The Conservative Cave

Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOP Congress on April 19, 2013, 10:05:58 PM

Title: Time to fret over the removal of Miranda Rights for the Boston bomber
Post by: GOP Congress on April 19, 2013, 10:05:58 PM

(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj434/GOPCongress/du04.jpg)

(http://i554.photobucket.com/albums/jj434/GOPCongress/transparent.png)

DU THREAD: No Miranda rights for now for bombing suspect (LINK) (http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014460579) Original Post by kpete

OK, campers. A terrorist has been caught alive. So what do the dumprats crying about now? Boo hoo hoo, no Miranda rights given! Shows you the priorities of this bunch. Quote OP. kpete (Star Member) - Fri Apr 19, 2013 (10:33 pm) Original Post - Post Count: 38,615 No Miranda rights for now for bombing suspect Source: Politico The Boston Marathon bombing suspect captured Friday night will not be immediately read his Miranda rights, a Justice Department official said. The announcement came as a debate broke out among lawmakers, lawyers and political activists over whether the suspect, Dzhokar Tsarnaev, should be prosecuted in a civilian criminal court or subjected to military interrogation and over when and whether Tsarnaev should be told about his right to an attorney. eginning several hours before Tsarnaev’s capture, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) wrote on Twitter that the suspect ought to be placed in military custody. “If captured, I hope Administration will at least consider holding the Boston suspect as enemy combatant for intelligence gathering purposes,” Graham wrote Friday afternoon. “The last thing we may want to do is read Boston suspect Miranda Rights telling him to ‘remain silent.’” Read more: <a (SOURCE LINK) (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/no-miranda-rights-for-now-for-bombing-suspect-90362.html?hp=f1) <hr size="1" noshade=""> this will backfire, it always does... kp (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIQfwI5CMAA1tWu.jpg) OK, here we go. Quote 1. Kali (Star Member) - Fri Apr 19, 2013 (10:36 pm) Reply to kpete (Original post) - Post Count: 33,051 yeah **** the constitution!!11!!! just a piece of paper Just like the way you guys protect the 2nd and the 10th amendments. Gotcha. Quote 5. LovingA2andMI (Moocher) - Fri Apr 19, 2013 (10:44 pm) Reply to Kali (#1) - Post Count: 248 Did Dzhokhar and Tamerlane Tsarnaev care about the Constitutional rights.... Of the citizens they murdered and injured to the point that many lost their limbs? NOPE, not at all. Supporting President Obama 150% on this one! Charge, convict and punish Dzhokar Tsarnaev with the Death Penalty! OK, someone who actually thinks that sometimes the "rights" are actually pragmatic when it is a terrorist act, and actually credits Der Leader for this. So even in contradiction to the thread, he gives kudos to the one who has screwed the pooch with regard to international terrorism. Quote 9. Kali (Star Member) - Fri Apr 19, 2013 (10:51 pm) Reply to LovingA2andMI (#5) - Post Count: 33,051 does any criminal? the protections are for all of us.  it is how we are better than them. Back to DU reality. "For all the criminals..." Quote 2. brett_jv (Moocher) - Fri Apr 19, 2013 (10:37 pm) Reply to kpete (Original post) - Post Count: 98 I understand the thinking ... But I think it's still wrong and unconstitutional. If he wasn't a citizen I'd entertain the idea, but he is, and he was caught on US Soil. So this should be a no-brainer to read him his rights. Yeppers. A "no-brainter." From one such specimen to another... Quote 3. midnight (Moocher) - Fri Apr 19, 2013 (10:40 pm) Reply to brett_jv (#2) - Post Count: 23,059 Not if the NDAA has anything to say about it..... Quote 8. DirkGently (Star Member) - Fri Apr 19, 2013 (10:50 pm) Reply to 24601 (#4) - Post Count: 6,520 They're invoking a SCOTUS "public safety exception" to Miranda. So the idea is that any statements will be admissible. It's an odd, narrow exception based on a case where cops cornered a guy, saw his empty holster, and demanded to know where the gun was hidden before they read him his rights. If the statement had been inadmissible, apparently the whole case would have been tossed. Strange thing publicly announcing invoking this. The case reads like it's something a cop would decide, on the spot, was necessary, not something you plan out and announce. Not a great way to go here, in my opinion. <a (SOURCE LINK) (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=467&invol=649) DU THREAD: No Miranda rights for now for bombing suspect (LINK) (http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014460579)

Title: Re: Time to fret over the removal of Miranda Rights for the Boston bomber
Post by: Freeper on April 19, 2013, 10:09:39 PM

Seeing that picture of that asshole getting medical treatment reminds me of just how special someone has to be to be in the medical field. They have to save the lives of some horrible people and treat them just as they would the innocent victims that these assholes hurt.

