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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on April 13, 2013, 11:11:42 AM
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trumad (34,221 posts)
If one more person calls my hard earned Social Security an Entitlement. ...
I will reach through the internet tubes and choke them until they turn blue.
It's not a God Damn entitlement, I PAID FOR IT!
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10022666241
If your benefits get cut, just think of it as a tax and you are paying your fair share. It's the same thing you goons want to do us tax payers so suck it up and quit whining.
Robb (37,777 posts)
1. You paid for it, you're entitled to it.
(ducks)
trumad (34,221 posts)
2. me thinks that's not what they mean.
NightWatcher (20,100 posts)
3. Straight out of Orwell, they've taken over the language
And that is not double plus good.
Who is this "they" you speak of? It is your side that constantly changes the language to suit your purposes. It was your side that started calling welfare and other freebies entitlements, even though they are not earned. You changed the meaning so you can just live with it.
whathehell (10,949 posts)
26. Agreed. The word now carries negative connotations, unfortunately, thanks to Right Wing World.
and it's hideous, but significant impact on this country.
To many, It now conveys a sort of arrogance, as in "He's thinks he's entitled".
You tell me the 0bamaphone woman is "entitled" to her free phone and a cut of all our earnings, it was not the right wing that is responsible for the misuse of the word entitlement.
Newest Reality (2,907 posts)
4. You haven't been
checking the Newspeak dictionary:
new•speak ('nü-"spEk, 'nyü-), noun, Usage: often capitalized. : propagandistic language marked by euphemism, circumlocution, and the inversion of customary meanings. Etymology: Newspeak, a language "designed to diminish the range of thought," in the novel 1984 (1949) by George Orwell. Date: 1950
http://www.newspeakdictionary.com/ns-dict.html
Are you not entitled to your entitlements? Or are your entitlements what you are not entitled to? Both? Neither?
They play with the language as they please and to a certain end.
More projection.
Some examples of left wing language changing is global warming became global climate change, illegal aliens are now undocumented workers, marriage is being changed from a man and a woman to any person and any person, and gun control is changing into gun safety.
They also pull this trick on legislation, Affordable health care act for example.
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Medicare hike could also hit some in middle class http://news.yahoo.com/medicare-hike-could-hit-middle-class-075045878--politics.html
"Pugach doesn't see herself as upper-income by any stretch, but President Barack Obama's budget would raise her Medicare premiums and those of other comfortably retired seniors, adding to a surcharge that already costs some 2 million beneficiaries hundreds of dollars a year each."
The savior of medicare. Please note that medicaid will be expanded by about 11 million illegals if 0bama gets his way.
Oh and if the USA goes the way of kalifornia things will be bad. Three hospitals in the PRoLA are closing in the next two years. That should help when an estimated 3.5 million illegals get to go on medicare/medical. Food stamps up, total employment down, SSDI bankrupt, SS in the red 20 years ahead of predictions (2011), all according to plan. This is getting back at the people that built this country. Program taxes that we have paid into and were promised to get some back are all going to the low info minority voter.
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trumad (34,221 posts)
If one more person calls my hard earned Social Security an Entitlement. ...
I will reach through the internet tubes and choke them until they turn blue.
It's not a God Damn entitlement, I PAID FOR IT!
Depends on how much you paid in, the interest it earned and how long you collect on it. Once the amount received passes the paid-in/interest earned, them um yeah, it's an entitlement, or Welfare for those in Loma Linda.
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Question.
Doesn't the "average" recipient of social security retirement get back all that he paid into it, in the first seven months he collects?
Something like that?
I think the sleazeball the truemud primitive grossly overestimates how much he paid into it.
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Question.
Doesn't the "average" recipient of social security retirement get back all that he paid into it, in the first seven months he collects?
Something like that?
I think the sleazeball the truemud primitive grossly overestimates how much he paid into it.
SS rates have changed over the years. Depends on how much he earned and at what rates. Remember, that your employer has to match what you pay in.
Also, the earned interest rates have fluctuated.
I think originally when it was set up, you weren't supposed to live long enough to collect it.
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SS rates have changed over the years. Depends on how much he earned and at what rates. Remember, that your employer has to match what you pay in.
Also, the earned interest rates have fluctuated.
I think originally when it was set up, you weren't supposed to live long enough to collect it.
Those of us who work and pay into it, probably won't end up living long enough to collect much of it. We will probably work ourselves into the grave. Meanwhile the leeches and moochers will live to be 100 all thanks to our tax dollars.
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SS rates have changed over the years. Depends on how much he earned and at what rates. Remember, that your employer has to match what you pay in.
Also, the earned interest rates have fluctuated.
I think originally when it was set up, you weren't supposed to live long enough to collect it.
I checked my social security statement. I've been paying into it since I was 15 years old, working as a carry-out boy at a mom-and-pop grocery store. If I were to start collecting today, it looks to me as if in less than a year, I'd've been paid back all that I put in.
I'm sure that for each person, it varies.
But again, my point being, I suspect the sleazeball truemud grossly overestimates how much he paid into it.
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trumad (34,221 posts)
If one more person calls my hard earned Social Security an Entitlement. ...
I will reach through the internet tubes and choke them until they turn blue.
It's not a God Damn entitlement, I PAID FOR IT!
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Okay. :mental:
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trumud doesn't understand SOCIALISM very well, does it?
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trumud doesn't understand SOCIALISM very well, does it?
Anyone that does understand it, wouldn't be one unless they were the one in power. :-)
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ENTITLEMENT
OK, I'm waiting for that hand to come thru my screen...... :hammer:
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Question.
Doesn't the "average" recipient of social security retirement get back all that he paid into it, in the first seven months he collects?
Something like that?
I think the sleazeball the truemud primitive grossly overestimates how much he paid into it.
It's all over the map, really. There is the most modest correlation possible between contributions and payouts.
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I checked my social security statement. I've been paying into it since I was 15 years old, working as a carry-out boy at a mom-and-pop grocery store. If I were to start collecting today, it looks to me as if in less than a year, I'd've been paid back all that I put in.
I'm sure that for each person, it varies.
But again, my point being, I suspect the sleazeball truemud grossly overestimates how much he paid into it.
Maybe if you were taking the face value of the dollars put in Frank. Supposedly the SS fund earns interest on it's "investments". Now SS has to invest in government securities, which have a historical return of about 3 to 4 percent. I'm sure SS don't get that return, I heard it is actually 2 percent somewhere, but let's just say they do. So you take the money you put in each year, and compound it by 3.5 percent. Then you get a better idea of what you would have when you retire.
I read somewhere that if SS was allowed to invest in a conservative way, we are talking about 70 percent bonds, 30 percent stocks, that the return would jump up to 5 or 6 percent. Can't have that!!!! Then where would the federal government get their money!!!
Me? SS is gravy if I get it. I ain't planning on it though.
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Hey Dumbasses, remember 2005 when George Bush suggested partial privatization of SS wherein there would be private accounts with your names on them, similar to federal employees' Thrift Savings Plans, investable in a number of ways? You shit your collective pants. Well...
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