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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: zeitgeist on April 23, 2013, 02:19:04 PM
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http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10022741295
I grabbed the whole thing and dragged it over.
Very small blaze at the moment. :fuelfire:
Star Member The Straight Story (41,045 posts)
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Boston Suspect Purchased Fireworks
Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the elder brother suspected in the Boston Marathon bombings, bought two large pyrotechnic devices in February from a New Hampshire branch of a national fireworks chain, according to executives at the chain's parent company.
William Weimer, a vice president of Phantom Fireworks, said the elder Mr. Tsarnaev on Feb. 6 purchased two "Lock and Load" reloadable mortar kits at the company's Seabrook, N.H. store, just over the border from Massachusetts. Each kit contains a tube and 24 shells, he said. Mr. Tsarnaev paid cash for the kits, which cost $199.99 apiece.
It wasn't clear if the powder from these fireworks was used in the bombings. A Federal Bureau of Investigation affidavit filed in the court case against the younger of the two suspected bombers, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, said the bombs contained "low-grade explosives." The affidavit also said a "large pyrotechnic" had been found at the younger brother's college dorm room.
One federal law-enforcement official briefed on the probe said the government's working theory was that the powder used to power the bombs could have come from high-powered fireworks. The official said there were other possible sources for similar powder and investigators hadn't drawn any firm conclusions.
Mr. Weimer said Phantom Fireworks, which is based in Youngstown, Ohio, combed its records after the names of the suspected Boston bombers became public and immediately contacted the FBI after it discovered that Mr. Tsarnaev had made the purchase. Tamerlan Tsarnaev died last week in a shootout with police.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324235304578440843633991044.html
davepc (3,728 posts)
1. If the propelant in common fireworks is strong enough to cause this blast
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then we need federal comprehensive common sense 50 state fireworks controls.
Nobody should be allowed to possess enough explosive to just put it in a pot and walk away and maim that many people.
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Tue Apr 23, 2013, 01:53 PM
Star Member snooper2 (16,349 posts)
2. oh great here we go...
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Tue Apr 23, 2013, 01:56 PM
Star Member The Straight Story (41,045 posts)
3. So punish the many based on the few?
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My family and many others I know have bought fireworks from Phantom for years.
You can make your own powder at home:
http://www.skylighter.com/fireworks/how-to-make/high-powered-black-powder.asp
Which would be cheaper than buying fireworks and messing with them.
A few misuse certain things, the rest of us should not be seen as potential terrorists and have things limited because of them.
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Tue Apr 23, 2013, 02:01 PM
Star Member rdking647 (2,468 posts)
4. where do you draw the line
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i can buy
stumpremover at most garden stores. the main ingredient on it it posassium nitrate,the primary ingredient on gunpowder.
ammonium nitrate is fertilizer (see the west texas explosion) mix it with something like gasoline in a pressure cooker and you have a pretty powerful bomb..
unfortunatley its easy to make explosives with common ingredients. makign a bomb from fireworks is actually more dificult
Hey Sparky kind a close to the plant IIRC. Did they ever find that security guard who went missing back along BTW?
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Yeah, DUmmies making their own fireworks. Yeah, this'll turn out well.
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Yeah, DUmmies making their own fireworks. Yeah, this'll turn out well.
[youtube=425,350]j6tbzCt8i0A[/youtube]
I'm having a hard time finding a downside...
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Is there nothing these idiots wouldn't want to ban? Seriously.
KC
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Is there nothing these idiots wouldn't want to ban? Seriously.
KC
pot
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A few misuse certain things, the rest of us should not be seen as potential terrorists and have things limited because of them.
So, the same can be said of guns, right?
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I find it 'interesting' that the primitives seem to be missing the fact that the younger brother was a total stoner -- and even though he spent most of his life baked, he still managed to find time to kill and maim people intentionally.
..But potheads are never violent, unlike those mean nasty drunks, right DUmmies ? - Just ask Charles Manson, he'll tell ya.
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I find it 'interesting' that the primitives seem to be missing the fact that the younger brother was a total stoner -- and even though he spent most of his life baked, he still managed to find time to kill and maim people intentionally.
they are not missing that fact, just ignoring it.
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The Straight Story (41,045 posts)
3. So punish the many based on the few?
You get used to it.
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Infanticide
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How about banning moonbattery. :fuelfire:
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davepc (3,728 posts)
1. If the propelant in common fireworks is strong enough to cause this blast
then we need federal comprehensive common sense 50 state fireworks controls.
Nobody should be allowed to possess enough explosive to just put it in a pot and walk away and maim that many people.
....federal comprehensive common sense 50 state (insert anything here) controls.
What will it be next week, Hugo?
Is there nothing these idiots wouldn't want to ban? Seriously.
KC
No.
A few misuse certain things, the rest of us should not be seen as potential terrorists and have things limited because of them.
So, the same can be said of guns, right?
:hi5: They step in it, when it isn't even there.
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The Straight Story (41,045 posts)
3. So punish the many based on the few?
Why are taxpayers punished because DUmmies won't work?
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davepc (3,728 posts)
1. If the propelant in common fireworks is strong enough to cause this blast
then we need federal comprehensive common sense 50 state fireworks controls.
The Feds thru the ATF already control professional grade fireworks which are classified as 1.3 explosives. The stuff the muslim bombers purchased is classified as 1.4 explosives and is not controlled by the ATF for quantities under 1,000 pounds.