on camera, the footage shows police entering the California home of Anna and Alex Nikolayev and asking Anna to hand over the baby.
‘I’m going to grab your baby,’ one of the several officers at the scene told Nikolayev, ‘And don’t resist and don’t fight me.’
It is in Sacramento, California. Not surprised by it. When can Commiefornia get hit by the big one.
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Obamacare ain't gonna allow no second opinions.........maybe not even a first opinion.....might as well get used to it and what better place to start the training process than in commiefornia.
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Why would a member of the police force go along with this?
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Why would a member of the police force go along with this?
Because he only got one side of the story: that of the nurse/doctor/hospital which was in CYA mode after seriously ****ing up in that baby's care.
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This is one case where i would agree with hiring a lawyer and suing. :mad:
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They did get the custody of their child back, but will be under the watchful eye of CPS; probably forever.
This is ultimate government control;
You own guns, CPS decides this is an unhealthy environment, ...
CPS declares your "extreme" political/religious views create an unhealthy environment, ...
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Hey, Hillary's homosexual village of idiots needed a baby.....so they took one.
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Beck mentioned this story today.
Disgusting what the police are doing these days.
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I hate nanny staters.
My youngest had necrotizing intestines and so his intestines were removed. He had parenteral nutrition ( feeding a person intravenously, bypassing the usual process of eating and digestion ) until he could get a transplant.
He did lose weight but I was desperately trying to get his weight up. it wasn't like he was skin and bones. A doctor called CPS anyway and so I went to court and the judge dismissed after she saw all his medical records and letters from other doctors including the surgeon.
Looking back we should have sued that doctor but I was trying to keep him alive at the time.
Sad part? Two children in their system died from beatings while we were being investigated.
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What is happening to America.
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What is happening to America.
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Every time I see that picture of Lady Liberty, I think of Doctor Who.
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CPS is great at taking children from good parents while allowing them to stay with monster that abuse them for real. This are the ones that they approve to be foster parents. If a good foster parent ever gets in the way of the system by advocating what is best for the child, they become targets too.
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They did get the custody of their child back, but will be under the watchful eye of CPS; probably forever.
This is ultimate government control;
You own guns, CPS decides this is an unhealthy environment, ...
CPS declares your "extreme" political/religious views create an unhealthy environment, ...
CPS will spend their time watching this loving family while ignoring all of the legitimate cases of child abuse in the city.
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CPS will spend their time watching this loving family while ignoring all of the legitimate cases of child abuse in the city.
It's all about obtaining an easy target and a revenue stream into their local office which is based solely upon headcount of "Clients". It doesn't matter they crap on the Constitution to obtain that head count.
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A few years ago, there was a married couple here that was arrested after bringing their son to the hospital covered with bruises. After being charged with child abuse and brought to trial, some doctors testified that the child had some rare condition that caused severe bruising.
The charges were eventually dropped, but at what cost to the parents?
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A few years ago, there was a married couple here that was arrested after bringing their son to the hospital covered with bruises. After being charged with child abuse and brought to trial, some doctors testified that the child had some rare condition that caused severe bruising.
The charges were eventually dropped, but at what cost to the parents?
Growing up we had a minister and his wife got their children's taken away because they thought the youngest was being abused turned out the little one has brittle bone disease
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California politician;
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/02/05/legal-child-abduction.aspx
"Most people are not aware of how much profit many of these services provide the county," John Van Doorn told a San Diego newspaper. "These profits are hard to ignore and even more difficult to pass up.
Counties can bring in thousands of dollars in excess revenue for each child in foster care, Van Doorn said – which means they have more incentive to remove children from their families than to keep families intact. "As such … our county government is a major factor in the dismantling of families and/or destruction of children's lives," he said.
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They did get the custody of their child back, but will be under the watchful eye of CPS; probably forever.
This is ultimate government control;
You own guns, CPS decides this is an unhealthy environment, ...
CPS declares your "extreme" political/religious views create an unhealthy environment, ...
Exactly! They are already training the kids in school to fear guns!
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This is ridiculous. :argh:When are people going to finally get fed up with this bull sh*t? :banghead: :hammer:
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California politician;
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/02/05/legal-child-abduction.aspx
"Most people are not aware of how much profit many of these services provide the county," John Van Doorn told a San Diego newspaper. "These profits are hard to ignore and even more difficult to pass up.
Counties can bring in thousands of dollars in excess revenue for each child in foster care, Van Doorn said – which means they have more incentive to remove children from their families than to keep families intact. "As such … our county government is a major factor in the dismantling of families and/or destruction of children's lives," he said.
Yes, the motivation is money. It is a system that is pushed onto the country at the federal level, structured at the state level, and administered at the county level. It is all about increasing funding which is based upon head count and little else. They cannot allow the head count to drop or they lose funding. the fact that perfectly good and innocent families are being destroyed doesn't matter to these EVIL commies.
Family/children/parental rights has been a topic that I researched and tracked over a decade after a family that was close to me was needlessly and mercilessly destroyed by CPS with no real proof or evidence that abuse actually occurred. CPS is a gestapo-like organization that does not require evidence to destroy a family. Family court judges will not hesitate to tell parents that their Constitutional rights mean nothing in their courtroom. The parents are also legally gagged from telling the public what occurs in the family courtroom. It's a real convenient racket for the nanny state.
