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Title: Chavez wasted money on health care when he could have built skyscrapers
Post by: Freeper on March 09, 2013, 03:20:24 PM
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Enrique (22,024 posts)

Chavez wasted money on health care when he could have built skyscrapers


 
just mentioned on Democracy Now.

http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/03/06/ap-chavez-wasted-his-money-on-healthcare-when-he-could-have-built-gigantic-skyscrapers/

One of the more bizarre takes on Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez's death comes from Associated Press business reporter Pamela Sampson (3/5/13):

Chavez invested Venezuela's oil wealth into social programs including state-run food markets, cash benefits for poor families, free health clinics and education programs. But those gains were meager compared with the spectacular construction projects that oil riches spurred in glittering Middle Eastern cities, including the world's tallest building in Dubai and plans for branches of the Louvre and Guggenheim museums in Abu Dhabi.


That's right: Chavez squandered his nation's oil money on healthcare, education and nutrition when he could have been building the world's tallest building or his own branch of the Louvre. What kind of monster has priorities like that?

In case you're curious about what kind of results this kooky agenda had, here's a chart (NACLA, 10/8/12) based on World Bank poverty stats–showing the proportion of Venezuelans living on less than $2 a day falling from 35 percent to 13 percent over three years. (For comparison purposes, there's a similar stat for Brazil, which made substantial but less dramatic progress against poverty over the same time period.)

Of course, during this time, the number of Venezuelans living in the world's tallest building went from 0 percent to 0 percent, while the number of copies of the Mona Lisa remained flat, at none. So you have to say that Chavez's presidency was overall pretty disappointing–at least by AP's standards.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022477608

Yeah the AP is known for their right wing slant.  :whatever:

Now the reason I brought this thread over here.
A lousy freeper troll shows up and tries to educate the moonbats about Chavez and what the pardise on earth is really like.

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Perseus (5 posts)
55. Where do you people get your information from?

Has anyone on this blog ever been in Venezuela?

Hospitals are so underfunded there that its hard to get a band-aid, people die in corridors waiting for a physician to treat them. Many Cuban "Doctors" were taken to Venezuela and medicine in Cuba is not as good as what Michael Moore made you believe. They misdiagnosed Chavez cancer and that is why he never got any better, a Venezuelan Dr. diagnosed him correctly but because Chavez trusted more the Cubans than his own people, he decided to get treatment in Cuba. Venezuela is blessed with some of the best minds in the medical field, a proof of that is that there are many hospitals in the USA where Venezuelans are the head of different departments. I don't know if he is still there but the head of the cardiology department at the Mass General Hospital was from Venezuela during the 1980s.

It is truly amazing how fanatic the people at DU are, I have family and friends who live there, all the praises and support for Chavez just shows the ignorance that prevails at DU in regards to Chavez and Venezuela.

All of you become frustrated when trying to discuss issues with republicans because, not only that they don't listen, but most of their answers are nothing but insults and wisecracks. Sorry to tell you but, from what I have read here and the answers I got to a previous blog of mine, you are no better. Needless to say, it was a very frustrating exchange.

I was in Venezuela in 1998 during the presidential campaign, and what I heard from Chavez was fantastic, I told my family that if I could vote there I would vote for him, but the reality of his years as president is very different. I also won't deny that, on paper, he had very good ideas, but the people he surrounded himself with and the advice he received from Castro deviated him from his original goals. He has created division between classes, Venezuela was never knows for kidnappings, it is now rampant, the killings, the corruption from government officials.

I am sure that most of you cringe about Scalia and Roberts here in the USA, but they are nothing compared to the supreme court in Venezuela, and that is saying a lot.

Education is meant to indoctrinate children to the "Socialist" agenda, and teach Cuban philosophy. Chavez gave more to Cuba than to the Venezuelan people, the poor are not better off, some of them do love him out of ignorance, but not because their life is better off today.

Once again, I dare any of you Chavez supporters to visit Venezuela and see for yourselves, and stop drinking the cool-aid that people like Amy Goodman and the "Revolution will not be televised" try to sell.

Also, don't bother to answer this entry because I will not read the wisecracks that i am sure will be posted against my entry.

Educate yourselves, and this will be a better World.

Sounds a lot like what is going on here, the poor are not better off but they love 0bama out of ignorance.

The only responses so far,

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Enrique (22,024 posts)
56. Amy Goodman is a good source

Last edited Sat Mar 9, 2013, 11:06 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

she doesn't sell kool-aid, as you put it. She gives information, including criticisms of Chavez.

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Catherina (27,707 posts)
58. Pure comedy gold.

Love always,

a Chavez supporter who spent much time in Venezuela

Yeah that was a real knee slapper, sadly the low information voters in Venezuela have to live under these conditions.

Title: Re: Chavez wasted money on health care when he could have built skyscrapers
Post by: Delmar on March 10, 2013, 08:46:00 AM
The DUmmies don't care what Chavez did with the money.  What made him a great man in their eyes was his gleeful confiscation of private property.

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Acting like Robert Mugabe on cocaine, Venezuela's dictator went on a shopping spree over the weekend, confiscating one farm and industry after another.

