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Title: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: franksolich on March 02, 2013, 04:19:02 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/115722518

Oh my.

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MiddleFingerMom (20,951 posts)    Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:55 PM

Can people make recs on blender vs food processor for me if I'm only going...

... to have one? It will be VERY inexpensive. I don't bake, if that helps. I also prefer chopping by hand when I cook.

Not necessarily brand, but convenience/practicality/necessity of either/or.

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sinkingfeeling (27,203 posts)    Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:57 PM

1. If you like to chop by hand, then go with a blender to make things like soups, smoothies, and crushed ice. You could also look at getting both by buying used.

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NRaleighLiberal (27,604 posts)    Tue Feb 26, 2013, 03:01 PM

2. our food processor gets used far more than our blender....

although our Ninja blender is our summer smoothie maker, that's about all it gets used for.
 
For making soups, we've gone to an inexpensive immersion blender.

Food processor gets used to make carrot salad, chop nuts, make pesto, make peanut butter, etc. We have a small cuisinart chopper type of blender that gets used quite often, esp. when making quantities of ginger or garlic for soups and all.
 
I find hand chopping really therapeutic, so we don't use any electric utensil nearly as often as we could.

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Major Nikon (8,794 posts)    Tue Feb 26, 2013, 03:18 PM

3. If your interest is cooking and you want only one, get a food processor

A blender is really a drink processor. While there's certainly a lot of things you can do with a nice blender that involve cooking, the best use they get is for making drinks.
 
The one I have is the Cuisinart DLC-8S. You can pick them up used on flea-bay for about $60-70. They are built to last. The motor is strong. This is important. I don't recommend cheap ones.
 
Do you need a food processor? No. You can do pretty much everything they do by hand. **** that. I use a machine when I can. Work smarter, not harder. That's what I always say. I use mine for chopping and slicing vegetables, grating potatoes and cheese, putting a rough grind on meat, mixing batters, making dips and pesto. You can knead bread with them quite well although I use my stand mixer for that. I have a nice collection of knives and I do the smaller and more critical slicing with my knives, but the big jobs go to the food processor. If you are cooking just for yourself, it's of less value. You may not want to bother with it unless you are cooking most of your meals and want to automate some of the work. It may not be a good idea to buy one thinking you'll figure out a use for it.

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MiddleFingerMom (20,951 posts)    Tue Feb 26, 2013, 03:23 PM

4. I plan mostly on using it for pureeing for cream soups and such, although...

... I also want to chop cooked Italian sausage relatively finely for a chili base (instead of ground beef). I've always used a blender successfully for that in the past.

I've never had much luck with immersion blenders for pureeing soups.

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Major Nikon (8,794 posts)    Tue Feb 26, 2013, 03:32 PM

6. Immersion blender is the only way I puree soups

Some immersion blenders suck rather badly, but you don't have to spend a lot to get a decent one. I've had mine for at least 20 years and it's still going strong.
 
When I make chili con carne, I use my food processor to grind the meat. I like a very rough chop as opposed to hamburger. I use the food processor to just kind of break everything up into long stringy chunks of various sizes. When stewed, the connective tissue dissolves and the meat unstrings itself. You're left with big and small chunks of meat which is what I prefer.

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MiddleFingerMom (20,951 posts)    Tue Feb 26, 2013, 03:56 PM

7. I call my chili "MFM's All-Flesh Chili".

I use the ground Italian sausage as a base and add whatever meat leftovers that are on hand in the fridge (chicken, pork, beef) -- diced about 1/2"-3/4".

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Viva_La_Revolution (26,893 posts)    Tue Feb 26, 2013, 03:23 PM

5. $15 immersion blender is all I ever use, blendwise

it's awesome for soups and jams and sauces.

I have a food processor, but I never use it. I prefer a few good knives, and my mixer, and hand kneading. <-- that's getting harder as I get older though I'll upgrade to a fancy new mixer when I can't anymore.

And then Ugly, she with the face like Hindenburg's, rolls in:

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Warpy (67,350 posts)    Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:40 PM

10. My one concession to age and rheumatoid arthritis was finally getting the bottom of the line Kitchen Aid mixer from Wally's. I have never regretted the purchase, it's one of those things you never knew you needed until you got it. Bread still took a little hand work at the end, but I could manage a minute or two much better than the full 10 minutes it takes to turn soggy goo into an elastic bread dough.

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Viva_La_Revolution (26,893 posts)    Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:18 PM

11. I've got the old 'rocket' chrome kitchenaid from the 60's

runs like a champ, but whole wheat dough stresses it, and no dough hooks so I start it with the machine, and add the last by hand.

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GoCubsGo (12,356 posts)    Tue Feb 26, 2013, 04:10 PM

8. It all depends on how you are going to use it.

I was given an immersion blender, which I use to puree soups and make smoothies. One can get them really cheap. I rarely use the blender any more. I use my food processor a lot more, as it's far more versatile. I make a lot of pesto (I am hooked on kale pesto right now), and I could never chop things that finely by hand. I use it for a lot of other things, too. I made some banana-Nutella "ice cream"this weekend, which is just frozen banana slices and Nutella pureed in the food processor. I have seen people on cooking shows use them to mix things like pizza dough and cake mixes, too. Food processors also have a grating-slicing wheel, which makes it a lot easier to shred cheese and v*****s.

