The Conservative Cave

Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on April 14, 2013, 12:03:11 PM

Title: Should abortion clinics be regulated like other outpatient surgery facilities?
Post by: Freeper on April 14, 2013, 12:03:11 PM
Quote
B2G (1,381 posts)

Should abortion clinics be regulated like other outpatient surgery facilities?


 
I've seen some activity by various states to push for this legislation.

On the one hand, I can see how this could be problematic for states where pro lifers are at the helm and enforce it with such overkill that some clinics would be forced to close or undergo extreme hardship.

On the other hand, if I'm going in for an abortion, I want to make damned sure they are staffed with competent, certified personnel, are enforcing strict sanitation guidelines and have the available equipment on hand and procedures in place should something go terribly wrong.

What do you think?

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10022671734

Every abortion goes horribly wrong.

Quote
PeaceNikki (18,794 posts)
1. They already are.

The problem with the horrible case in PA was that those regulations were not enforced.

Sounds like an NRA talking point about guns.

Title: Re: Should abortion clinics be regulated like other outpatient surgery facilities?
Post by: Conservative Libertarian on April 14, 2013, 01:31:23 PM
Abortion clinics are not outpatient surgery facilities. They are outpatient surgery fallacies.
Title: Re: Should abortion clinics be regulated like other outpatient surgery facilities?
Post by: wasp69 on April 14, 2013, 02:19:12 PM
Quote
B2G (1,381 posts)

Should abortion clinics be regulated like other outpatient surgery facilities?


 
I've seen some activity by various states to push for this legislation.

On the one hand, I can see how this could be problematic for states where pro lifers are at the helm and enforce it with such overkill that some clinics would be forced to close or undergo extreme hardship.

Change "pro lifers" to democrats and "clinics" to utilities, gun rights, business, etc and, well, you know the rest...
Title: Re: Should abortion clinics be regulated like other outpatient surgery facilities?
Post by: Delmar on April 14, 2013, 08:03:51 PM
Quote
Response to B2G (Original post)Sun Apr 14, 2013, 01:12 PM
Deep13 (36,952 posts)
5. New safety rules are a ruse...

...to make abortions difficult to get despite being ostensibly legal.

This is known as the Barry strategy:

Quote
So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry#ixzz2QUQqfJic
Title: Re: Should abortion clinics be regulated like other outpatient surgery facilities?
Post by: Chris_ on April 14, 2013, 08:08:15 PM
This is known as the Barry strategy:

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry#ixzz2QUQqfJic
"You'll get to keep your insurance."

"No one making under $250,000 will see a tax hike."

"There will be no lobbyists working in my administration."

"... a laser-like focus on job creation."

The only thing he didn't lie about was energy prices "necessarily skyrocketing".  President Peace Prize really knows his stuff.
Title: Re: Should abortion clinics be regulated like other outpatient surgery facilities?
Post by: Delmar on April 14, 2013, 09:00:56 PM
Quote
“They looked just like regular babies,” Baldwin said to Assistant District Attorney Joanne Pescatore.

Baldwin said one baby she saw was so big that Gosnell joked that “this baby is going to walk me home.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/04/11/gosnell-abortion-clinic-worker-i-assisted-with-abortions-while-in-high-school/

Outside of my funny zone.

 :ownit:
Title: Re: Should abortion clinics be regulated like other outpatient surgery facilities?
Post by: BEG on April 14, 2013, 09:35:31 PM
Here read this DUmmies. I triple dog dare you to read the whole thing: http://www.phila.gov/districtattorney/PDFs/GrandJuryWomensMedical.pdf
Title: Re: Should abortion clinics be regulated like other outpatient surgery facilities?
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on April 14, 2013, 10:28:16 PM
Quote
abortion clinics be regulated like other outpatient surgery facilities?  I've seen some activity by various states to push for this legislation.

On the one hand, I can see how this could be problematic for states where pro lifers are at the helm and enforce it with such overkill that some clinics would be forced to close or undergo extreme hardship.

Oh, really?  Regulations?  Problematic?!?!?  Close or extreme hardship!!!!

But.......unicorns, right?  


Quote
“They looked just like regular babies,” Baldwin said to Assistant District Attorney Joanne Pescatore.

Baldwin said one baby she saw was so big that Gosnell joked that “this baby is going to walk me home.”

It's alright.  It's just an inconvenient blob of cells that gets in the way of you getting your freak on.  I mean, it belongs to the government anyway, doesn't it?


Clueless, hypocritical Mongoloids...
Title: Re: Should abortion clinics be regulated like other outpatient surgery facilities?
Post by: chitownchica on April 14, 2013, 11:23:42 PM
Wonder how many DUmmies are wishing they hadn't been so strident in their glee for increased gun regulations. Just like the argument for gun control - If we can't outlaw abortion, we can certainly make it so expensive that few can afford it.  If the argument follows the gun grabbers' line, everyone who has an abortion must go through safety classes and testing, pay for a license to confirm they understand everything that will happen, and register in a national database.  We must also heavily regulate and tax abortion providers.  In addition to malpractice insurance, they must carry insurance to cover those who are affected by the tragedy of abortion. There are many people, beyond the mother, who are affected by the decision to terminate the life of the family member.  


Graham4numbers DUmmie, ElisonZ DUmbass, and the rest of those delicate flowers gave me many great ideas.
Title: Re: Should abortion clinics be regulated like other outpatient surgery facilities?
Post by: Celtic Rose on April 14, 2013, 11:47:55 PM
Quite simply, if they are going to argue that abortion is a valid medical procedure then they don't have any wiggle room in regards to abortion clinics being looked at just as stringently as any outpatient clinic.