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Title: Rep. Mike Leara (R-St. Louis) - My new hero
Post by: Dacabeti on February 19, 2013, 05:55:27 PM
HB 633

Specifies that any member of the General Assembly who proposes legislation that further restricts an individual's right to bear arms will be guilty of a class D felony

House Bill 633 (http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills131/biltxt/intro/HB0633I.htm)

Blaze Story (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/19/missouri-gop-rep-turns-the-tables-on-dems-introduces-bill-that-makes-proposing-gun-control-laws-a-felony/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=Share+Buttons)
Title: Re: Rep. Mike Leara (R-St. Louis) - My new hero
Post by: Maxiest on February 19, 2013, 06:40:11 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Rep. Mike Leara (R-St. Louis) - My new hero
Post by: Karin on February 20, 2013, 08:51:10 AM
I'm in love!!
Title: Re: Rep. Mike Leara (R-St. Louis) - My new hero
Post by: wasp69 on February 20, 2013, 09:23:20 AM
HB 633

Specifies that any member of the General Assembly who proposes legislation that further restricts an individual's right to bear arms will be guilty of a class D felony

House Bill 633 (http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills131/biltxt/intro/HB0633I.htm)

Blaze Story (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/19/missouri-gop-rep-turns-the-tables-on-dems-introduces-bill-that-makes-proposing-gun-control-laws-a-felony/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=Share+Buttons)

It's a damn shame he wasn't serious.

Quote
“I filed HB 633 as a matter of principle and as a statement in defense of the Second Amendment rights of all Missourians. I have no illusions about the bill making it through the legislative process, but I want it to be clear that the Missouri House will stand in defense of the people’s constitutional right to keep and bear arms,” Leara told TheBlaze, reading from a prepared statement.

His bill actually has a chance to make it through to become law.  If he's not going to push it, then it's just as big of a political stunt as the demoshits and, quite frankly, that's unacceptable. 

If you pull it, use it.
Title: Re: Rep. Mike Leara (R-St. Louis) - My new hero
Post by: Eupher on February 20, 2013, 10:53:01 AM
It's a damn shame he wasn't serious.

His bill actually has a chance to make it through to become law.  If he's not going to push it, then it's just as big of a political stunt as the demoshits and, quite frankly, that's unacceptable. 

If you pull it, use it.

I dunno.

The thing about political stunts is, they work. They get the point across. Leara is enough of a realist to see that his "stunt" will go nowhere and recognizes that straight off.

This, compared to the moron Serrano (D-NY) who insists on re-introducing a joint resolution in the House to, he hopes, repeal of the 22nd Amendment and thereby permit presidents to serve beyond 2 full terms. This 12-term idiot has done this at every Congress since his election.

You'd think that Serrano would "get it." Nope, he doesn't get it. The stoopid runs strong in that guy.
Title: Re: Rep. Mike Leara (R-St. Louis) - My new hero
Post by: wasp69 on February 20, 2013, 11:08:50 AM
I dunno.

The thing about political stunts is, they work. They get the point across. Leara is enough of a realist to see that his "stunt" will go nowhere and recognizes that straight off.

This, compared to the moron Serrano (D-NY) who insists on re-introducing a joint resolution in the House to, he hopes, repeal of the 22nd Amendment and thereby permit presidents to serve beyond 2 full terms. This 12-term idiot has done this at every Congress since his election.

You'd think that Serrano would "get it." Nope, he doesn't get it. The stoopid runs strong in that guy.

If he sees that it will go nowhere, why waste the time?  Civilized people are looking for leadership that will start to put an end to the idiocy that democrats pull every day.  If he doesn't think it has a chance to become law, then he wasted time.  If anything, put it out there and put on record those that have no problem shredding the Constitution.
Title: Re: Rep. Mike Leara (R-St. Louis) - My new hero
Post by: CG6468 on February 20, 2013, 11:46:21 AM
If he sees that it will go nowhere, why waste the time?  Civilized people are looking for leadership that will start to put an end to the idiocy that democrats pull every day.  If he doesn't think it has a chance to become law, then he wasted time.  If anything, put it out there and put on record those that have no problem shredding the Constitution.

He's one of the pols that people hate because "congress doesn't do anything," because he keeps on pulling this crap.
Title: Re: Rep. Mike Leara (R-St. Louis) - My new hero
Post by: Dacabeti on February 20, 2013, 12:13:23 PM
He's one of the pols that people hate because "congress doesn't do anything," because he keeps on pulling this crap.

He introduced the legislation to make a point after Democrats proposed an alarming gun confiscation bill last week. That HB545 “Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution.” It also states     

(1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of Missouri;
(2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or
(3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction, subject to specific agency regulations.
(4)Unlawful manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon or a large capacity magazine is a class C felony.

