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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Kimberly on February 28, 2013, 08:47:06 PM
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Plus more paramedic tales (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022441259#post3)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:10 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
This coming from Caracas
Mr Maduro stressed that a tracheal tube does not prevent Mr Chavez "from communicating and giving orders on all aspects of the economic, social and political life of our country".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/9900083/Hugo-Chavez-death-reports-wrong-says-vice-president.html
That statement alone from the Veep of Venezueala is laugh worthy.
Anybody who knows anything about tracheal tubes...that go through the vocal cords...
Folks...the mystery deepens...and I am increasingly reminded of the Premiere of the USSR is indisposed with a cold...
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:28 PM
Comrade Grumpy (2,465 posts)
11. This is morbid and unseemly.
Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #11)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:30 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
12. What, trying to make heads or tails of an actual nooz story?
He's going to pass, this will throw Venezuela into a crisis, and will affect it's neighbors. That is what is morbid I guess...caring of what happens away from our borders. Feel free to alert, please do.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #12)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:37 PM
Comrade Grumpy (2,465 posts)
13. Not alert-worthy, just tacky. Are you trying to get a scoop or something?
When he dies, that will be a news story. All this speculation, meh.
Response to Comrade Grumpy (Reply #13)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:12 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
17. Nah, just trying to track the story
Last edited Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:18 PM USA/ET - Edit history (2)
I find that worthy of pursuit, you say tacky.
Reminds me of the deaths of a few Soviet premieres, who strangely only had a cold when they disappeared. I think Nikita had one for five months.
Now...that s tacky, to their people. I guess we have a different definition of tacky.
Oh and one last thing, how exactly do I get a scoop by quoting a paper? It's not like I got contacts (sources) in Caracas, or I am physically there...kind of hard to do that you know, if you are not physically there. Maybe your definition of a scoop is different from mine as well.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #17)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 06:25 PM
Codeine (12,498 posts)
66. "Maybe your definition of a scoop is different from mine as well."
That was probably the most unintentional bit of hilarity EVER posted on DU. Perhaps you can call Caracas and get one of your famous "non-denial denials" from a base commander.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #12)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:49 PM
sad-cafe (544 posts)
71. I really get tired of your "nooz" I guess it is a pet peeve
it is NEWS
you as a "journalist" should respect that
Welcome to the iggy list, bully.
Response to reorg (Reply #26)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:36 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
27. Yup, tracheal tube
And...your point...
You think that they are not sedating him? That is against a slew of standard treatment protocols in ICU units around the word. I have no reason to believe they'd do that, and increase suffering, but that is just me. Maybe they are, n which case we enter bio medical ethics standards.
You seem to be having a problem with this fact, Chavez will die...soon. (If not already dead)
And that will throw Venezuela into the mother of constitutional crisis. Why if he already passed they are pulling a soviet style succession on the rest of us.
By the way the section I quoted from The Telegraph, which is laugh worthy, is a translation of what Jornada used. Funny that!!!!
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #27)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:42 PM
Pararescue (14 posts)
28. It's a well known fact to those of us trained in this procedure
that if the patient isn't sedated or unconscious, when tubing someone, there will be a gag reflex possibly followed by copious amounts of vomit.
One the tube is inserted, the patient is usually kept sedated to prevent a possible removal of tube by patient.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #29)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:55 PM
Pararescue (14 posts)
30. Thank you.
I do believe that Mr. Chavez has already passed on and that the PTB are afraid of the turmoil this will cause, much like in the now defunct Soviet Union.
I read the comments of those that have no idea of what's involved in tubing someone and just shake my head in wonder, but I really can't blame them, unless you've been there and done it, you can't really understand what's all involved in an emergency procedure like that.
Response to Pararescue (Reply #30)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:59 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
31. Or the ICU setting
Hell, even in the controlled setting of an operating room, where likely he was tubed, you still need to use a paralytic...unless standards and protocols have changed. The last patient I tubed was in 1994.
Response to Pararescue (Reply #32)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:12 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
33. My experience was in the streets
A field medic, but we were trained in ICU and the OR, with a stint in the trauma bay. That's pretty standard actually.
Why when I read that, I started laughing hard.
