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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on February 23, 2013, 01:47:20 PM
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red dog 1 (590 posts)
Tell Republicans to Do Their Jobs and Stop The Sequester
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DCCC
February 23, 2013
If you didn't do your job, you'd be fired.
But when Eric Cantor and John Boehner don't do their jobs, two million Americans get handed pink slips.
Right now, House Republicans are refusing to even vote on the sequester.
If they do nothing, a meat-cleaver will chop away, almost indiscriminately,
at essential domestic programs and make life even harder for millions of Americans.
We can't let that happen.
Join President Obama and tell Republicans to do their jobs and stop the sequester.
If we go over the sequester cliff on March 1st, two million jobs could be lost --
including law enforcement, first responders and teachers.
Essential programs for pregnant women, children and domestic abuse victims
could shut their doors.
And the economy could be thrown back into a recession.
President Obama made it clear: "This is not an abstraction -- people will lose their jobs."
Join the DCCC, Democratic Governors, and proud Democrats all across the country calling out Boehner and Cantor before the sequester deadline.
http://dccc.org/Stop-The-Sequester/
You can also share this on Facebook at this link.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251289666
Considering the repukes passed two bills already to stop this, and Dingy Harry put the bills straight in the round file, tell me just who isn't doing their job.
Why has the democrat senate not passed a budget since before the release of the first iPad?
Then they wonder why we call them low information voters.
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Okay, and WHO exactly proposed the sequester, DUmmies?
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Okay, and WHO exactly proposed the sequester, DUmmies?
Exactly. If Dear Leader didn't sign it this wouldn't be an issue. They should be happy that the law he signed is going into effect, especially all those cuts of the hated Pentagon.
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Okay, and WHO exactly proposed the sequester, DUmmies?
he was playing 32 dimensional chess when he did it. :rotf:
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he was playing 32 dimensional chess when he did it. :rotf:
Does that mean he had 32 working braincells, or he was only using 32 of them at the time? :lmao:
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If we go over the sequester cliff on March 1st, two million jobs could be lost --
including law enforcement, first responders and teachers.
I did not realize these people were employed by the Federal government. Boy, do I feel stupid for thinking different. :thatsright:
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I did not realize these people were employed by the Federal government. Boy, do I feel stupid for thinking different. :thatsright:
They're using Obama's talking points, i.e. lies, about the sequester.
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If we go over the sequester cliff on March 1st, two million jobs could be lost --
including law enforcement, first responders and teachers.
Essential programs for pregnant women, children and domestic abuse victims
could shut their doors.
And the economy could be thrown back into a recession.
President Obama made it clear: "This is not an abstraction -- people will lose their jobs."
If those people lose their jobs, it will be because they are the ones that Barry chose to lose their jobs. If it happens, Barry wants the sequestration to be as high-profile as possible as long as he feels that he can get away with blaming it on republicans.
Here is what my congressman, Sean Duffy, a Republican from Wisconsin's 7th congressional district had to say about Barry's antics:
My Statement on Sequester:
"The President has discretion on these cuts. This is why I'm so frustrated with Washington. Instead of cutting air traffic controllers at CWA and other public safety services, the President should first cut the F16 jets he is gifting to Egypt; and the $27 million the federal government spends on Moroccan pottery classes; the $2.2. Billion we spend on free cell phones; and the $700,000 spent to study how long shrimp can run on a treadmill. I'll work with anyone to cut this wasteful Washington spending and preserve the services Americans depend on."
https://www.facebook.com/duffyforcongress
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Why has the democrat senate not passed a budget since before the release of the first iPad?
this is the question the DUmmies should be asking. Hell, it is the question every American should be asking.
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Harry Reid hasn't done his job in submitting a budget going on 4 years...and that's a law.
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Harry Reid hasn't done his job in submitting a budget going on 4 years...and that's a law.
Why would he feel compelled to "do his job" and submit a budget?
He gets paid regardless if he does "something" or just sits on his ass and looks pretty.
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red dog 1 (590 posts)
Tell Republicans to Do Their Jobs and Stop The Sequester
So dummie... we gonna cut what.. 85 billion out of a 3.7 trillion budget and the world is gonna end? That is the reason why Harry Reid won't pass a budget. Because as long as there are CR's, then the spending is set at the last budget... which was the one with the 800+ billion stimulus in it.
