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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Billiam Pitts on February 26, 2013, 04:44:11 PM
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cali (77,510 posts)
A couple of points: "It's a joke, you must have no sense of humor" is a lame
rejoinder. All jokes are not funny. And no, the argument now raging here is not trivial. It's about, as someone said, the continuum of sexism and how pervasive it is. What else is it not about? It's not about men admiring breasts. That song and dance routine had little to do with admiring breasts. It's not really about so-called crude humor either. And imo, it's not so much about objectifying women as it is about demeaning them.
That song and dance routine could have been done without doing the above. Hell, considering that Hollywood has almost as big a thing about showing the buffed torsos of young men as the breasts of young women, It could have been: "We saw your boobs, we saw your pecs". But no, it had to be about women. And a lot of the references were to serious movies where the nudity was not gratuitous.
I have no problem with men looking at breasts sexually. That's a natural enough impulse. I have no problem with crude humor though it's pretty much not my thing.
I do have a problem with the everlasting sexism that's so pervasive- and the defense of of it.
GIMP:
cali (77,510 posts)
3. Well, I am someone who is literally lame.
I have Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy as a result of smashing my leg to bits a year and a half ago.
redqueen amazon feminazi doesn't want men looking at boobs:
redqueen (100,094 posts)
9. Do you think the majority of his fans think he's mocking and ridiculing men who obsess about boobs
as total losers?
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LuckyTheDog (5,595 posts)
10. I have no idea
But I do know he's not a "main stage" act. He's clearly not for everybody and does not try to be. Putting him on the Oscars dilutes both brands.
reorg (1,877 posts)
12. of course they do
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which is not to say that the sight of naked breasts is unwelcome to most men. Of course we look at them, and of course it is self-mockery to a certain extent to laugh at those losers obsessing about boobs. Oh yes, I still remember some of the scenes that were mentioned.
Another aspect of the joke was, as has been mentioned before, that these movies are all extraordinary. So, no harm done if those who really didn't get the joke are now motivated to watch them, for whatever reason. They may get more than they want to, and there is nothing wrong about that.
redqueen (100,094 posts)
14. If it is good natured back slapping fun, then that is sad. nt
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cali (77,510 posts)
3. Well, I am someone who is literally lame.
I have Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy as a result of smashing my leg to bits a year and a half ago.
I had to nadin that one. It sounds like one of those made up DUmpmonkey diseases, manufactured for the purpose of scoring a disability pension.
It may well be, but the definition was:
Symptoms Of RSD
RSD usually affects one of the extremities (arms, legs, hands, or feet). The primary symptom of RSD is intense, continuous pain.
I wish DUmmy cali were not a pathological liar, because it would be great if she had these symptoms.
If she really had it, though, it might tend to stunt her sparkling sense of humor.
(Have you noticed, just in the past year or two, every affliction has sprouted a snappy abbreviation for marketing purposes?
"Use Listerine, don't suffer with bad breath (BB). It's time for a frank discussion of BB.")
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I watched up until the second set of Best Picture nominees were introduced. I know for a fact that Seth MacFarlane didn't preform that number because Captain Kirk came back in time and stopped him. The Seth who performed that song was a Seth from an alternate time line.
If one wishes to be angry at every offense a person committed in an alternate time line, perhaps one should go their and scold them in person.
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So, Oscar showed his boobs.......glad I missed the whole thing. The backside of my eyelids were looking pretty good about the time that show was on.
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I wish DUmmy cali were not a pathological liar, because it would be great if she had these symptoms.
If she really had it, though, it might tend to stunt her sparkling sense of humor.
Well, the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive wouldn't be lame, if she weren't so anti-social.
To recap what happened: one summer day she fell and broke her leg.
She was on the first floor of her house; the telephone was on the second floor.
Her leg was busted pretty much off, and she couldn't go up the stairs.
The bitter old Vermontese cali primitive lives in an isolated place, in the mountains and forests of far-northern Vermont. She has no nearby neighbors, and she doesn't want any, as she hates people.
And neither does anybody else want to live near her.
So she had to drag her carcass two miles through the trees and dirt roads, to get help, an effort which considerably exacerbated the damage done her leg.
If the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive were nicer, friendlier, more social, people would be coming to visit her all the time. And so when she busted her leg, all she would've had to do was sit there and wait, as sooner or later someone would come by to visit.
I know this for a fact; I live in a place far more remote and isolated than the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive, and being deaf, even if I could reach a telephone, it would do me about as much good as reaching for an hour-glass.
However, since franksolich is not anti-social, likes other people, and encourages visitors, if I busted my leg like she did, all I'd have to do is sit there calm and composed, and wait. Doing no further damage. Sooner or later someone would show up to render assistance.
Her miseries are her own damn fault, because she hates other people, discourages them from coming to visit her.
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Cali really has a bug up her butt about this, doesn't she?
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Cali really has a bug up her butt about this, doesn't she?
It's her guilty conscience, which she claims she doesn't have, but does.
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I wonder if any of the DUmmies have watched any of Seth MacFarlane's shows on Fox. Almost all of his male characters are stereotypes of effeminate DUmmie males with the exception of Stan Smith.
The women on his shows are typically the smart strong ones. His shows follow the same premises followed by most Hollywood sitcoms.
On a side note, George Takei said the Oscar's couldn't have been any gayer if he had hosted them himself.
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cali hates herself because she's a woman, and her breasts keep reminding her of that dismal fact. Just my HO.......
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cali (77,510 posts)
A couple of points: "It's a joke, you must have no sense of humor" is a lame
rejoinder. All jokes are not funny. And no, the argument now raging here is not trivial. It's about, as someone said, the continuum of sexism and how pervasive it is. What else is it not about? It's not about men admiring breasts. That song and dance routine had little to do with admiring breasts. It's not really about so-called crude humor either. And imo, it's not so much about objectifying women as it is about demeaning them.