In all seriousness, I wonder how the government is planning to let the people know. By law they need to call for elections in 30 days. After this, I don't think Maduro has a chance in hell
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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #33)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:18 PM
Pararescue (14 posts)
36. You're a paramedic, right?
Then you have the pretty much the same experience as I do, except mine was all military.
Ahhhh, kindred spirits, even though I retired from the Air Force in 98. Pleased to make your acquittance.
Response to Pararescue (Reply #36)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:21 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
40. Red Cross paramedic, Mexican
And yes, similar experiences.
One difference, I helped to get the training going from 50 hours advanced first aid, to first EMT'S-II, and then EMT-P...that was a fight.
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #40)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:29 PM
Pararescue (14 posts)
52. Fantastic work
from one EMT-P to another EMT-P.
Are you still active? If so, keep up the good work.
I'll bet we've got stories to tell each other, but that's for another time.
Response to Pararescue (Reply #52)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:32 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
56. Nope...I got my back with a bad lift
Which could not be avoided.
Response to Pararescue (Reply #60)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:43 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
61. That is the way I take it
And the doctor said I would have back issues for the rest of my life. In time it might need surgery.
So do therapy, and keep from any heavy lifting.
I just got to remember to do it. When I gained a lot f weight, sde effect of Avandia, I thought it would finally need it. Lost the weight over two years, and that is that.
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This from a self proclaimed "journalist" that cites Facebook posts as source material. I like that she mentions her career ending injury, it ads depth to her online persona.
Response to Pararescue (Reply #60)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:43 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
61. That is the way I take it
And the doctor said I would have back issues for the rest of my life. In time it might need surgery.
So do therapy, and keep from any heavy lifting.
I just got to remember to do it. When I gained a lot f weight, sde effect of Avandia, I thought it would finally need it. Lost the weight over two years, and that is that.
Last time I saw her she looked like a human beach ball, must have been before the miraculous weight loss.
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I don't know about ventilators but for an ET tube the patient is given sedatives and paralytics to guard against regaining consciousness and/or having an involuntary reaction.
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Whomever is moling with "Pararescue", you might want to throtle back the nads worship until you get more posts under your belt. :lmao:
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Response to Pararescue (Reply #30)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:59 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
The last patient I tubed was in 1994.
Response to Pararescue (Reply #60)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:43 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
When I gained a lot f weight, sde effect of Avandia, I thought it would finally need it. Lost the weight over two years, and that is that.
Now that's the kind of performance we should expect from a DOTY.
A bragging lie, followed by a weight lie. Two lies for the price of one thread.
And there's no need for DUmmy Pararescue to be careful. DUmmy Pararescue IS nutcase nadin.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022441259
Most of the posts in the entire thread are very good:
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:10 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
This coming from Caracas
Mr Maduro stressed that a tracheal tube does not prevent Mr Chavez "from communicating and giving orders on all aspects of the economic, social and political life of our country".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/9900083/Hugo-Chavez-death-reports-wrong-says-vice-president.html
That statement alone from the Veep of Venezueala is laugh worthy.
Anybody who knows anything about tracheal tubes...that go through the vocal cords...
Folks...the mystery deepens...and I am increasingly reminded of the Premiere of the USSR is indisposed with a cold...
:rotf: :rotf:
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #12)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:37 PM
Comrade Grumpy (2,465 posts)
13. Not alert-worthy, just tacky. Are you trying to get a scoop or something?
When he dies, that will be a news story. All this speculation, meh.
Response to Pararescue (Reply #30)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:59 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
31. Or the ICU setting
Hell, even in the controlled setting of an operating room, where likely he was tubed, you still need to use a paralytic...unless standards and protocols have changed. The last patient I tubed was in 1994.
Response to Pararescue (Reply #60)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:43 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
61. That is the way I take it
And the doctor said I would have back issues for the rest of my life. In time it might need surgery.
So do therapy, and keep from any heavy lifting.
I just got to remember to do it. When I gained a lot f weight, sde effect of Avandia, I thought it would finally need it. Lost the weight over two years, and that is that.
:???:
Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #48)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:29 PM
zappaman (7,435 posts)
51. "The premiere"?
What is Venezuela premiering?
And they are gonna cancel because of the cold?
:rotf:
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We need a fourth thread on this.
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Now that's the kind of performance we should expect from a DOTY.
A bragging lie, followed by a weight lie. Two lies for the price of one thread.
