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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: Freeper on April 12, 2013, 04:57:33 PM
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I haven't paid too close attention to this trial, honestly because the more I hear the sicker I get to my stomach. However it pisses me off that the media is not interested in this story in the least.
I heard on Hannity today that one of his nurses actually played with one of the children before she snipped the baby's neck. WTF is wrong with people?
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Obama supported things like this when he was an Illinois senator.
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I just read this.....sickening doesn't describe it.
http://news.yahoo.com/why-dr-kermit-gosnells-trial-major-news-story-104719415--politics.html
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I haven't paid too close attention to this trial, honestly because the more I hear the sicker I get to my stomach. However it pisses me off that the media is not interested in this story in the least.
I heard on Hannity today that one of his nurses actually played with one of the children before she snipped the baby's neck. WTF is wrong with people?
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
The MSM is basically ignoring it. Can't put abortionists in a bad light I guess. Sandy Hook was on the news for weeks and this story isn't even a blip on the media's radar.
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The MSM is basically ignoring it. Can't put abortionists in a bad light I guess. Sandy Hook was on the news for weeks and this story isn't even a blip on the media's radar.
Yes, he killed more kids with scissors than were killed in Sandy Hook with a gun.
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The MSM is basically ignoring it. Can't put abortionists in a bad light I guess. Sandy Hook was on the news for weeks and this story isn't even a blip on the media's radar.
Exactly. They cover other trials ad nauseam, but this one....crickets.
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Exactly. They cover other trials ad nauseam, but this one....crickets.
Few are going to listen to this, they have their sanity to preserve and cannot in any way way think about a family member doing this. For their sanity they have to believe none of this happend and go on with their life. To face reality would destroy everyone including the mother.
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Few are going to listen to this, they have their sanity to preserve and cannot in any way way think about a family member doing this. For their sanity they have to believe none of this happend and go on with their life. To face reality would destroy everyone including the mother.
I do believe this is the shortest post I have ever seen from Vesta.
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I do believe this is the shortest post I have ever seen from Vesta.
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And it's one of those rare ones that make sense.
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Obama supported things like this when he was an Illinois senator.
Yes he did, Why doesn't someone ask him, his opinion on Gosnell?
In case anyone forgot...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDX52pEC7_w[/youtube]
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And it's one of those rare ones that make sense.
Reminds me of the 2 old guys in the Muppet Christmas Carol after the speech.
- That was the speech?
- It was dumb!
- It was obvious!
- It was pointless!
It was short.
- I loved it!
- I loved it!
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This gets sicker every time I see an update. Not only was this monster involved, but other local doctors didn't report his ass when they treated the women that he screwed up. :banghead:
Doctors in Philadelphia are attempting to defend why they apparently failed to report the numerous botched abortions and other medical problems that took place at the clinic run by abortion practitioner Kermit Gosnell.
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/04/11/doctors-failed-to-report-kermit-gosnells-botched-abortions/
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As far as the media coverage goes , don't Treblinka or you'll miss it .
Reserved media seating at the trial , empty .
(http://moonbattery.com/Gosnell-media-seating-seating.jpg)
If they do come out , it will be swinging with a full court press attempt to spin this into someone else's fault . That there is not enough government oversight , control , or spending is already being floated around . How you spin a guy that saves baby feet in a jar is beyond me , but they pulled off Benghazi and F&F without a hitch . My money is on "Bury it and it will go away . "
Wikipedia is considering deleting the Gosnell entry since it is just a local murder story . How do they know that ? It hasn't made the national news .
http://twitchy.com/2013/04/12/gosnell-wikipedia-entry-considered-for-deletion-a-local-multiple-murder-story-nothing-more/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter
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As far as the media coverage goes , don't Treblinka or you'll miss it .
Reserved media seating at the trial , empty .