That song and dance routine could have been done without doing the above. Hell, considering that Hollywood has almost as big a thing about showing the buffed torsos of young men as the breasts of young women, It could have been: "We saw your boobs, we saw your pecs". But no, it had to be about women. And a lot of the references were to serious movies where the nudity was not gratuitous.
I have no problem with men looking at breasts sexually. That's a natural enough impulse. I have no problem with crude humor though it's pretty much not my thing.
I do have a problem with the everlasting sexism that's so pervasive- and the defense of of it.
I have no problem with crude humor so I'll bitch about it on DU for hours on end.
Yeah, that's the way you DU it.
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cali,
Real men dig the boobiez.
Real men dig the boobiez.
Real men dig the boobiez.
Suck it up, buttercup.
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Jealousy is an ugly thing.
Maybe if you concentrated on the gifts God gave you rather than what you lacked, you might accomplish something. But DUmmies are immune to good advice and prefer to wallow in negativity.
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cali (77,510 posts)
3. Well, I am someone who is literally lame.
I have Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy as a result of smashing my leg to bits a year and a half ago.What is Complex Regional Pain Syndrome?
Complex regional pain syndrome (CRPS) is a chronic pain condition. The key symptom of CRPS is continuous, intense pain out of proportion to the severity of the injury, which gets worse rather than better over time. CRPS most often affects one of the arms, legs, hands, or feet. Often the pain spreads to include the entire arm or leg. Typical features include dramatic changes in the color and temperature of the skin over the affected limb or body part, accompanied by intense burning pain, skin sensitivity, sweating, and swelling. Doctors aren’t sure what causes CRPS. In some cases the sympathetic nervous system plays an important role in sustaining the pain. Another theory is that CRPS is caused by a triggering of the immune response, which leads to the characteristic inflammatory symptoms of redness, warmth, and swelling in the affected area.
Is there any treatment?
Because there is no cure for CRPS, treatment is aimed at relieving painful symptoms. Doctors may prescribe topical analgesics, antidepressants, corticosteroids, and opioids to relieve pain.
Well, we know why that is the fake disease of the day...
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Her miseries are her own damn fault, because she hates other people, discourages them from coming to visit her.
Do you remember the dust up at the DUng heap when cali posted pictures of somebody at her work? I only got bits and pieces of that campfire, which from what I could put together turned out to be quite a bonfire. Didn't somebody from cali's work get fired or something? I think she posted pics of the restaurant where she worked, which I hope somebody screen grabbed. Funny thing is, on the old DU she made everybody think she was some kind of trust fund baby, but it turns out she was waitressing at some greasy spoon and probably schlepping Vermont maple syrup out the back door if your catch my drift.
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Do you remember the dust up at the DUng heap when cali posted pictures of somebody at her work? I only got bits and pieces of that campfire, which from what I could put together turned out to be quite a bonfire. Didn't somebody from cali's work get fired or something? I think she posted pics of the restaurant where she worked, which I hope somebody screen grabbed. Funny thing is, on the old DU she made everybody think she was some kind of trust fund baby, but it turns out she was waitressing at some greasy spoon and probably schlepping Vermont maple syrup out the back door if your catch my drift.
It's all here. Caution, though--it doesn't start out that way.
But it sordidly ends that way,
"an example of why DUmmies will stay poor"
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,62285.0
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Funny thing is, on the old DU she made everybody think she was some kind of trust fund baby, but it turns out she was waitressing at some greasy spoon and probably schlepping Vermont maple syrup out the back door if your catch my drift.
She is; the bitter old Vermontese cali primitive is from Old Money and Much Money, in Connecticut.
She was cooking for this tea-and-crumpets place as a hobby, a recreation, a diversion, a past-time.
And oh boy, did some of us catch it from the sob-sisters here when we uproariously laughed at her wallduding; they thought we were laughing about some poor old woman who needed the job to live.
We're nice people here; we don't laugh at true misfortune.
This wasn't a case of true misfortune. cali's loaded.
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Oh, I don't recall the sob-sisters. I was laughing along with everyone else, I must have paid them no nevermind. What a day that was.
Why is Cali devoting every fiber of her being to this?
Cali, what difference, at this point, does it make?
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Oh, I don't recall the sob-sisters. I was laughing along with everyone else, I must have paid them no nevermind. What a day that was.
It was a rollicking fun day, and even more so because the thread originally was just an ordinary thread, nothing really special about it, and it turned into a wallduding right before our eyes, in real time.
And we didn't have to lift a finger; it was one of her own fellow primitives who turned her in.
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We're nice people here; we don't laugh at true misfortune.
I laugh and roll on the floor when DUmmies suffer true misfortune.
It's funny as hell when they lose a job or get evicted from their home.
I really enjoy whining posts from DUmmies describing their diseases and physical pain.
It's hilarious and deeply deserved when a DUmmy finally shuffles off to the eternal pit of Hell.
I hate DUmp democrats, and greatly enjoy their lying accounts of suffering.
And I'm the second-nicest guy, or worst case maybe the fourth-nicest guy, one could ever hope to meet.
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Well now, you know what I mean.
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Oh, sounds like our dear old cali has her nipples in a twist.
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It was a rollicking fun day, and even more so because the thread originally was just an ordinary thread, nothing really special about it, and it turned into a wallduding right before our eyes, in real time.
And we didn't have to lift a finger; it was one of her own fellow primitives who turned her in.
That is a thing of beauty. Cali gets what she deserves, she is indeed just about the most bitter person I have ever encountered. What is the walldude reference?
edit- never mind just found the walldude thread.