And there's no need for DUmmy Pararescue to be careful. DUmmy Pararescue IS nutcase nadin.
IOW, nadin is kissing her OWN ASS! :lmao: :suckup: :lmao:
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You seem to be having a problem with this fact, Chavez will die...soon. (If not already dead)
The only problem I have is that all my celebration attire is in the laundry and I'm out of beer until tomorrow. But, I'll be ready to :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: just as soon as you get this "scoop", baldidwarf.
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IOW, nadin is kissing her OWN ASS! :lmao: :suckup: :lmao:
I have nothing constructive to add, so I'll post a picture of a dog kissing ass.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xwE0rBDpg1Y/SPgAgMSvbtI/AAAAAAAACJA/CKPb_gMNG0c/s400/funny-dog-photo-licking-ass.jpg)
Neither of these animals are nads.
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I have nothing constructive to add, so I'll post a picture of a dog kissing ass.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xwE0rBDpg1Y/SPgAgMSvbtI/AAAAAAAACJA/CKPb_gMNG0c/s400/funny-dog-photo-licking-ass.jpg)
Neither of these animals are nads.
Are you sure about the one on the lest?
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For those of you who think that I misspelled 'left' you are mistaken. I have spelled the word that is the opposite of 'right' correctly according to "The Nad Beeg Buk of Propter Spelling an Stuff". Everyone else has been spelling that particular word incorrectly for years. If you don't believe me look it up.
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Are you sure about the one on the lest?
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For those of you who think that I misspelled 'left' you are mistaken. I have spelled the word that is the opposite of 'right' correctly according to "The Nad Beeg Buk of Propter Spelling an Stuff". Everyone else has been spelling that particular word incorrectly for years. If you don't believe me look it up.
Almost coated the monitor with water with that one. H5!
(Can we 'nadin' the title, or do we have to use another term for the search?)
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Almost coated the monitor with water with that one. H5!
(Can we 'nadin' the title, or do we have to use another term for the search?)
It can sometimes be found with a standard nadin search; however, it will require diligence and perseverance. The regular nooz media, in an attempt to make pretend reporters like nads and I look like chronic misspellers, constantly block and thwart nadin searches from the wellspring of knowledge that is known as The Google.
Suffice it to say, it is to laugh. We pretend reporters can read the scripts and know the trends. We will not be bullied. Eventually nadin's compassion will run out with these nooz people, and she will send them into non-existence status by adding them to her iggy list.
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I'm getting a funny feeling about that exchange.
I smell a set-up in the making.
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(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww46/jangler3/funny/tonights-top-story-francisco-franco-snl-chevy-chase-dictator-demotivational-poster-1255643997.jpg)
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It can sometimes be found with a standard nadin search; however, it will require diligence and perseverance. The regular nooz media, in an attempt to make pretend reporters like nads and I look like chronic misspellers, constantly block and thwart nadin searches from the wellspring of knowledge that is known as The Google.
Suffice it to say, it is to laugh. We pretend reporters can read the scripts and know the trends. We will not be bullied. Eventually nadin's compassion will run out with these nooz people, and she will send them into non-existence status by adding them to her iggy list.
Flippy, Flippy, Flippy . . . no mention of Rubicon-crossing! ::) :(
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Flippy, Flippy, Flippy . . . no mention of Rubicon-crossing! ::) :(
Suffice it to say, for us pretend reporters crossing the Rubicon has crossed the Rubicon. We're focusing on more crunchy nooz now.
BREAKING NOOZ...
This just in, my next door neighbor just walked to his mailbox. More reports as the story develops.
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Are you sure about the one on the lest?
Hey now! What did that poor animal do to deserve that unflattering comparison? Donkeys are hardworking and loyal animals. None of that can be said about nads.
Response to Pararescue (Reply #30)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:59 PM
nadinbrzezinski (116,740 posts)
31. Or the ICU setting
Hell, even in the controlled setting of an operating room, where likely he was tubed, you still need to use a paralytic...unless standards and protocols have changed. The last patient I tubed was in 1994.
Nads you wouldn't know a trach tube if someone beat you upside the head with one.
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Hey now! What did that poor animal do to deserve that unflattering comparison? Donkeys are hardworking and loyal animals. None of that can be said about nads.
