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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on April 17, 2013, 07:09:20 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=236x51025
Man, it's just so weird, how the primitives have been obsessed with pressure cookers.
And for such a very long time, too.
RushIsRot (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-06-08 06:34 PM
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Pressure Cooker Disaster
I just tried to cook a roast in a pressure cooker. It is an older cooker and I've done this before, but this time I used a jiggler from a smaller cooker because I forgot mine in my move. I cannot remember how I did this last time, but this time I put in the meat after pouring in enough water to cover the cooking rack. (About 1/4 inch deep or maybe a little more.)It seemed to take an unusually long time to start jiggling. I got a timer and was watching the cooking time and heard the pressure release safety valve pop open. I'm afraid I burned the roast and I cannot even get the cooker open now. I was cooking with the jiggler set at 15.
Tell me how I went so wrong please.
Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-06-08 06:42 PM
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1. I can't help you
I'm afraid of pressure cookers. My mother used one once to make split pea soup.
The explosion coated our kitchen ceiling green, and our cat dropped dead of a heart attack.
I'm glad you only lost the roast. I'm telling ya, those things are dangerous.
eridani (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-06-08 08:52 PM
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4. The split peas foam and can clog up the little hole
I always used to use 5 lbs instead of 15 lbs pressure for split peas for that reason. I now have a Cuisinart pressure cooker with a little spring device which can't get clogged. Still has a aafety blowout option though.
Never have come close to needing it, though.
Inevitably, Ugly showed up:
Warpy (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-06-08 07:04 PM
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2. If the jiggler from the other pot was constructed the same as the one from the pot you used, there shouldn't have been a problem. However, if it seated improperly, you could have either lost all the water inside or created too much pressure inside. In any case, it sounds like an inadequate amount of water. You cooked your cooker by overheating it.
Chances are that you've lost the pot and the contents.
You might be able to heat the top with boiling water enough to free it from the base and get it open (the base sitting in ice might help the process).
The other possibility is that you cooked the O-ring inside the lid (if it has one), and that ring is gluing both sides together. I once managed to free one like that with a screw driver stuck in where I could to unstick what I could, but that ring needed to be replaced.
In any case, the pressure release worked exactly the way it was supposed to and you had neither shrapnel nor roast on the ceiling.
RushIsRot (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-06-08 07:15 PM
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3. Some good news
I finally got the pot open and since the roast was sitting on a rack, it was cooked and not burned. Only the juices were charred, so I took a large cooking pot, added some beef bullion cubes plus one vegetable bullion cube, some red cooking wine and some worcestershire sauce and poured in my veggies. Now they're cooking along in that broth.
I may pull this meal out of the fire yet...
pengillian101 (1000+ posts) Sat Dec-06-08 09:19 PM
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5. PLEASE be careful and don't deviate from the instructions, especially with older equipment.
One of my very first jobs was working in the office of the famous pressure cooker plant decades ago. They are safe if all parts are used correctly. I used them myself for decades. If you buy a used cooker - go on-line and find the maker and buy a user's book.
Rubber parts dry out and need replacing every once in awhile. Don't switch parts from one-sized cooker to another. Use caution and don't experiment. Use tried and true recipes. Many pressure cookbooks are sold cheap on EBay. Or download a pamphlet from the manufacturer's site.
My caution is due to this: The office of the pressure cooker manufacturer where I worked in 1971 had a separate, LOCKED room that had file cabinets of disasters. Lawsuits pending. Folks who didn't follow the directions.
Pressure cookers are safe - IF you follow all directions/recipes and replace parts when needed and don't swap parts from one cooker with another.
Warpy (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-07-08 01:02 PM
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12. I'd advise people not to use the old ones, at all and use only the ones with the emergency vent that will release pressure before the thing turns into a bomb.
Pressure cookers should be attended to at all times. No, you don't have to sit and stare at it, but you do need to be within earshot of the ones with the jigglers and within sight of the ones with a pressure dial.
However, shit happens. Kids fall out of the apple tree and drunks can wreck their cars in front of the house. That pressure valve makes sure another emergency doesn't create a worse one in the kitchen if you have to run so fast you don't have time to hit the burner control first.
People got into trouble with those old cookers because they didn't have that fail safe valve. The accidents could be horrific. If you've got an old one, display it as a curiosity or shitcan it. Just don't use it.
hippywife (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-07-08 11:04 AM
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9. When I saw that thread title it scared the bejeezuz outta me! Glad it wasn't what I thought it would be and you're okay and not injured. Hope your roast is okay, too.
I did buy an older pressure canner, which I will be using next spring, but I went on-line and ordered replacement parts for the exact model just to be safe. I almost ordered a new ring for a smaller one that I picked up from the leavings of an estate sale at work but then I noticed that the top and bottom are two different makers. Not going to be using that one!
^^^the long-departed hippywife primitive Mrs. Alfred Packer.
For those who don't know, hippyhubby Wild Bill, jealous of the attention she was giving the cooking and baking primitives, forced her to stop hanging around Skins's island and to devote more attention to him.
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and yet not one plea for the government to regulate and control these terrible WMDs...
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Which brings us to the REAL issue. In the WRONG HANDS these things can be EXTREMELY DANGEROUS and we as a society simply cannot afford to have pressure cookers out there that are completely uncontrolled. We are talking about some common sense laws. First, most people do not need high capacity pressure cookers. Limiting pressure cookers to a quart will make society safer. In addition, with all the documented instances of pressure cookers being used to construct explosive devices, and in light of the numbers of killed and injured, two things are clear: pressure cookers are lethal and we are in the midst of a pressure cooker violence epidemic. There is no need for pressure cooker nuts to run around with their pressure cookers without any regulation and oversight. Mandatory mental health evaluations and federal background checks will help to ensure that a pressure cooker doesn't fall in the wrong hands. Should people convicted of felonies and domestic violence misdemeanors be banned from owning pressure cookers? ABSOLUTELY! Even if it saves just one life, it's worth it. How about that soccer mom? Well, it depends. What if she loves soccer but hates America? Do you REALLY want THAT soccer mom (much less some DUmbass) to have unfettered access to something so potentially deadly?