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Title: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
Post by: ReardenSteel on June 06, 2008, 02:28:28 PM
Oh Canada! How could you?  :(

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NmVmYzFlNGRhNzhhNGJkMzRlZDE0Nzc1NjFjNTg0NTY=&w=MA==

Idiot’s Guide to Completely Idiotic Canadian ‘Human Rights’ Tribunals
Steyn on trial.
By Mark Hemingway

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‘Freedom of speech is an American concept, so I don’t give it any value.” —Canadian “Human Rights” Investigator Dean Steacy, responding to the question “What value do you give freedom of speech when you investigate?”

This is the way free speech ends, not with a bang but as the result of an administrative hearing in a windowless basement in Vancouver, Canada.

At least that’s where a “Human Rights Tribunal” is taking place this week that will further solidify the Canadian legal position that the right not to be offended by something you read is more sacred than the freedom of the press. 

At issue is a cover story National Review’s own Mark Steyn wrote for the Canadian newsweekly Maclean’s, titled “The Future Belongs to Islam.” An excerpt from Steyn’s bestselling book America Alone, the article highlighted the fact that demographic trends suggest that Muslims may well become a majority in much of Europe and that this obviously represents a threat to Europe as we know it. A few Muslim law students objected to the article and filed multiple complaints with Canada’s national and provincial “human rights” tribunals and presto! Steyn’s opinion and Maclean’s right to print it have now been effectively criminalized.

Title: Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
Post by: Chris_ on June 06, 2008, 02:36:36 PM
Coming soon to a USA near you!

Heck it is 95% here.
Title: Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
Post by: Randy on June 06, 2008, 02:53:38 PM
Note to self: More ammo, we need more ammo....
Title: Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
Post by: Lacarnut on June 06, 2008, 02:58:11 PM
Speaking ill of fags and camel jockies will be forbidden.
Title: Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
Post by: franksolich on June 06, 2008, 03:00:42 PM
For the record, Mclean's is the Canadian counterpart of Time and Newsweek magazine.

It was founded some decades ago when some now-obscure prime minister made a big deal about American "domination" of Canadian businesses and media, and so among the liberals and primitives in Canada, it's hip, it's cool, it's trendy, it's with it, to read Mclean's.

Canada has nothing similar with our own Bill of Rights.

Freedom of speech is not a legal right in Canada.

Just in case the American Nana primitive, NanceGreggs, forgot to tell us.
Title: Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
Post by: Chris_ on June 06, 2008, 03:02:53 PM
For the record, Mclean's is the Canadian counterpart of Time and Newsweek magazine.

It was founded some decades ago when some now-obscure prime minister made a big deal about American "domination" of Canadian businesses and media, and so among the liberals and primitives in Canada, it's hip, it's cool, it's trendy, it's with it, to read Mclean's.

Canada has nothing similar with our own Bill of Rights.

Freedom of speech is not a legal right in Canada.

Just in case the American Nana primitive, NanceGreggs, forgot to tell us.

They go into that in some detail in the article (well-written).  Basically, they DO have freedom of speech in their Constitution and laws, but it is completely trumped by the anti-hate speech laws -- their courts have come down on the side of the hate speech laws every time.
Title: Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
Post by: Rebel on June 06, 2008, 03:04:18 PM
Coming soon to a USA near you!

Heck it is 95% here.


It's already here:

http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/

CAIR is trying to silence Michael Savage.
Title: Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
Post by: ReardenSteel on June 06, 2008, 04:48:53 PM
For the record, Mclean's is the Canadian counterpart of Time and Newsweek magazine.

It was founded some decades ago when some now-obscure prime minister made a big deal about American "domination" of Canadian businesses and media, and so among the liberals and primitives in Canada, it's hip, it's cool, it's trendy, it's with it, to read Mclean's.

Canada has nothing similar with our own Bill of Rights.

Freedom of speech is not a legal right in Canada.

Just in case the American Nana primitive, NanceGreggs, forgot to tell us.

They go into that in some detail in the article (well-written).  Basically, they DO have freedom of speech in their Constitution and laws, but it is completely trumped by the anti-hate speech laws -- their courts have come down on the side of the hate speech laws every time.


link from article...

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/#droits
Canadian charter of rights and freedoms
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2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
a) freedom of conscience and religion;
b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
d) freedom of association.
Title: Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
Post by: franksolich on June 06, 2008, 04:53:52 PM
Well now, that confuses me.

I've been told, and I've read, about how Canada has no such thing as our Bill of Rights, and that freedom of speech is not a right in Canada.

There's a lot of Canadians, usually from Manitoba, who pass through this part of the country.
Title: Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
Post by: ReardenSteel on June 06, 2008, 05:04:05 PM
Coming soon to a USA near you!

Heck it is 95% here.


It's already here:

http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/

CAIR is trying to silence Michael Savage.

Yeah it's here for sure. Savage has his deal and Michelle Malkin (and others) have done great work exposing campus speech codes and what not.

However, we do not yet have Canadian style "Kangaroo courts" set up with the intent of circumventing constitutional rights of the kind Mark Steyn is facing right now. At least, not yet.

Let's hope this trial makes enough noise to wake up our fellow American's.
http://www.steynonline.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&q=canada+free+speech&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=11&ct=title
Title: Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
Post by: Rick on June 07, 2008, 08:51:51 AM

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‘Freedom of speech is an American concept, so I don’t give it any value.” —Canadian “Human Rights” Investigator Dean Steacy, responding to the question “What value do you give freedom of speech when you investigate?”


That sounds hating to me. I wonder if there is a online complaint form?

Title: Re: Short history of the death of free speech. (Canada)
Post by: NHSparky on June 07, 2008, 08:55:09 AM
Note to self: More ammo, we need more ammo....

Four words:

Self-loader in basement.