Nads you wouldn't know a trach tube if someone beat you upside the head with one.
In defense of myself, I personally know some donkeys who are just asses. :rofl:
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Nads you wouldn't know a trach tube if someone beat you upside the head with one.
Oh yeah she does. She wishes she didn't know all this shit.
There was a mexican stuck on the side of a vertical cliff, a thousand feet down from the top, and another thousand feet from the rocks below.
The mexican helicopter was otherwise occupied, on a secret mission in Ensenada, so the rescue was left up to nutcase nadin.
She and the kids on her truck went to the Tijuana WalMart and bought a thousand and one feet of rope on their American aid credit card.
They drove to the edge of the cliff, tied the rope to the bumper of the truck, and the nutcase rappelled swiftly down the cliff like a pumpkin on a string.
The distressed mexican, who had fallen over the cliff the night before while looking for America, screamed for help as he clung to a small bush growing from the face of the cliff.
The crazy bald dwarf reached her patient only a foot from the end of her rope.
She talked to him for a few minutes, reassuring him and calming his near panic.
Then, rather than take any chances with a possible breathing difficulty, she slipped the twelve-inch Bowie knife from her boot and performed a quick tracheotomy.
Gripping the handhold resulting from the incision, she gave a signal and her kids drove the ambulance away from the cliff, pulling the nutcase and her patient to safety.
It was just another day on the job for the crazy bald dwarf. The patient, inexplicably, did not survive.
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Oh yeah she does. She wishes she didn't know all this shit.
There was a mexican stuck on the side of a vertical cliff, a thousand feet down from the top, and another thousand feet from the rocks below.
The mexican helicopter was otherwise occupied, on a secret mission in Ensenada, so the rescue was left up to nutcase nadin.
She and the kids on her truck went to the Tijuana WalMart and bought a thousand and one feet of rope on their American aid credit card.
They drove to the edge of the cliff, tied the rope to the bumper of the truck, and the nutcase rappelled swiftly down the cliff like a pumpkin on a string.
The distressed mexican, who had fallen over the cliff the night before while looking for America, screamed for help as he clung to a small bush growing from the face of the cliff.
The crazy bald dwarf reached her patient only a foot from the end of her rope.
She talked to him for a few minutes, reassuring him and calming his near panic.
Then, rather than take any chances with a possible breathing difficulty, she slipped the twelve-inch Bowie knife from her boot and performed a quick tracheotomy.
Gripping the handhold resulting from the incision, she gave a signal and her kids drove the ambulance away from the cliff, pulling the nutcase and her patient to safety.
It was just another day on the job for the crazy bald dwarf. The patient, inexplicably, did not survive.
Damn it, GOBUCKS! That chapter of The Life of the Legend (A Speculative History) wasn't supposed to be released yet.
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Oh yeah she does. She wishes she didn't know all this shit.
There was a mexican stuck on the side of a vertical cliff, a thousand feet down from the top, and another thousand feet from the rocks below.
The mexican helicopter was otherwise occupied, on a secret mission in Ensenada, so the rescue was left up to nutcase nadin.
She and the kids on her truck went to the Tijuana WalMart and bought a thousand and one feet of rope on their American aid credit card.
They drove to the edge of the cliff, tied the rope to the bumper of the truck, and the nutcase rappelled swiftly down the cliff like a pumpkin on a string.
The distressed mexican, who had fallen over the cliff the night before while looking for America, screamed for help as he clung to a small bush growing from the face of the cliff.
The crazy bald dwarf reached her patient only a foot from the end of her rope.
She talked to him for a few minutes, reassuring him and calming his near panic.
Then, rather than take any chances with a possible breathing difficulty, she slipped the twelve-inch Bowie knife from her boot and performed a quick tracheotomy.
Gripping the handhold resulting from the incision, she gave a signal and her kids drove the ambulance away from the cliff, pulling the nutcase and her patient to safety.
It was just another day on the job for the crazy bald dwarf. The patient, inexplicably, did not survive.
You didn't mention the fatal mistake when she inserted the tube in the patient's rectum, and her head in her own.
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Hey now! What did that poor animal do to deserve that unflattering comparison? Donkeys are hardworking and loyal animals. None of that can be said about nads.
Nads you wouldn't know a trach tube if someone beat you upside the head with one.
She probably ment a high colonic.