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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on April 12, 2013, 07:34:41 PM
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nadinbrzezinski (118,404 posts)
Ok, let 's explain something here regarding good guys with guns...
Every time the issue comes up a certain few examples of a good guy with a gun stopping an incident come up. Mind you, it's always the same exact incidents. So for a second lets assume that gun bunnies are correct. A good guy with a gun managed to stop an actual incident...ok, that is what nine over how many...decades?
How many thousands of active shooting incidents have happened over the course of the same decades? Now I admit, math ain't my strong point, but nine over thousands barely registers in the statistics of this.
Hence when these same nine incidents are brought up, and only one meets the definition of an active shooter actually stopped in the act, the rest of us tend to roll our collective eyes... Why? The meme that a good guy will be able to stop a bad guy breaks down when one looks at actual...well...definitions and statistics.
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10022663502
Tell you what Nads, if a good guy saves even one life with a gun, then it is worth it.
AndyA (15,884 posts)
1. It sure seems to me that accidents--especially with small children--far outnumber the accounts
when a good guy has protected themselves or their family.
If you ran the numbers you would find that many more good guys with guns didn't have accidents.
AndyA (15,884 posts)
3. I stopped counting a long time ago.
As a victim of gun violence (I lost my Mother when I was 17 to a "good guy with a gun") it hits home very personally for me, and I remember very well what those families feel like. They will never be the same, they will never ever forget. It changes their lives FOREVER.
The right to LIFE is SUPREME over the right to bear arms.
Would you give up the right to free speech in order to protect lives?
Hell you goons actively fight for the right to end lives all for a woman's "choice" so spare me the right to life is supreme bullshit.
nadinbrzezinski (118,404 posts)
4. I know. I almost became a victim
A few times (but as a medic that was part of the job). My condolences on your loss.
One reason I call bullshit with the meme is...it is stinking, and grade A Bullshit
:mental:
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The left uses false statistics. When they talk about gun deaths and shootings they don't discount the justified shootings and deaths caused by police or "victims" that killed or shot their attacker/burglar. Police shootings alone add great numbers to the total.
OTOH, if you didn't count the shootings that occur in cities that already have strict gun control laws like Chitcago and other liberal hellholes the number would dwindle rapidly.
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Another stat, if you want to call it that, is that the bad guy already comes equipped to the scene with a gun. With Chitcago's laws, the good guy is lucky to have any good guy with a gun within ten miles as thundley pointed out.
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math ain't my strong point
Nooooooo,.....really?
The left uses false statistics
Every. Day. Every one is cherry-picked for Narrative® correctness. If not, it is warped to fit. I so hate these people. Professing superior thought processes ( :-) :-) :-) ) while spewing the most inane crap.
Think (D)Ummies. Use the brain that God gave you....yeah, he did......and realize that the crap you spew makes no sense. Honestly, you are not bright, you won't win the giveaway participation trophy and what you know is nonsense.
There.
Now, go forth and abort yourselves into oblivion so we can go about fixing this friggin' mess you are making. Your betters think that they can, somehow, indoctrinate out human behavior that you don't like. Sorry.
Didn't work for Stalin.
Didn't wok for Mao.
When the brownshirts come for you and you are wondering what is going on, just remember that those who would have protected you from this are no longer around. Those that gave, protected and ensured the freedom to act like petulant children, aren't there anymore. The unparalleled prosperity that you take for granted and hate (?????) was won. It was not stolen from anyone. I wish you the same death that you champion on the defenseless unborn. That glob of cells you so despise unless, it happens to be born black or Mexican, I guess. Then again, that doesn't seem to matter either....
You people are utter trash. Half-educated illiterates, who assume that participation guarantees some type of imparted knowledge. You're (D)Ummies, you don't know any better.
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math ain't my strong point
What do you suppose is her strong point?
You may remember the crazy bald dwarf established that a meter consisits of sixty centimeters.
That fact was uncovered as part of her report on a six-foot accumulation of hailstones during a storm in Mexico City.
