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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on March 16, 2013, 12:14:54 PM
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Logical (7,120 posts)
Wow, this whole debate of sexism topics, like door holding, makes me wonder if I was raised wrong...
I have offered to help women carry in large items from their car at work.
I have offered to change a flat tire for women on the side of the road.
I have opened doors for women.
I will admit I usually do not always make the same offer to men in the same situation.
I do not think women are not capable of doing the above things. But....
For the tire, I know many women have never changed a tire (right or wrong), so I offer to help. It does not mean I think that are weak and worthless. I assume most men have changed a tire. Does that make me a sexist?
For the big box at work, most women are also carrying a purse. And many women are smaller than I am and if I can help with the box since my hands are empty then I offer to help. I am not thinking women are too weak to carry the box. Just offering if it will help them.
For the door, I was always raised to do it. I have done it since I was a kid. Just habit. No motive except just being polite.
If someone did any of the above things for my two teenage daughters I would not think they were being treated sexist. And neither do my daughters.
Very confusing to me. I hate that what I think is being polite would come across to women as sexist.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022517981
No sign of Red drag Queen yet or Seabeyond, but I expect a shitstorm to brew.
quinnox (15,135 posts)
1. you aren't doing anything wrong
Ignore the folks who try to push wacked-out and extreme theories around this, otherwise you may as well start to give Scientology teachings credence.
Another sexist pig.
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Here we go finally someone steps in to school the sexist pigs.
LittleBlue (2,227 posts)
5. Should women be given especially courteous treatment by men?
Beyond the doors, that's what the debate centers on. DU feminists say it isn't about the door. That's party right, because it has to do with special treatment of women in general by men. They're wrong to discount the door example completely, because it's the most obvious example one sees in everyday life.
Personally, I do the chivalry thing. Doors, chairs, heavy loads, etc. Sexist? I don't know. My mom told me to do it. Over the years, these courtesies have become habit. It makes me feel good, and women don't seem to mind it, so it's a win-win from my perspective. If they do one day come to hate it, I hope one day they will tell me rather than smiling or thanking me, then I'll stop. Until then, I'll keep doing it. My girlfriend, who is in her 20s, seems to like it too, so I don't feel old fashioned doing it.
Considering they and all DUmmies want special rights for everything why does this special treatment bother them?
Could it be because it is mostly conservative men who treat women with respect? They hate conservatives that much that they turn this into an issue to bash us on?
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LittleBlue (2,227 posts)
5. Should women be given especially courteous treatment by men?
The horror... the horror. :runaway:
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I missed this gem.
jehop61 (259 posts)
3. I'm beginning to think
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we have a troll amongst us trying to stir up dissention in the ranks. This whole thing is ridiculous and silly. Feminists have many more concerns. Hope you guys out there are getting bored with your little prank. I'm, of course, referring to the trolls who started this phony sexism debate.
Why is it when some DUmmy acts like a DUmmy other DUmmies accuse that DUmmy of being a troll?
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Why is it when some DUmmy acts like a DUmmy other DUmmies accuse that DUmmy of being a troll?
Because there are no mirrors in Wonderland.
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Because there are no mirrors in Wonderland.
These people truly never actually think about anything, they just go along with the latest trend and parrot what they have heard.
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jehop61 (259 posts)
3. I'm beginning to think
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we have a troll amongst us trying to stir up dissention in the ranks. This whole thing is ridiculous and silly. Feminists have many more concerns. Hope you guys out there are getting bored with your little prank. I'm, of course, referring to the trolls who started this phony sexism debate.
Hmmmmm, a troll trying to get the hive worked up about a possible troll?
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Hmmmmm, a troll trying to get the hive worked up about a possible troll?
There are no trolls at DU the MIRT team is way too smart to be fooled. :-)
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No trolling necessary. You dingbats come up with this crap on your own just fine.
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It was mentioned at CPAC that while feminazis all hate the GOP, Ted Kennedy is the only guy in the War on Women with a confirmed kill.
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These are the same folks that call conservatives racists and bigots to shut them up.
How does it feel to be sucking off the shotgun barrel of a fellow traveler that considers herself even more entitled then you?
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seabeyond (84,166 posts)
81. a man asked for a definition of benevolent sexism. i gave a definition. and you interpret that as
creating the outrage? who the **** really has created this outrage?
OMG.... the same usual suspects do NOT want us men to be nice. those mean ole feminists.
not ONE feminist is outraged. NOT one feminist does not hold doors open, or say thank you when a door is held open. we have ALL stated this.
and we are the problem?
Old angry witch mad her way to the thread.
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They keep forgetting about pulling chairs out for ladies as well.
Maybe next time I'll ask if a woman is a feminist. If she is I'll pull it out a little too much for them so they fall and just tell them its for me and they should get their own.
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Logical (7,120 posts)
Wow, this whole debate of sexism topics, like door holding, makes me wonder if I was raised wrong...
I have offered to help women carry in large items from their car at work.
I have offered to change a flat tire for women on the side of the road.
I have opened doors for women.
I will admit I usually do not always make the same offer to men in the same situation.
I do not think women are not capable of doing the above things. But....
For the tire, I know many women have never changed a tire (right or wrong), so I offer to help. It does not mean I think that are weak and worthless. I assume most men have changed a tire. Does that make me a sexist?
For the big box at work, most women are also carrying a purse. And many women are smaller than I am and if I can help with the box since my hands are empty then I offer to help. I am not thinking women are too weak to carry the box. Just offering if it will help them.
For the door, I was always raised to do it. I have done it since I was a kid. Just habit. No motive except just being polite.
If someone did any of the above things for my two teenage daughters I would not think they were being treated sexist. And neither do my daughters.
Very confusing to me. I hate that what I think is being polite would come across to women as sexist.
Only question I got dummie is this: You were obviously raised right so why are you a dummie?