It's all good though dummie. I'd just as soon the US go broke sooner rather than later. Then the fun will start. Especially with all the senior citizens that vote. SS will not get cut. No dummie it will be welfare. Your free ride is gonna end! The only question is will it be sooner or later? I'd just like to see it happen on obumbles watch.
You perpetually unhappy people are gonna get a real education on what being poor really means. Nothing would make me more happy than to see all you welfare parasites rioting and getting your ass shot off on national TV.
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Tell that crooked little weasel Reid to do his job and pass a budget.
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Curiously, these marching orders gained only 2 recs and zero replies.
Here's a comment from thehill.
We all had to cut 2% from our budgets this year when the payroll tax went back up. Why should the government's budget be any different?
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The sequester, DUmmies, is completely meaningless.
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Rush reminded us today that at the end of March we will be going through all this same crap once again.
Unless the repukes and the dems can pass a budget or another of those stupid resolutions the government is going to shut down.
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Leftists believe that elected representatives - in particular those from the opposition party - jobs start and end with signing whatever dear leader puts in front of them and nodding along like a good little lapdog.
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Rush reminded us today that at the end of March we will be going through all this same crap once again.
Unless the repukes and the dems can pass a budget or another of those stupid resolutions the government is going to shut down.
I'm beginning to think that Obama and the left want nothing less than a full shutdown of the government. No work done, no checks mailed or direct deposits made and riots in the street.
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I'm beginning to think that Obama and the left want nothing less than a full shutdown of the government. No work done, no checks mailed or direct deposits made and riots in the street.
I agree and that is why this matters. I do think this is a backdoor attempt to reduce the military the way dems have always wanted to. Republicans were just stupid enough to fall for this in 2011.
And it's not meaningless; those of us earning livings in this way don't consider a day a week to be meaningless, particularly when there isn't much work out there to make up for that lost day in this crappy ass economy. Many of which are average americans too who just happen to work in federal employment. Hard working conservatives no less and I hate to tell you all, but the DOD is really getting hit the hardest by this bullshit--not the leaches everyone here claims to hate, but the support system for our military. And everyone is focused on sticking it to the 'evil federal employee'. Yeah, EPA are federal employees, Health and Human Services also, but so too are those that support the military behind the scenes, many of whom would be welcome on this board.
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I'm beginning to think that Obama and the left want nothing less than a full shutdown of the government. No work done, no checks mailed or direct deposits made and riots in the street.
What they'd actually prefer is that after they CHOOSE to shut down some military capability to score points in either sequester or a later budget gap, there would be a mass casualty event caused by terrorists, so they could then blame the GOP for everything. If that happens I don't think it would turn out that well for them, but I may be severely overestimating the intelligence of the electorate considering on what happened in November of last year.
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They should shut down the Dept of Education, Dept of Commerce, Dept of Labor.
What the hell do those departments do anyway.
I wish the gop would say how the DOD is part of the Constitution but those others are NOT.
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The first thing they'll try to do is back up airport security checkpoints as much as possible.
Then the muslim will go on TV every night to explain the long lines at the airports are due to repukes defending billionaires.
None of the millions of useless bureaucrats will lose a dime.
Here in red state hell we don't vote on anything, but up north we had school levy elections every year or two.
If the levy failed twice in a row, the only cut they'd threaten would be football.
The repukes were massively outmaneuvered on this sequester bullshit, and will be hammered politically.
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Look for meat prices to skyrocket when they pull the inspectors from the packing plants.
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I say let it happen. Let's find out what a real non event this is. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that Obama is scrambling to find a way to avoid sequestration in order to keep people from seeing that he is nothing more that Chicken Little and things aren't going to be nearly as bad as he is making it out to be.
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I say let it happen. Let's find out what a real non event this is. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that Obama is scrambling to find a way to avoid sequestration in order to keep people from seeing that he is nothing more that Chicken Little and things aren't going to be nearly as bad as he is making it out to be.
Oh but they will be just as bad as he is saying. You forget that he has the power to start laying folks off who work for the DOD and other government agencies.
It's like Rush said the optics are going to appear and they are going to make this look like it is something much worse than it could possibly be.