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Yes, the motivation is money. It is a system that is pushed onto the country at the federal level, structured at the state level, and administered at the county level. It is all about increasing funding which is based upon head count and little else. They cannot allow the head count to drop or they lose funding. the fact that perfectly good and innocent families are being destroyed doesn't matter to these EVIL commies.
Family/children/parental rights has been a topic that I researched and tracked over a decade after a family that was close to me was needlessly and mercilessly destroyed by CPS with no real proof or evidence that abuse actually occurred. CPS is a gestapo-like organization that does not require evidence to destroy a family. Family court judges will not hesitate to tell parents that their Constitutional rights mean nothing in their courtroom. The parents are also legally gagged from telling the public what occurs in the family courtroom. It's a real convenient racket for the nanny state.
YES, seen this and was victimised by these leaches, threatened and only by the grace of God and a tape recorder managed to get 2 social workers fired.
Anyone can put in a malicious complaint against someone they dislike. Any reason will do, say Hubby seems too friendly with the woman up the street, their married boy friend has dumped them so to get even a call to CPS against his wife.
Results count in CPS, get the parent to sign a paper saying they don't clean their child's ears properly or dress them by dress code for school, anything to get them to sign and admit they failed in one way or the other.
Dog eat dog world out there in CPS, one needs some results to keep their job and a lie by them that can not be proved is a mess.
Some times these CPS workers will fall into the culture trap, their intent is to show that all calls they get are resolved by their hard work. Most people Lawyer up, this they like--proof that the parents have something to hide.
Culture is interesting, if they are unaware of the culture they dig a hole for themselves. They can claim that the child in public school has a couple of teachers, no names mentioned, that the children come to school dirty and hungry. But when they try that with parents that pay a hefty fee to send their children to a Catholic School, and they not knowing how the Church operates ,they really get into a mess when they lie about the interview with the NUNS.
The Cops are only doing their job when told to remove a child from it's home. Cops have no idea why they received these orders, they just carry them out. Can't blame the Police for following orders, it is not for them to question orders, just follow them.
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Sometimes it's up to us to do what we can. My daughter helped a father get custody of his son because the mother was dragging him from drug -party to drug -party. I kept the boy at my house the day after they snatched him, while they were in court getting an emergency custody order. He was 3, nearly 4. Not potty trained. He carried a sandwich bag around with him that had cereal in. I tried to get him to sit at the table for breakfast and lunch, finally gave up and put food in his "Baggie." The father has had him for a couple years now, and he's WAY better.
No CPS involvement required ...
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This is ridiculous. :argh: When are people going to finally get fed up with this bull sh*t? :banghead: :hammer:
Easy. When it's no longer someone else's life government thugs are destroying, or someone else's kids they're kidnapping.
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Folks, you have it all wrong and so did I.
Communist homos with no children, like those that work for CPS, truly know what is best for our children. [/sarcasm]
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So, four cops come in with hands on guns, without a warrant, and grab the child; sole on the word of Child Protective Services.
Your children are property of the state!
YouTube: cops coming in front door.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrtQaxzjv0Y
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So, four cops come in with hands on guns, without a warrant, and grab the child; sole on the word of Child Protective Services.
Your children are property of the state!
YouTube: cops coming in front door.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrtQaxzjv0Y
It happens all of the time and has for 20+ years. Some areas are worse than others.
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It happens all of the time and has for 20+ years. Some areas are worse than others.
This is an important case because the parents went international, and it's gone viral.
For the first time, millions are learning of Child Protective Services' absolute power over every child; don't even need a warrant.
For most folks falling pray to this evil agency, it's a long, and lonely, battle with a sad ending.
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Is Melissa Harris-Perry a communist ?
Kids Don't Belong to Their Parents
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/04/09/why_msnbc__the_left_resent_good_parents_117868.html
“This is about whether we as a society, expressing our collective will through our public institutions, including our government, have a right to impinge on individual freedoms in order to advance a common good.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/15/melissa-harris-perry-we-have-right-impinge-individ/
I guess it's something Hitler may have said and Melissa Harris-Perry believes.
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Megyn Kelly is covering the story. :cheersmate:
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Megyn Kelly is covering the story. :cheersmate:
But who's covering Megyn Kelly? :drool:
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This is ridiculous. :argh:When are people going to finally get fed up with this bull sh*t? :banghead: :hammer:
It's California. This is exactly what the majority of voters here in this bizzaro state want and think they need.
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It's California. This is exactly what the majority of voters here in this bizzaro state want and think they need.
Sad but true. I feel for anyone in that state right now. The stupid is strong there.
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It's not just that state, it's a massive industry that exist, down to the local government, everywhere.
And, of course, there's plenty of cases where the child needs to be taken away from the parents; but there's always been laws to handle that.
So we have an agency that's above all laws of the land, including the constitution, that can come and take your children, at gun point, whenever it decides to do so.
It's up to the agency to decide what constitutes an endangerment to the child; political believes, religious believes ... already happened.
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The other aspect of this is the family court system. The accusers (commonly an "anonymous" report) are not required to testify in the family court and the prosecution (CPS) is note required to disclose their evidence to be presented against the accused in advance of the court date like in the criminal court. The criminal courts are required to do this to allow the defense the ability to actually mount a defense. The Consitution requires that the accused should be allowed to face their accusers in a court of law. None of this is required in the family court where CPS has a racket of destroying families set up for their benefit.