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Nads the chief of propaganda at DU. :lmao:
Interactive Map Shows the Number of Times Guns Have Saved Americans
Gun control proponents cannot deny that people use guns successfully against criminals, but they tend to play down how often such events take place. The purpose of this map is to draw more attention to this aspect of the firearms policy debate.
the map is not comprehensive. Criminals will often flee the scene when they discover that their intended target has a gun. With no shots fired, no injuries, and no suspect in custody, news organizations may report nothing at all.
http://www.cato.org/guns-and-self-defense
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Once again the stupid bald dwarf is talking out of her extremely large ass.
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Once again the stupid bald dwarf is talking out of her extremely large ass.
My question is this--did Nads teach Jim Carrey how to do that, or did Jim Carrey teach Nads? :fuelfire:
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nadinbrzezinski (118,404 posts)
Ok, let 's explain something here
(http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i475/Delmar59/images-1_zps162513c1.jpeg) (http://s1095.photobucket.com/user/Delmar59/media/images-1_zps162513c1.jpeg.html)
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Their impression of how much something happens is based entirely on how much press coverage it gets, not any actual statistics. Well, I suppose stupidity and willful ignorance like that explains why we have a tool like Obama being elected, and then re-elected, President.
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math ain't my strong point
Neither is grammar,history,spelling,logic,humility and from the pictures I've seen self control and hygiene.Not sure what your strong points would be!
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Neither is grammar,history,spelling,logic,humility and from the pictures I've seen self control and hygiene.Not sure what your strong points would be!
Breakfast, lunch, dinner..... :-)
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Breakfast, lunch, dinner..... :-)
....and every type of junk food.
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I lost my Mother when I was 17 to a "good guy with a gun"
Yeah the leftists are equating law abiding Americans with gang bangers. Stupid morons. :bird:
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Breakfast, lunch, dinner..... :-)
Good point! :-)
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There is a father who is an armed guard for a private company that always open carries into the daycare my daughter attends. Every day. He comes in and hangs out at the daycare. When the older kids have free play and play video games, he plays with them, with his gun hanging on his side. No one ever complains. Maybe it's just a Nevada thing. I don't know, but it doesn't bother me. My daughter knows that guns are NOT toys. There has never been a shooting at my daughter's daycare. I have never heard any other parent complain about the father who open carries. My husband carries in there all the time, but his gun is concealed.
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Just remember DUmmies, the good guys always wear white hats.
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Fri Apr 12, 2013, 07:48 PM
nadinbrzezinski (118,455 posts)
Ok, let 's explain something here regarding good guys with guns...
Every time the issue comes up a certain few examples of a good guy with a gun stopping an incident come up. Mind you, it's always the same exact incidents. So for a second lets assume that gun bunnies are correct. A good guy with a gun managed to stop an actual incident...ok, that is what nine over how many...decades?
How many thousands of active shooting incidents have happened over the course of the same decades? Now I admit, math ain't my strong point, but nine over thousands barely registers in the statistics of this.
Hence when these same nine incidents are brought up, and only one meets the definition of an active shooter actually stopped in the act, the rest of us tend to roll our collective eyes... Why? The meme that a good guy will be able to stop a bad guy breaks down when one looks at actual...well...definitions and statistics.
http://election.democraticunderground.com/10022663502
Ok, what in the hell is she yapping about now?
Response to IfPalinisAnswerWatsQ (Reply #5)
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 08:16 PM
nadinbrzezinski (118,455 posts)
9. Given I walked those Ciudades Perdidas south of the border
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As a medic and was the target of semi auto rifle fire, you can say whatever.
By the way what does the OP has to do with the price of tea in china?
Why do you own a gun again Nads?
Response to IfPalinisAnswerWatsQ (Reply #12)
Fri Apr 12, 2013, 08:25 PM
nadinbrzezinski (118,455 posts)
14. Your points had zero to do with the OP
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But you want an answer on the war on drugs? Legalize every last illegal drug, and tax the living daylights out of them.
But you are accusing me of racism, you did not address the OP
But I will address your other OP. nobody is coming to take away your guns, nobody.
Next time you accuse me of racism, you will join the rest in the ignore list.
Cause we ain't got no worries with the legal drugs now do we?
She makes you want to slap her hard.
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Here you go Nads -- all the data you need and more on the good guys with guns: http://www.saf.org/lawreviews/kleckandgertz1.htm