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I say let it happen. Let's find out what a real non event this is. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that Obama is scrambling to find a way to avoid sequestration
No way. This is the biggest gift the leftists could ever have imagined. The media will unanimously explain that the whole thing is due to repukes protecting billionaires. The muslim will give a couple of speeches every day with a backdrop of starving schoolchildren. 60 Minutes will show how rotted meat is suddenly in every store due to a shortage of inspectors. The network evening news will show huge lines at security in major airports. They'll all warn that we no longer have the capacity to respond to imminent attacks from North Korea and in the Middle East. And they will explain over and over and over that it's all due to repukes refusing to agree to commonsense taxation of their fabulously wealthy friends.
Far from a non-event, the democrat press will make this appear to be a fiscal apocalypse, brought on solely by repuke intransigence.
Nope. A year ago, the muslim could never have imagined anything as wonderful as this sequestration boondoggle. He's so excited he may cancel his golf trip next month....well, not that excited.
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This is just a tactic to try and destroy the Republican party once and for all. Obama desperately wants both houses of congress come 2014, inorder to push every socialist bill through that they possibly can.
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I'm hoping 2014 is a replay of 2010. Obama's base doesn't have the attention span to be bothered with midterm elections.
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I agree and that is why this matters. I do think this is a backdoor attempt to reduce the military the way dems have always wanted to. Republicans were just stupid enough to fall for this in 2011.
And it's not meaningless; those of us earning livings in this way don't consider a day a week to be meaningless, particularly when there isn't much work out there to make up for that lost day in this crappy ass economy. Many of which are average americans too who just happen to work in federal employment. Hard working conservatives no less and I hate to tell you all, but the DOD is really getting hit the hardest by this bullshit--not the leaches everyone here claims to hate, but the support system for our military. And everyone is focused on sticking it to the 'evil federal employee'. Yeah, EPA are federal employees, Health and Human Services also, but so too are those that support the military behind the scenes, many of whom would be welcome on this board.
I don't know about that. My son says that most of the time, civilians are the ones that mess things up. I can't tell you how many problems he and other Marines have had with civilians in admin. Maintenance isn't much better. They need someone to repair something like their heat or pipes...good luck getting it done within the month. He's dealt with it for 7 years so it's not like these are isolated incidents.
Still, I'm sorry people will lose their jobs, but again, the cuts are 0bama and his cabinet's choice. Like the rest of us who are having to tighten our belts, they have to make choices. It's their CHOICE to cause the most pain to people. Families have to make decisions too. For us, we choose to cut out some extras that make life easier and more fun but aren't necessary instead of things like heat and electricity. The government can make those choices too. But they won't because they no longer serve the people. They just throw tantrums and hurt as many people as they can when they don't get their way.
What are we supposed to do? We can't keep spending and spending and spending. Frankly, I can't afford to pay more taxes and I'm really mad that my grandchildren's children will be paying for our selfishness. Unfortunately, "we the people" don't get to choose where cuts are made. Should we beg our "betters" in the government to please, please, please spend more (followed, of course, by more taxes to pay for the spending...or more borrowing...from China) because we don't want cuts from our bloated government? But then, we'll probably have another last minute bend over from the Republicans with the same excuse they always give, "this isn't that important, we'll get through this and hold firm on bigger issues".
Cindie
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Why would he feel compelled to "do his job" and submit a budget?
He gets paid regardless if he does "something" or just sits on his ass and looks pretty.
What all the Libtards are ignoring too is that Stretch Pelosi told everyone...didn't even try to hide it...the Dems weren't going to submit a budget proposal for 2009. They started giving Obama cover for his profligate spending before he'd even taken the oath.
This is a deliberate strategy on the part of the Dems.
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As far as the vcivilians being furloughed...I lay part of the blame on this at Rummy's feet.
He was the one taht came up with the grand scheme to push every green suiter out of a garrison position into the brigades and replace them with GS civilians.
Furloughs would be a non starter for the most part if there weren't civilians (who are more expensive on the bottom line) doing what a soldier can and would do.