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One taking stood out, however — a 370-acre ranch in Yaracuy state that grows oranges and coffee and raises cattle with 38 shareholding farm workers. The scenic property on an otherwise desolate stretch of highway is owned by Diego Arria, Venezuela's former president of the U.N. Security Council. It's been in his family since 1852.
Arria had spoken out against Chavez, so Chavez got personal. "If he wants to farm now, he will have to topple Chavez, because this now belongs to the revolution," El Presidente pronounced.


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Title: Re: Chavez wasted money on health care when he could have built skyscrapers
Post by: Freeper on March 10, 2013, 09:05:04 AM
The DUmmies don't care what Chavez did with the money.  What made him a great man in their eyes was his gleeful confiscation of private property.
 


All the DUmmies sing, Simply irresistible. He's so fine, there's no tellin' where the money went
Simply irresistible. He's all mine, there's no other way to go.

Title: Re: Chavez wasted money on health care when he could have built skyscrapers
Post by: jukin on March 10, 2013, 11:16:15 AM
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what I heard from Chavez was fantastic, I told my family that if I could vote there I would vote for him, but the reality of his years as president is very different.

Remind anybody of a certain big eared narcissist in our country. Sadly the same policies will produce the same results, misery and death. 
Title: Re: Chavez wasted money on health care when he could have built skyscrapers
Post by: Undies on March 10, 2013, 11:42:57 AM
The pre-corpse Chavez wasted a bunch of money on health care:  His own.  He flew to Cuba in search of better medical minds than he could find in his country.  What a joke.

The real justice is that Hugo REALLY really R-E-A-L-L-Y wanted to come to the USA to save his sorry ass...but, alas, that bridge was burned behind him.  
Title: Re: Chavez wasted money on health care when he could have built skyscrapers
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 10, 2013, 12:21:30 PM
The pre-corpse Chavez wasted a bunch of money on health care:  His own.  He flew to Cuba in search of better medical minds than he could find in his country.  What a joke.

The real justice is that Hugo REALLY really R-E-A-L-L-Y wanted to come to the USA to save his sorry ass...but, alas, that bridge was burned behind him.  
He went to Cuba because it was the only place on earth that wanted him to live.

In VZ, he would have received a Michael Jackson dose of anesthesia.
Title: Re: Chavez wasted money on health care when he could have built skyscrapers
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on March 11, 2013, 12:50:59 AM
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Catherina (27,707 posts)
58. Pure comedy gold.

Love always,

a Chavez supporter who spent much time in Venezuela

I'm betting not.

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what I heard from Chavez was fantastic, I told my family that if I could vote there I would vote for him, but the reality of his years as president is very different.

Every. Time.

Funny this guy lambasting the (D)Ullards for drinking the Kool-Aid when, he seems to be unable to pass up the jug him/her/itself.
Title: Re: Chavez wasted money on health care when he could have built skyscrapers
Post by: Wineslob on March 11, 2013, 12:32:03 PM
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just mentioned on Democracy Now.




Nuff said.

 :whatever:
Title: Re: Chavez wasted money on health care when he could have built skyscrapers
Post by: Karin on March 11, 2013, 01:29:59 PM
Look at this loon:

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johnlucas (796 posts)
48. If I was this author's father I would have disowned her on the spot for that foolishness

Chavez invested Venezuela's oil wealth into social programs including state-run food markets, cash benefits for poor families, free health clinics and education programs. But those gains were meager compared with the spectacular construction projects that oil riches spurred in glittering Middle Eastern cities, including the world's tallest building in Dubai and plans for branches of the Louvre and Guggenheim museums in Abu Dhabi.


I would be ashamed that my daughter would write such a sick callous statement.
I would have to admit my failings as a parent, as a father.
Her ass would be disowned on the SPOT, you hear me.

Understand folks. Media is a the key to change.
Media shapes the mind & if more media outlets broadcast this kind of message over the equitable kind, then this is the kind of society we're gonna have.
We have to drown out voices like Pamela Sampson's.
John Lucas

Perseus' post still stands, BTW. 


Did you know polling shows only 6% of Americans have a positive view of Chavez?  (Ras).  I think it would be great if all the democrats got in bed real tight with old Ugo. 
Title: Re: Chavez wasted money on health care when he could have built skyscrapers
Post by: Maxiest on March 11, 2013, 07:43:34 PM
Yeah, 20% inflation and 13.1% unemployment are great.
Title: Re: Chavez wasted money on health care when he could have built skyscrapers
Post by: thundley4 on March 11, 2013, 07:48:52 PM
Yeah, 20% inflation and 13.1% unemployment are great.

Those sound like the real numbers for the US if they included energy and food costs for inflation and counted all the people that have quit looking for work and ran out of benefits.
Title: Re: Chavez wasted money on health care when he could have built skyscrapers
Post by: Maxiest on March 11, 2013, 08:04:21 PM
Those sound like the real numbers for the US if they included energy and food costs for inflation and counted all the people that have quit looking for work and ran out of benefits.

Yeah, I got those from an article and Wikipedia on Venezuela.  Problem is those are estimated as they won't release those numbers to the world.   Inflation can be predicted from the outside looking in pretty accurately but unemployment can't.  I would imagine it's a lot higher than 13.1%.