(http://moonbattery.com/Gosnell-media-seating-seating.jpg)
If they do come out , it will be swinging with a full court press attempt to spin this into someone else's fault . That there is not enough government oversight , control , or spending is already being floated around . How you spin a guy that saves baby feet in a jar is beyond me , but they pulled off Benghazi and F&F without a hitch . My money is on "Bury it and it will go away . "
Wikipedia is considering deleting the Gosnell entry since it is just a local murder story . How do they know that ? It hasn't made the national news .
http://twitchy.com/2013/04/12/gosnell-wikipedia-entry-considered-for-deletion-a-local-multiple-murder-story-nothing-more/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter
We tremble as we look back on past enemies horrid actions, yet think nothing as we repeat them.
As far as the media coverage goes , don't Treblinka or you'll miss it .
As we wonder how humans can do do do horrid things, we ourselves do so under another name.
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Full Title:Gosnell Trial Witness: Baby Abortion Survivor Was 'Swimming' in Toilet 'Trying to Get Out'
It is true .. Grown Men Do Cry!
April 18, 2013
By Elizabeth Harrington
(CNSNews.com) – On the last day of testimony before the prosecution rests in the murder trial of abortionist Kermit Gosnell, a former worker at Gosnell's clinic testified that she saw one late-term baby who survived an abortion "swimming" in a toilet and "trying to get out."
Kareema Cross, a “medical assistant†who worked at Gosnell’s Women’s Medical Society clinic for four-and-a-half years, testified in a Philadelphia court today, telling of the horrors of babies who survived abortions only to have their necks snipped with scissors.
“Did you ever see those babies move?†asked Prosecutor Joanne Pescatore.
“Yes, once in the toilet,†said Cross.
The baby “was like swimming,†she said. “Basically, trying to get out.â€
Adrienne Moton, an employee at the clinic, then took the baby and snipped the back of its neck while its mother was still in the room.
Cross told the jury that when Shayquana Abrams came into the clinic in July 2008 she was pregnant, “and she was big.â€
“That was the largest baby I ever saw,†Cross said.
When the baby was born alive, Abrams was sleeping. Cross said Dr. Gosnell took the baby boy, which she described as 12 to 18 inches long, and put him inside a plastic container the size of a shoebox.
“The baby was still breathing,†she said. “He didn’t cut the neck right there.â€
The baby was too big for the plastic container, with his arms and legs hanging over the sides.
“The Doctor cut the back of the baby’s neck but didn’t do suction—normally Dr. Gosnell would do suction … to suck the brains out,†Cross said.
“I called people over to come see it [the baby] and we took pictures,†she said.
The baby boy had curled himself into the fetal position and laid on his side in the box. An image of the baby taken by Cross was shown to the court, showing him laying lifeless on his side. (the photo of the infant, Baby A, is included in the Grand Jury Report and is posted in this article.)
“It was supposed to go upstairs in the freezer, but it was still there the next day because the janitor complained,†Cross added.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/gosnell-trial-witness-baby-abortion-survivor-was-swimming-toilet-trying-get-out
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To anyone who supports abortion, including you cowards who say you personally hate abortion, but it's none of your business, go **** yourselves.
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I don't think I'd want to be going where Gosnell's going in a few years. Hope he brings lots & lots of SPF 50 sunblock, because I think it's going to be hot.
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Dear God! What a choice!!!
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Dear God! What a choice!!!
This is not abortion of growing tissue, this is murder by contract between the mother and a doctor.
I cannot understand why the Mothers who pay to have their children killed are not also charged. Doctors do not grab pregnant woman off the street and force them to abort.
Doctors are humane and will do some strange things to make a living. Some will with no question give children hormone blocking drugs when the parents of a child not happy and desire to change sex.
I wonder who was the doctor that did the Lobotomy on the Kennedy sister ????
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Planned Parenthood Knew of Kermit Gosnell’s Abortion Horrors
Planned Parenthood Southeast Pennsylvania president and CEO Dayle Steinberg admitted this week at a fundraiser that the abortion business knew of the problems at Gosnell’s Philadelphia abortion facility.