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I give up. Ill take the opinion of my father who served honorably in both the service and as a civilian as gospel anyway over what's here; hes lived on both sides of the coin. At least he's one who will have his grand kids back too I shit hits the fan; I know the boogeyman in this thread aren't going to feed and cloth them or make sure they have proper supervision. I can see by these attitudes though why there is no morale(e meant) incentive to serve in any honorable way if one wanted to do so when it comes to civilian service. Whats the point when liberal think you are a piece of shit for supporting the military and conservatives see you as a piece of shit for being a federal employee. Thank god for some a sense of ethics and duty are deeper then a forum of opinions. Carry on.
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I give up. Ill take the opinion of my father who served honorably in both the service and as a civilian as gospel anyway over what's here; hes lived on both sides of the coin. At least he's one who will have his grand kids back too I shit hits the fan; I know the boogeyman in this thread aren't going to feed and cloth them or make sure they have proper supervision. I can see by these attitudes though why there is no morale(e meant) incentive to serve in any honorable way if one wanted to do so when it comes to civilian service. Whats the point when liberal think you are a piece of shit for supporting the military and conservatives see you as a piece of shit for being a federal employee. Thank god for some a sense of ethics and duty are deeper then a forum of opinions. Carry on.
There's lots of DA and DoD civilians that serve honorably. Never said they didn't. But if you're honest you have to admit that there are a lot of positions for the DA civlian workforce that could be now and used to be filled by green suiters. I was merely pointing out that if the size of the civilian workforce was the same as it was say back in 1996 during the last budget "crisis" that the scare tactic of furloughs wouldn't work. It wouldn't affect "800,000" federal employees the way the Libs are trying to convince us it will.
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They should shut down the Dept of Education, Dept of Commerce, Dept of Labor.
What the hell do those departments do anyway.
I wish the gop would say how the DOD is part of the Constitution but those others are NOT.
You can include the Dept. of Energy on that list. It is a Carter creation, to break to U.S. dependence on Arab oil. They have really succeeded in that task.
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Obama’s Paycheck Exempted from ‘Sequester’ (http://)
I see lord zero's wallet won't be affected in any way by the sequester. I'm wondering, he keeps threatening us with tales of woe about how we won't be as safe with fewer Police and Fire personnel if the sequester hits. Do these sequester cuts also extend to his Secret Service detail?
....didn't think so
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(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h228/burnsk73/sequester_zps910cc4e7.jpg)
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As far as the vcivilians being furloughed...I lay part of the blame on this at Rummy's feet.
He was the one taht came up with the grand scheme to push every green suiter out of a garrison position into the brigades and replace them with GS civilians.
Furloughs would be a non starter for the most part if there weren't civilians (who are more expensive on the bottom line) doing what a soldier can and would do.
I thought it was Jimmy Carter that first replaced enlisted people with civilians in a lot of jobs. Didn't the Navy Exchange, and the PX used to be manned by military people? Didn't the SeaBees do quite a bit of the construction needed by military bases?
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Obama’s Paycheck Exempted from ‘Sequester’ (http://)
I see lord zero's wallet won't be affected in any way by the sequester. I'm wondering, he keeps threatening us with tales of woe about how we won't be as safe with fewer Police and Fire personnel if the sequester hits. Do these sequester cuts also extend to his Secret Service detail?
....didn't think so
What do the Feds have to do with Police and Fire? Isn't that a local thing?
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I think it basically is; although they might get some federal help with some funding for this & that.
Our fire depts around here are all volunteer. No effect on us. We have one Sheriff that we share between 2 villages, and I'm sure he's safe. I don't rely on government much.
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Tell Republicans to Do Their Jobs and Stop The Sequester
Since when is it the Republican's job to save O'bammy's stupid ass from himself, DUmbshit?
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To bring a post over from a poster at cnsbbs.com (formerly ncaabbs.com):
From BlazerFan11
$85 billion is the same amount the Fed is pouring into the market EVERY MONTH. Again I ask unto liberals who think we'll be living in pure anarchy after the sequester...what's going to happen when the Fed turns off the QE spigot, or even worse...starts selling off some of the $3+ trillion from its balance sheet?
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I give up. Ill take the opinion of my father who served honorably in both the service and as a civilian as gospel anyway over what's here; hes lived on both sides of the coin. At least he's one who will have his grand kids back too I shit hits the fan; I know the boogeyman in this thread aren't going to feed and cloth them or make sure they have proper supervision. I can see by these attitudes though why there is no morale(e meant) incentive to serve in any honorable way if one wanted to do so when it comes to civilian service. Whats the point when liberal think you are a piece of shit for supporting the military and conservatives see you as a piece of shit for being a federal employee. Thank god for some a sense of ethics and duty are deeper then a forum of opinions. Carry on.
