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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on April 28, 2013, 12:59:23 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022765961
Oh my.
Omaha Steve (35,565 posts) Sat Apr 27, 2013, 09:02 PM
Animal Rights Activists Hack Foie Gras Website, Publish Customers' Names
http://www.buzzfeed.com/emofly/animal-rights-activists-hack-foie-gras-website-publish-custo
after which a photograph of ducks
Ducks that will eventually be slaughtered for food, including foie gras, on the grounds at Hudson Valley Foie Gras in Ferndale, New York.
Animal rights activists hacked the website of the largest American foie gras producer Monday and Tuesday. Names and emails of customers who bought duck products from Hudson Valley Foie Gras over the last year were then published on various websites.
Some customers whose names and emails were published — several of whom are chefs — said they had since received harassing calls and emails from activists. "Last night I was cooking and I got numerous phone calls on my cell phone from blocked numbers," said Laguna Beach, California chef Amar Santana, who said he purchased foie gras about a month ago because a customer specifically requested it, even though selling foie in California is illegal. "One lady called and said, 'Are you the foie gras mother****er?' And just hung up on me."
Santana said that now that his name, address, cell phone, and email have been published, he's going to stop selling foie. "Those people care about animals more than people sand they're getting the support of the government to get away with what they want," he said. "I'm not serving it anymore because this is getting out of hand."
The hackers sent the information to at least two animal rights organizations with a letter that said "for Earth Day we targeted Hudson Valley Foie Gras, the largest foie gras farm in the United States ... tortures birds and pollutes the earth." North American Animal Liberation Press Office received the hackers' letter and published the names Wednesday. The information was also published on negotiationisover.net.
after which a photograph of ducks being fed
A worker at Hudson Valley Foie Gas uses the force feeding machine to feed ducks.
FULL story at link.
Third up, the rich old guy with the gout and a much-younger trophy wife, although obviously in the latter, he did far better than the adroit sparkling old dude with his own much-younger trophy wife:
GoneOffShore (11,080 posts) Sat Apr 27, 2013, 09:21 PM
3. It is terrible that Hudson Valley Foie Gras is being harassed. No sarcasm.
And I'm talking about the harassment of chefs, diners and the producers of a perfectly legitimate food.
You can't produce good foie gras by being cruel to ducks or geese.
But the people who anthropomorphize - http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anthropomorphize - can't see anything but the cute baby ducklings, or the lambs, or the calves.
Just remember - they'd eat us if they could.
Then a prominent vegetarian primitive butts in:
RebelOne (26,655 posts) Sat Apr 27, 2013, 09:24 PM
4. I doubt that they would eat us if they could.
Most of those animals are vegetarians.
The rich old guy sets the record straight:
GoneOffShore (11,080 posts) Sat Apr 27, 2013, 09:27 PM
5. Sorry, they would eat us if they could.
Ducks are omnivorous.
And then we get this from a bona fide veterinarian, a real D.V.M., on Skins's island:
kestrel91316 (45,098 posts) Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:27 PM
11. Shameful behavior on the part of the animal "rights" activists.
It's basically terrorism, and some of those customers might be murdered.
I've never forgotten nor forgiven them for murdering that vet school dean or whoever he was years ago in TN, IIRC.
Have I mentioned yet today how much I hate PETA?
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Well isn't foie gras foreign?
The hateful old crones in the cooking group probably have it for lunch two or three times a week.
The odiferous cbayer (the thread slayer), who never showers, probably has a dedicated foie gras cooler on her tiny boat.
I'm sure it's a DUmp staple.
So what does the Omaha weeper think? Why did he start this thread and then run away?
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So what does the Omaha weeper think? Why did he start this thread and then run away?
I dunno, but I suspect the big guy's now worried that somebody's going to post on the internet all the stuff he's chowed down at restaurants the past year. It goes without saying it's a pretty long list.
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So what does the Omaha weeper think? Why did he start this thread and then run away?
Actually, to give him credit, the big guy did hang around to make two further comments, but they weren't his original composition, but just copy-and-paste jobs from newspaper articles.
I dunno why he's so taciturn; he used to be much more loquacious.
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Does Moochelle know about foie gras? .....does she care?
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Does Moochelle know about foie gras? .....does she care?
Only if someone tried to decrease her portion.
No one is brave enough to stand between that "woman" and her plate when she's wielding a fork!