Apparently Planned Parenthood did not report it to the state health department or other state or local officials who could have done something about it. Instead, it appears the abortion giant left it up to women Gosnell injured or traumatized to make public officials aware of his House of Horrors.
“We would always encourage them to report it to the Department of Health,” Steinberg said of women who reported problems at Gosnell’s abortion clinic to Planned Parenthood staff.
LifeNews (http://www.lifenews.com/2013/04/21/planned-parenthood-knew-of-kermit-gosnells-abortion-horrors/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+lifenews%2Fnewsfeed+%28LifeNews.com%29)
Could Planned Parenthood be charged for failing to report Gosnell?
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Conspiracy to conceal multiple homicides? Works for me.
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Conspiracy to conceal multiple homicides? Works for me.
Which would open them up to RICO and shut the whole thing down.
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Which would open them up to RICO and shut the whole thing down.
Unfortunately things have a way of snowballing when a few rotten apples are found in any profession.
The profession turns inward to protect the ill doer to keep from being raked over the coals themselves.
Even a used car sales man who has committed a few sneaky tricks. His competer is an out and out thief and even endangers his customers. So To complain against the competer is to open up years old dealings somewhat the same. [ only those without sin may cast the first stone].
Ever see what happens to a whistle blower when their conscious gets too much. They are destroyed, the people that he blows the whistle on gets a slap on the wrist and forgiven.
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Gosnell Judge Issues Surprising Reversal, Reinstates Murder Charge
Tuesday’s shocking courtroom drama during the Dr. Kermit Gosnell case sparked outrage and confusion among some Americans after a number of charges against the abortion doctor were dismissed. But on Wednesday, the ruling changed slightly.
During the proceedings, Judge Jeffrey Minehart threw out three counts of murder and five counts of corpse abuse, as TheBlaze previously reported. On Wednesday, however, the justice had a change of heart, reinstating one of the murder charges that he had tossed just 24 hours before.
Citing an error in judgement, Minehart recanted axing the murder charge for “Baby C,†the child who was purportedly alive for 20 minutes before its spine was cut. Some of Gosnell’s own staff members have reported seeing the baby breathe and move before being killed, LifeNews.com reports.
The Blaze (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/24/gosnell-judge-issues-surprising-reversal-reinstates-murder-charge-over-baby-allegedly-breathing-20-minutes-after-birth/)
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I haven't followed closely because I get ill thinking of those poor babies. A former worker at Gosnell's clinic testified that she saw one late-term baby who survived an abortion "swimming" in a toilet and "trying to get out."
I just keep thinking how some of these babies had such a will to live that they survived an abortion only to have their neck snipped.This whole thing makes me feel ill and Gosnell cannot burn in hell soon enough.
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I've been following it, but not commenting much, as I just don't know what to say about this horror. I'm hoping that it quietly changes some minds.
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I have not watched anything about this doctor until I came across this;
(CNSNews.com) – The administration (1995-2001) of Pennsylvania’s Republican Gov. Tom Ridge stopped annual inspections of abortion clinics, according to the grand jury report on Dr. Kermit Gosnell, who is currently on trial in Philadelphia charged with the first-degree murder of seven born babies.
http://1389blog.com/2013/04/30/pro-abort-gosnell-enabling-pennsylvania-gov-tom-ridge-was-also-a-pr-shill-for-albania/
So a RINO was responsible for abortion clinics in PA. NOT being monitored.
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I have not watched anything about this doctor until I came across this;
So a RINO was responsible for abortion clinics in PA. NOT being monitored.
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Follow the money my Dear, there would be no abortion clinics were it not for someone making money.
What person in their right mind would make abortion legal and accepted by society were it not for money.
Who are those against the pill or next day pills to prevent a pregnancy, only those that make money on the results of no pills and and the resultant pregnancy's.
We are being told that the abortion clinics are just a Black problem in the inner city's, BS.
This big abstinence thing is great for woman and girls who never leave their home, never are raped or abused by a family member in the home.
For some reason the abstinence thing only goes for the females, I see no such thing in the world of the Males.