Well, jtyangel, what do you suggest we do? I'm asking honestly because this can't continue. Had taxpayers handled their finances this way they'd have lost everything by now and living in a homeless shelter. Should we capitulate? Should we just go ahead and agree to 0bama's demands? Because that's the only way to solve this. He won't negotiate. He's made that clear and the house has made genuine efforts to talk to him and try to find compromise. I don't want to see anyone lose their job. My husband didn't want to have 4 jobs in the last 4-5 years, either. All were do to cutbacks or companies going out of business. Plenty of patriots who are/would be welcome on this board have lost jobs.
The only way to sustain this kind of government growth (and the sequester isn't really a cut...nothing is being cut, it's just that it's not being grown to the percentage the government wants) is to raise taxes because that's the only solution this administration will accept. Tax increases cost private sector jobs which means there's less tax revenue. In addition, companies know 0bamacare is right around the corner so they're scared into stagnation already. And most people know and understand this can't continue or we will collapse. Do we continue until that point? That's gonna hurt a whole lot more people much more severely. What would you do? Honestly, I'm not being facetious. You're the republican house. The president won't budge. The senate won't budge. The only real tool you have is what they're doing now. What would you do? Would it be better to continue creating debt until we can't do it anymore and we collapse? Should we just continue to give the dems what they want and hope we get a fiscal conservative next presidential election? We're so demonized now (that's mostly our fault because we have no one with the charisma and balls to plead our case), I wouldn't be surprised if we lost all branches of the government again. I guess if that happens it won't matter anyway.
Cindie
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Again, the sequester is complete bullshit.
WE HAVE BASELINE BUDGETING the only "issue" is the Dems creating crisis where there isn't any.
If a public Fed employee gets furloughed, it's OBAMA that REQUESTS IT.
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I give up. Ill take the opinion of my father who served honorably in both the service and as a civilian as gospel anyway over what's here; hes lived on both sides of the coin. At least he's one who will have his grand kids back too I shit hits the fan; I know the boogeyman in this thread aren't going to feed and cloth them or make sure they have proper supervision. I can see by these attitudes though why there is no morale(e meant) incentive to serve in any honorable way if one wanted to do so when it comes to civilian service. Whats the point when liberal think you are a piece of shit for supporting the military and conservatives see you as a piece of shit for being a federal employee. Thank god for some a sense of ethics and duty are deeper then a forum of opinions. Carry on.
I appreciate your service, Jetty. I've been on both sides of it too, and I understand where you're coming from.
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We're spending over 25 percent of GDP on federal budget. We're taking in about 16-17 percent. No offense to our public sector employees here, but frankly, when the largest single employer is government, does nobody see this as a problem?
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We're spending over 25 percent of GDP on federal budget. We're taking in about 16-17 percent. No offense to our public sector employees here, but frankly, when the largest single employer is government, does nobody see this as a problem?
Of course it is, however Federal employee salaries are just one element, and not all that overwhelming an element, of the budget. We need to cut the DOD and its employees so we can afford to require the same DOD to buy 20% of its fuel from 'Renewable' sources at a real cost of twice to one hundred times the commercial price of petrochemical fuels, or so we can give away $7500 of tax money for every POS Volt? Give me a break. And anybody who says 'Do it with green/blue suiters' really and truly doesn't understand how they cost out, their piss-poor availability to do any actual work after unit taskings and personal affairs issues including education, or the fact that active endstrength limits which prevent that from happening and still having a deployable force. Contracting out is even worse for anything that isn't a purely temporary requirement, thanks to the union-protective laws like Service Contract Act.
Also, in DOD, civilian salaries are purely paid out of local installation O&M funding, the general cash that is authorized annually and used for everything from fuel to copy paper to construction under $750,000 to pothole filling to landscaping to paint for idle troops to make rock signs look prettier. From any real fiscal standpoint, minus the painful artificialities Obama wants to impose to screw with Congress and get people to scream at them, it's really a local budget issue that could easily be handled within the available existing appropriation.