They are defining "Assault weapon" as semi automatic.

I support what he is doing. Protest the absurd with the absurd.
Title: Re: Rep. Mike Leara (R-St. Louis) - My new hero
Post by: Eupher on February 20, 2013, 12:43:18 PM
He introduced the legislation to make a point after Democrats proposed an alarming gun confiscation bill last week. That HB545 “Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution.” It also states     

(1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of Missouri;
(2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or
(3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction, subject to specific agency regulations.
(4)Unlawful manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon or a large capacity magazine is a class C felony.

They are defining "Assault weapon" as semi automatic.

I support what he is doing. Protest the absurd with the absurd.

^^^This.

The kind of bullshit that comes out of the various lawmakers' assemblies that mean absolutely nothing but wasting the taxpayer's money are resolutions and half-baked efforts that have no teeth. These generally fail to address the issue in a meaningful way and/or are warm 'n fuzzies that are designed to make a particular group feel good about themselves. Meh.

While this effort falls arguably in that camp, there is a decided POINT that Leara is making. And he's minimizing the overall "investment" of time, money and energy in getting the Missouri House to support legislation that he knows will go nowhere by simply stating it up front.

And who knows? Maybe this particular effort will lead to something/legislation that's more substantial. Right now, the only thing that's happening in Missouri are hip shots. Aiming carefully using a good sight picture and proper breathing techniques, not to mention trigger squeeze isn't being done right now because the ****ing politicians want to get their mugs in the press. And it works that way on both sides of the aisle.

Rome wasn't built in a day. As the Dems clog up the legislative process with more bullshit legislation that garners a lot of press by fapping, drooling dems, rational, thinking people simply have no other recourse than to fight fire with fire and elicit (hopefully) the press in pointing toward the opposite perspective as a measure of futility.

Title: Re: Rep. Mike Leara (R-St. Louis) - My new hero
Post by: CG6468 on February 20, 2013, 01:13:16 PM
^^^This.

The kind of bullshit that comes out of the various lawmakers' assemblies that mean absolutely nothing but wasting the taxpayer's money are resolutions and half-baked efforts that have no teeth. These generally fail to address the issue in a meaningful way and/or are warm 'n fuzzies that are designed to make a particular group feel good about themselves. Meh.

While this effort falls arguably in that camp, there is a decided POINT that Leara is making. And he's minimizing the overall "investment" of time, money and energy in getting the Missouri House to support legislation that he knows will go nowhere by simply stating it up front.

And who knows? Maybe this particular effort will lead to something/legislation that's more substantial. Right now, the only thing that's happening in Missouri are hip shots. Aiming carefully using a good sight picture and proper breathing techniques, not to mention trigger squeeze isn't being done right now because the ****ing politicians want to get their mugs in the press. And it works that way on both sides of the aisle.

Rome wasn't built in a day. As the Dems clog up the legislative process with more bullshit legislation that garners a lot of press by fapping, drooling dems, rational, thinking people simply have no other recourse than to fight fire with fire and elicit (hopefully) the press in pointing toward the opposite perspective as a measure of futility.

I was referring to Serrano. Sorry about not being specific.
Title: Re: Rep. Mike Leara (R-St. Louis) - My new hero
Post by: wasp69 on February 20, 2013, 01:17:01 PM
^^^This.

The kind of bullshit that comes out of the various lawmakers' assemblies that mean absolutely nothing but wasting the taxpayer's money are resolutions and half-baked efforts that have no teeth. These generally fail to address the issue in a meaningful way and/or are warm 'n fuzzies that are designed to make a particular group feel good about themselves. Meh.

While this effort falls arguably in that camp, there is a decided POINT that Leara is making. And he's minimizing the overall "investment" of time, money and energy in getting the Missouri House to support legislation that he knows will go nowhere by simply stating it up front.

And who knows? Maybe this particular effort will lead to something/legislation that's more substantial. Right now, the only thing that's happening in Missouri are hip shots. Aiming carefully using a good sight picture and proper breathing techniques, not to mention trigger squeeze isn't being done right now because the ****ing politicians want to get their mugs in the press. And it works that way on both sides of the aisle.

Rome wasn't built in a day. As the Dems clog up the legislative process with more bullshit legislation that garners a lot of press by fapping, drooling dems, rational, thinking people simply have no other recourse than to fight fire with fire and elicit (hopefully) the press in pointing toward the opposite perspective as a measure of futility.

Euph, you're closer to the problem in MO than I am so I am going to have to defer to your wisdom in this matter.  I would rather see his bill hit the state house floor as a precedent setter for other states to follow, but, cest la vie...