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I'm beginning to think that this might be another of The Weeper's schemes to get on disability.
A guy his size should have been suffering from gout for years. He's probably been blessed with good genes in that sense, and hasn't managed to pack down enough meats and other good things to get gout yet. So now, he's looked into being force-fed himself to meet the intake level he'll need, which is how he stumbled on foie gras.
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Too bad they worry more about a duck than un-born humans............
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kestrel91316 (45,098 posts) Sat Apr 27, 2013, 10:27 PM
11. Shameful behavior on the part of the animal "rights" activists.
It's basically terrorism, and some of those customers might be murdered.
I've never forgotten nor forgiven them for murdering that vet school dean or whoever he was years ago in TN, IIRC.
Have I mentioned yet today how much I hate PETA?
The bona fide veterinarian DUmmy knows that leftist "animal rights" activists are willing to kill veterinarians who perform euthanasia or certain surgical procedures, such as declawing cats or cropping Dobies and Danes; or work for research laboratories, zoos, ranches, and confinement operations.
She fears her fellow moonbats.
Hasn't the subway cat primitive wished death on veterinarians?
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You know, I think it's the usual DUmmie emotions we're seeing here....greed, envy, jealousy, laziness....OS wants someone to stick a tube down his thoart and force feed him at government expense.
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From the same thread:
Omaha Steve (35,599 posts)
12. Police: Rumors Link Animal Rights Activists to Dean's Killing
Rumors! (all I could find) and ''Everything in it was unconfirmed,''
Why would animals rights activists kill ANOTHER activist?
Militant animal rights groups are the Jihad wing associated with Westboro Baptist. Easy to start rumors. The rumors about the DA killings in Texas were wrong. Get the point?
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1990/Police-Rumors-Link-Animal-Rights-Activists-to-Dean-s-Killing/id-689a8da3ce44b4c36153a2197602ea62
AP , Associated Press
Feb. 24, 1990 11:23 PM ET
KNOXVILLE, TENN. KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (AP) _ Police nationwide were alerted last week to rumors that militant animal rights activists might be planning to kill a veterinarian school dean each month for a year, authorities said.
Homicide Detective Lt. Larry Johnson of the Knox County sheriff's office, lead investigator in the Feb. 8 ambush slaying of University of Tennessee veterinary school dean Dr. Hyram Kitchen, said the information was released as a precaution only.
''We just put out third-hand information,'' Johnson said. ''We put it out for only one reason: we didn't want to sit on anything.''
Kitchen, 57, was gunned down outside his home in north Knox County as he was leaving for a work-related breakfast meeting.
He was shot eight times with a .22-caliber revolver, twice in the back of the head.
FULL story at link.
http://www.wbir.com/rss/article/170236/2/Cold-Case-Murder-of-former-UT-vet-school-dean-still-mystery
Cold Case: Murder of former UT vet school dean still mystery (11:09 PM, May 19, 2011)
He was a popular professor, an advocate for animals, a husband and a father.
He also is a murder victim.
On Feb. 8, 1990, Dr. Hyram Kitchen was gunned down in the driveway of his Northwest Knox County home.
FULL story and video at link.
And then there's this:
tblue (13,674 posts)
39. It's a rumor
Do not spread.
This is how much tblue hates spreading rumors:
tblue (13,674 posts)
1. I have no idea
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but there could be a connection. I mean this that happened in Boston could be blowback for our drone attacks or any of the other atrocities committed in our name. That in NO way justifies anything like Boston, but if someone is really determined to strike the US, and they don't have an army, they will use whatever means they can and attack our soft underbelly. We do a lot to piss people off. We can't expect to never pay a price for it. Ugh. Those poor people today. Dammit!!!!!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022682824
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Response to Omaha Steve (Reply #12)
Sun Apr 28, 2013, 01:00 PM
tblue (13,674 posts)
39. It's a rumor
Do not spread.
Two weeks is a lifetime to a DUmmy.
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Two weeks is a lifetime to a DUmmy.
tsmurf can't even wait 2 threads:
Behind the Aegis (27,289 posts)
18. Tacky.
I don't like foie gras, veal, and such. It is cruel and it is totally unnecessary. However, this type of "activism" is bullshit. Let's see how "funny" or "poignant" these tactics are when someone does the same to a Gay youth site, the rape prevention hotline, and the list could go on.
tblue (13,674 posts)
40. Gay youth aren't torturing anybody.
Not the same thing.