Crap this whole thing makes me question the sanity of others. Those woman that are pregnant are in a mess, they are young and scared. Be they pregnant from boyfriend, by rape of a stranger or by their step father or uncle Joe, they try to deny they are pregnant until it is too late.
Nasty piece of business here, the girls soon cannot deny they are are pregnant and no longer lie to themselves.
So they need and want an end to this nightmare, and they end up in the hands of a monster and a group of monsters that work for him.
Someone pays for an abortion, the girls go in at 5-6 or more months pregnancy and even though the baby is alive and kicking in their belly's moving about, the girls still do not believe this is a human growing, and fighting for life.
The Monsters will not show the girl a sonogram of the what she is hatching, no information on how she is about to become a mother. The monsters game is to help her to rid herself of a problem that may effect her future life. The monsters and their employees are there for HER, to kill her child born dead or alive.
We get upset with a Doctor that preforms abortions or after birth deaths, but one has to remember the Doctor could not do this by himself, he needs staff that is willing to snip the living baby's and work every day watching and helping the doctor kill living human lives. It is not just the Doctor, it is the people he hires willing to kill these baby's.
We live in a world of monsters, be it they themselves or the the staff he finds willing to carry out his orders.
Actually I put the blame on the staff that were willing to help kill new Born's for a pay check, the monster could not have operated with out them.
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Vesta is right ... abortion is a very profitable business, and they support the politicians that turn a blind eye. It's all about money. Those that think God will not judge a nation whose government supports the slaughter of innocents really need to wake up.
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Vesta is right ... abortion is a very profitable business, and they support the politicians that turn a blind eye. It's all about money. Those that think God will not judge a nation whose government supports the slaughter of innocents really need to wake up.
My generation was raised to look back at the last generation of civilians in Germany and how they said not a word about children taken to death camps. OH We didn't know they said, yet they saw every day whole family's taken from their homes and stuffed into cattle cars for transport. Once taken away the good people would raid and loot their neighbors homes and steal everything including the door knobs.
Mom had a friend that came here as a war bride, she lived about 15-20 miles from a camp and the town turned out to watch as the starving people would be marched down the road from the train station to the camps. If anyone in town man woman or child felt sorry for them and threw them a crust of bread they were shot on sight. That night the area down wind of the camp began to put out this Lord awful smell, Everyone knew but for the sake of their sanity and their own lives had to ignore it.
Americans were not wusses in those days, the town she lived in and some other towns after liberation were forced to empty their towns and forced them by the thousands to march to the camps and look at the bodies and the crematoriums. She a teenager at the time told Mom the army had to set up a large number of first aid tents to treat those that had heart attacks, became hysterical or fainted . When she and her family were next in line for a guided tour she says they were ankle deep in vomit from those that went before them.
I wonder how an American Jury would react to being bussed to one of these abortion clinics to see baby's left to die and tiny feet in a jar. Baby corpses thrown into freezers and bloody instruments used to kill the baby's left uncleaned out in the open. History would repeat as the jury would be up to their ankles in vomit, piss and shit, their own.
Today I wonder how to explain to my great grand children how my and their parens generation could ignore the murder of baby's being legal ??? The Dreaded question of why I did not do anything to change the law or help stop this carnage in nothing but slaughter houses that the Government inspectors would not allow the conditions in a Chicago slaughter barn for cattle.
Me, I equate these abortion clinics with the Final Solution spawn by my grand parents generation and how we can still 70 years later look with horror at what those in their generation did as we drive past abortion clinics every day and give no thought to what is going on within the place.
I believe it is Thursdays that the next town woman's health center has a kill day, I have seen just a few Evil Fanatics with placards standing outside in the heat of summer and the ice and cold of winter. I have also noticed a town police car in the area protecting the clients from harassment and taking pictures of the licence plates of those who protest.
One of these days I will join the protesters, as I have never in my life protested against any thing legal, never joined any protest Org. I am not sure how to go about this. Very difficult at my age to protest any law, but as this case shows better late then never.