<<<wonders why kale is now such a hot item mentioned in the cooking and baking forum now; it went for years and years without being mentioned at all.

And now Ugly again:

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Warpy (67,350 posts)    Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:38 PM

9. I find the blender will do most of what I want it to and a good stick blender is even better. You can chop and puree things in a plastic baggie with a stick blender and save yourself another dish to wash and do smoothies right in the glass. The main advantage of a stick blender over a standing blender is that you aren't left transferring hot liquids back and forth when you need to puree a soup. I still use the standing blender for things like pureed tomatillos and hot chiles for the local cuisine, force of habit.
 
If you decide on the traditional blender with a jar, less is usually more. Go for the one with the simple control (high, low, pulse) over the one with 20 buttons that all basically do the same thing. Those buttons are a PIA to clean.
 
Nothing beats a food processor when it comes to making bread crumbs or cutting fat into flour for pastry, but those can be accomplished by other means. I actually use the blender more often.

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cbayer (118,315 posts)    Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:24 PM

12. I don't have either a big blender or a food processor, but I love my stick blender.

I use it for soups, sauces, smoothies, gravy, salad dressing and just about anything else one would use a regular blender for.
 
It's compact, easy to clean and requires very little electricity.

Like you, I like chopping by hand and I really love my knives.

^^^now, that sounds ominous, reminiscent of the hippywife primitive Mrs. Alfred Packer's hippyhubby Wild Bill, and his collection of cadaver carvers, gotten from a surplus-property auction at the county coroner's.

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guardian (2,061 posts)    Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:18 PM

13. FYI

buying factory refurbished off Ebay can save quite a bit of money. You might be able to step up to a brand/features and spend the same amount of money.

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noamnety (18,292 posts)    Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:52 PM

14. Another stick blender vote.

I use that almost daily.

Blender - almost never, except an occasional smoothie in a mason jar, which fits on my blender. If you go for a blender, check that a standard mason jar fits on it - very handy feature to blend straight in the jar.
 
Food processor - use it a few times a month, mainly for cole slaw, occasionally for grinding meat or making cheesecake filling kinds of things.

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LancetChick (146 posts)    Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:54 AM

15. I have all of the whizzing appliances...

A good blender, small and large food processors, and an immersion blender. My blender is the least used of all. It's the bomb for milkshakes and smoothies, and could be used for so much more (I've used it for more), but there are only two small parts that can be put in the dishwasher, and everything else has to be hand washed, so it only gets used in situations where it shines. Given the choice between either a blender or a food processor, I'd choose the food processor hands down. You can put the whole damn thing in the dishwasher, which is important to me. If I had a personal maid who cleaned everything for me, I'd still go with the food processor.
 
My large food processor and immersion blender are hands down my most used kitchen motor tools, with the small food processor coming in a close second, and the blender moseying along in last place.
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: Tucker on March 02, 2013, 05:03:28 PM
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Warpy (67,350 posts)    Tue Feb 26, 2013, 05:40 PM

10. My one concession to age and rheumatoid arthritis was finally getting the bottom of the line Kitchen Aid mixer from Wally's.

I wonder if this is code speak for Wally's World, AKA Walmart?
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: BattleHymn on March 02, 2013, 08:24:38 PM
You must have been really bored to look into a thread MFM started.  I'm surprised the OP actually contains words. 
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: franksolich on March 02, 2013, 08:26:44 PM
You must have been really bored to look into a thread MFM started.  I'm surprised the OP actually contains words. 

Notice however I denied the squalid drama queen any mention in the headline.
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: BattleHymn on March 02, 2013, 08:29:44 PM
Notice however I denied the squalid drama queen any mention in the headline.


Yeah, I noticed that.  It's a pity he'll never read this thread, or probably any thread, without his name emblazoned in the title.   :whistling:
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 02, 2013, 09:34:36 PM
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Food processor gets used to ... make peanut butter, etc.


Even for a DUmpmonkey, that takes the cake.
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: BattleHymn on March 02, 2013, 09:43:23 PM


Even for a DUmpmonkey, that takes the cake.

I just bought an 18 ounce can of peanut butter at the grocery store today.  It was $1.28. 

How in the hell could you possibly make it for less?
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: RobJohnson on March 03, 2013, 12:14:57 AM
I just bought an 18 ounce can of peanut butter at the grocery store today.  It was $1.28. 

How in the hell could you possibly make it for less?

I do like the all natural peanut butter. Where I live peanut butter is pricey in the grocery stores. It's rare to find any brand, even the store brand under two bucks. It's usually closer to $4 unless I catch it on sale.

 I do buy the all natural peanut butter at Trader Joe's. That is a few miles from my house.  I like to watch all the tye dye shirts shopping for food. I have found what used to be "all natural" from the major brands, is no longer "just peanuts." I like the gooey oily stuff that you have to stir when you open it.

Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: RobJohnson on March 03, 2013, 12:15:42 AM
Hey DUmmies.............Blenders increase your carbon footprint.
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 03, 2013, 06:31:55 AM
Oh damn.....now I can't remember the words to the old rock and roll song about "crunchy peanut butter".
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: Big Dog on March 03, 2013, 06:49:24 AM
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NRaleighLiberal (27,604 posts)    Tue Feb 26, 2013, 03:01 PM

I find hand chopping really therapeutic, so we don't use any electric utensil nearly as often as we could.

They make movies about people like this.

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Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: Tucker on March 03, 2013, 06:56:18 AM
I just bought an 18 ounce can of peanut butter at the grocery store today.  It was $1.28. 

How in the hell could you possibly make it for less?

Only an elitist could understand the reasoning.

Have you ever looked at a DU thread where they list their menu for a holiday feast? Three quarters of the shit I've never even heard of. It's like they peruse some Parisian cafe menu to come up with their stuff. They all use Gray Poupon and don't eat jelly.
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 03, 2013, 07:45:12 AM
Only an elitist could understand the reasoning.

Have you ever looked at a DU thread where they list their menu for a holiday feast? Three quarters of the shit I've never even heard of. It's like they peruse some Parisian cafe menu to come up with their stuff. They all use Gray Poupon and don't eat jelly.

They Nadin some weird food and then claim to be cooking it to impress each other. They ain't fooling me. They probably have a peanut butter sandwich for Thanksgiving dinner and think it's special.
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 03, 2013, 11:03:46 AM
They Nadin some weird food and then claim to be cooking it to impress each other. They ain't fooling me. They probably have a peanut butter sandwich for Thanksgiving dinner and think it's special.

Given their gravely-impaired ability to understand economics and govern their lives and households accordingly, it probably is.
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: BattleHymn on March 03, 2013, 11:06:56 AM
I do like the all natural peanut butter. Where I live peanut butter is pricey in the grocery stores. It's rare to find any brand, even the store brand under two bucks. It's usually closer to $4 unless I catch it on sale.

 I do buy the all natural peanut butter at Trader Joe's. That is a few miles from my house.  I like to watch all the tye dye shirts shopping for food. I have found what used to be "all natural" from the major brands, is no longer "just peanuts." I like the gooey oily stuff that you have to stir when you open it.



Yeah, if I am eating peanut butter for pleasure, I love the all natural crunchy stuff.  There is nothing better on an apple than that.

Right now I go through an 18 ounce can a week between meals, just because it is quick and easy protein.  So, I stock up on the cheap stuff, and save the good stuff for when I can actually enjoy it.
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 03, 2013, 01:03:18 PM
I do like the all natural peanut butter. Where I live peanut butter is pricey in the grocery stores. It's rare to find any brand, even the store brand under two bucks. It's usually closer to $4 unless I catch it on sale.

 I do buy the all natural peanut butter at Trader Joe's. That is a few miles from my house.  I like to watch all the tye dye shirts shopping for food. I have found what used to be "all natural" from the major brands, is no longer "just peanuts." I like the gooey oily stuff that you have to stir when you open it.



I bought a half gallon of Stewart's "Peanut Butter Pandemonium" (ice cream) about an hour-and-a-half ago.  It won't last long. O-)
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: Big Dog on March 04, 2013, 06:32:52 AM
Only an elitist could understand the reasoning.

Have you ever looked at a DU thread where they list their menu for a holiday feast? Three quarters of the shit I've never even heard of. It's like they peruse some Parisian cafe menu to come up with their stuff. They all use Gray Poupon and don't eat jelly.

Well...

They do have one kind of jelly in their diet, but they don't put it on toast.

(http://www.irrigationtutorials.com/faq/images/repair-valve-08.jpg)
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: Tucker on March 04, 2013, 07:15:09 AM
Well...

They do have one kind of jelly in their diet, but they don't put it on toast.

(http://www.irrigationtutorials.com/faq/images/repair-valve-08.jpg)

It's too early for that thought.  :hammer:
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: Big Dog on March 04, 2013, 07:29:30 AM
It's too early for that thought.  :hammer:

Hey, the sun is over the yardarm somewhere!
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: Tucker on March 04, 2013, 07:33:38 AM
Hey, the sun is over the yardarm somewhere!

Sounds like the right time and place for a hanging.

Oh, wait. Would a DUmmy think that that was racist?
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: Karin on March 04, 2013, 07:44:31 AM
Food processors are the biggest pain in the ass to clean.  All those parts.  Immersion stick blenders suck too. 

Leaving that aside, though.  The DUmmie makes chili with Italian sausage???    :o

 :fuelfire:
Title: Re: Ugly concedes to old age; cbayer primitive uses a stick
Post by: Big Dog on March 04, 2013, 07:45:58 AM
Sounds like the right time and place for a hanging.

Oh, wait. Would a DUmmy think that that was racist?

Probably. Then again, DUmmies think "well-hung" is racist too.

Which is why my moles keep getting tombstoned.