Title: Re: Time to fret over the removal of Miranda Rights for the Boston bomber
Post by: Firekrakka on April 19, 2013, 11:05:23 PM

Quote

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BIQfwI5CMAA1tWu.jpg)

If Obama had a son this would be it...

"Obama you my dawg"

Title: Re: Time to fret over the removal of Miranda Rights for the Boston bomber
Post by: txradioguy on April 20, 2013, 02:22:59 AM

Note to DUmmies...there are special exemptions for "public safety" when the reading Miranda Rights can be delayed.

These two were planting bombs all over Boston...who knows how many could still be out there under a bridge in a subway car or on a bus waiting to go off.

If they Mirandize him right now...he'll lawyer up and where those bombs are will never be known until they go off.

This way they can sweat him for the location of any more bombs that might have been hidden...once they are sure he's being truthful and the locations of all unaccounted for pipe and pressure cooker IED's are known...then they can Mirandize him.

Not that the law and how it's written matters to you f**ksticks.

As I said elsewhere...if it were up to me...once he's well enough to travel...I'd drag him out to Logan and put him on a flight to Russia...final destination...Lubyanka Square and the building near where the statue of Iron Feliks used to reside.

Title: Re: Time to fret over the removal of Miranda Rights for the Boston bomber
Post by: BlueStateSaint on April 20, 2013, 04:59:34 AM

Quote from: txradioguy on April 20, 2013, 02:22:59 AM

Note to DUmmies...there are special exemptions for "public safety" when the reading Miranda Rights can be delayed.

These two were planting bombs all over Boston...who knows how many could still be out there under a bridge in a subway car or on a bus waiting to go off.

If they Mirandize him right now...he'll lawyer up and where those bombs are will never be known until they go off.

This way they can sweat him for the location of any more bombs that might have been hidden...once they are sure he's being truthful and the locations of all unaccounted for pipe and pressure cooker IED's are known...then they can Mirandize him.

Not that the law and how it's written matters to you f**ksticks.

As I said elsewhere...if it were up to me...once he's well enough to travel...I'd drag him out to Logan and put him on a flight to Russia...final destination...Lubyanka Square and the building near where the statue of Iron Feliks used to reside.

Seconded! :cheersmate:

Title: Re: Time to fret over the removal of Miranda Rights for the Boston bomber
Post by: AprilRazz on April 20, 2013, 05:17:45 AM

Hey DUmbasses, he has been taken into custody, not arrested yet.

From the looks of him he would have had no idea if they did it or not. Blood loss alone will alter his mental status enough that he may not even have known his own name at that point. They will get him stable at the hospital then he will be placed under arrest and read his rights.

If they had read him his rights at the scene you morons would be peeing in your panties that he didn't understand them. :loser:

Title: Re: Time to fret over the removal of Miranda Rights for the Boston bomber
Post by: formerlurker on April 20, 2013, 06:19:54 AM

Quote

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Carmen_M._Ortiz.jpg/220px-Carmen_M._Ortiz.jpg)

Carmen Ortiz
Carmen Milagros Ortiz is the current United States Attorney for the District of Massachusetts. In 2009, she was nominated to the position by President Barack Obama.

You own her misfits.

Title: Re: Time to fret over the removal of Miranda Rights for the Boston bomber
Post by: jtyangel on April 20, 2013, 06:23:04 AM

Quote from: AprilRazz on April 20, 2013, 05:17:45 AM

Hey DUmbasses, he has been taken into custody, not arrested yet.

From the looks of him he would have had no idea if they did it or not. Blood loss and alone will alter his mental status enough that he may not even have known his own name at that point. They will get him stable at the hospital then he will be placed under arrest and read his rights.

If they had read him his rights at the scene you morons would be peeing in your panties that he didn't understand them. :loser:

Yep, there is no winning with those fools. That's why their input into the running of a free society should be dismissed out of hand.Don't worry dummies, that isnt a threat; you should just be treated like the children that you are. Children can be very cute and endearing but we don't concern them or consult them over grown up matters.