Behind the Aegis (27,289 posts)
47. You missed the point, I see.
Foie Gras is not illegal.
tblue (13,674 posts)
52. Doesn't make it right.
It's cruel.
Behind the Aegis (27,289 posts)
54. You're right, it doesn't make what they did right.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Personally, I am against the production of foie gras and veal, and wish it would be outlawed, but it hasn't been, and it is legal. This does not give "activists" the right to publish the names of those who purchase and use those products in order to shame or harass them.
Would you support someone publishing a list of people who had abortions? There are a number of people who think that is cruel, including some left of center. I don't; I think it is legal and should remain as such, it should also remain a private affair.
tblue (13,674 posts)
76. No.
And if this is your issue and a cause tat moves you, then go work on it if you are so inclined. You can't make me support something I don't support.
Behind the Aegis (27,289 posts)
80. You are supporting illegal actions.
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The OP also says it posted the names of ALL the customers, not just ones who bought foie gras. I doubt any distinctions were made for those getting threatening/harassing phone calls. So it seems you and a few others are of the school of "two wrongs, do make a right."
ETA: Oh, and go re-read this subthread, YOU would be the one "badgering" me!
tblue (13,674 posts)
94. You are badgering.
With all due respect, I don't care what you think but you seem to be way too concerned about what I think and an inexplicable need to control it. Can't be done. Go help the fg eaters if you are so concerned about them. Makes me no difference. You are wasting your time with me. Honestly.
Behind the Aegis (27,289 posts)
95. And I don't care what you think. But you are projecting.
YOU responded to my post. I have no need to control jack-shit about you, I was only countering your remarks, which, as I said, was IN RESPONSE TO MY POST. What I do care about are people's rights to privacy, something you have made perfectly clear you don't give two shit about if they are "bad" people according to you. But, we do agree on one thing, it is a waste of time to respond further to someone who doesn't care about other's rights to privacy based on whether s/he likes who or what they are.
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_A83Odp3mjzwNcAUikzGRqacIA3Y8iuhdGPmh-z2TiHQrt5Dz)
And then Omaha Steve sticks his big, fat head in and gets it big, fat handed back to him:
Omaha Steve (35,599 posts)
97. What if they hacked and published...
Child porn abusers. Where is the line in the sand?
Child porn: it's like eating foie gras
Behind the Aegis (27,289 posts)
98. That is illegal activity.
What is happening at Hudson Valley is NOT illegal activity. Do you honestly not see the difference? Now, as for the restaurant chefs in California serving foie gras, they are in violation of the law of their state, and that information should be passed onto the proper authorities, but the persons in Colorado and Virginia whose information was published, how is that kosher in your eyes?
Omaha Steve (35,599 posts)
99. So you care about kids that are abused
Buy don't have trouble looking at videos of what these ducks go through?
Behind the Aegis (27,289 posts)
100. Do you understand the difference between "legal" and "illegal?"
And, if you bother to look at what I have already written, more than once, I wish the practice would be outlawed, so take your strawman fallacies elsewhere and kindly answer the questions asked of you.
Omaha Steve (35,599 posts)
101. Just as much as you understand pain and suffering
Slavery was legal. Want that back?
Behind the Aegis (27,289 posts)
102. So you have nothing and continue to flail with one logical fallacy after another.
Do you support the hacking of a gay youth site and publishing those names and numbers? What about a site for testing of HIV? Sadly, I understand more about pain and suffering than you do about logic and legality.
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Omaha Steve (35,599 posts)
Buy don't have trouble looking at videos of what these ducks go through?
Steve, Steve, Steve. Stop with the false outrage already. Everybody knows you'd swallow a goose whole just to get its liver.
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THEY'RE PEOPLE!
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:lmao:
Every time i read about duck I think of "Deck the hars with bawrs of hawry Fa-ra-ra-ra-ra."
Mmmm duck!
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I'll describe foie gras: Looks like poo.
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I'll describe foie gras: Looks like poo.
Had it.........................once. I'll pass, but I won't cry over a stupid goose or duck.
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Had it.........................once. I'll pass, but I won't cry over a stupid goose or duck.
Yeah, the French will eat anything.
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Yeah, the French will eat anything.
As long as it smells better than they do.
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As long as it smells better than they do.
They eat dog feces?