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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Delmar on February 16, 2013, 12:14:05 PM
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A stupid OP wondering whether Kerry will run in 2016 starts a funny DUmmy slapfest between bim and aptal.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022367313
Response to MoonRiver (Original post)Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:21 PM
aptal (205 posts)
11. I would hope not
Because many Democrats would make themselves look like fools for ranting and raving about Romney's money and him not being in touch with us real Americans when Kerry is just as bad.
I would love to see Michelle or Joe run. Wouldn't that be something.
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Response to aptal (Reply #11)Thu Feb 14, 2013, 11:10 AM
blm (89,119 posts)
14. That post is steeped in ignorance of who Kerry is and how he has lived his life.
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'just as bad' is as ignorant of reality as it gets.
On edit.....I think you were just looking for a reason to make a statement that you have come to believe, so, I challenge you to prove your claim against Kerry and cite your sources.
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Response to blm (Reply #14)Thu Feb 14, 2013, 01:01 PM
aptal (205 posts)
15. Ignorant of reality?
How come when some one disagrees with you it is ignorant?
I don't like Kerry. Plan and simple.
He is 2,500 times richer than the average american. Fact.
So, how can we sit back and attack one candidate on the other side for being wealthy and out of touch because of his wealth. But never say a word about someone on our side that is just a rich, or in fact with his wifes wealth 4 times richer than the guy on the other side.
I see threads about Rubios $675,000 house for sale, and yes that obviously isn't average or middle-class.
But what about Kerry's 7 million dollar yacht? Do you think that is in touch? I can't even afford a $5,000 Bay Liner I have had my eyes set on for years.
So can we be consistent or do we have to kiss anyone's ass who has a (D) beside their name?
Response to aptal (Reply #15)Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:26 PM
blm (89,119 posts)
16. Your post is absurd. No one ever attacked Romney for BEING rich, it was his policies
and the some of the deceitful practices he employed in business to get even richer. Kerry's policies were never crafted to favor the financial elite over working families, Romney's policies for governance and business did exactly that.
What IS consistent about your posts is that you show no sense of discernment and no sense of proportion, and there is ZERO accuracy in your remarks as they pertain to the politics behind our governance.
There is a CAVERNOUS difference between a wealthy man who crafts policies to aid and advance the opportunities for working families, and a wealthy man who crafts policies to take further advantage of the needs and desperation of working families to further increase the wealth of the financial elite.
Response to blm (Reply #16)Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:22 PM
hughee99 (9,659 posts)
37. That's absurd. Plenty of people attacked Romney for being rich.
Complaints about his Olympic horse and car elevator had nothing to do with HOW he got his money OR what his policies were. They were using his wealth to show how he's not like "regular" people.
The back and forth is starting to get tiresome when somebody posts this gem:
Response to aptal (Reply #15)Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:20 AM
Beacool (18,092 posts)
20. You're not being fair to Kerry.
He earned his money the old fashioned way, he married into wealth. Not only once, but twice. He's a lucky man.
More DUmmies babble.
Response to aptal (Reply #15)Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:46 AM
MH1 (12,645 posts)
22. Let me know when you can show that Kerry held some kid down and cut off his hair in high school
or some equally heinous act.
Let me know when you can show that Romney held some kid down and cut off his hair, you lying DUmmy.
Response to blm (Reply #24)Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:14 PM
aptal (205 posts)
34. It's ridiculous that you think a guy with a 7 Million dollar yacht
Can walk into my little 2 bedroom apartment and be in-touch with me.
Response to aptal (Reply #34)Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:32 PM
hughee99 (9,659 posts)
38. He doesn't have a 7 million dollar yacht.
He just has exclusive access to a yacht owned by Great Point LLC which is based in Pittsburgh. I believe the yacht happens to be named after his mother Rosemary Isabel (Forbes) Kerry.
See, he's just like us.
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Ah, the seriously socialist DUmmies getting into it with the hypocritical DUmmies. It's beautiful.
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The writhing they try to do to get out of their own words would be hilarious, if it wasn't so sad.
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Response to aptal (Reply #15)Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:46 AM
MH1 (12,645 posts)
22. Let me know when you can show that Kerry held some kid down and cut off his hair in high school
or some equally heinous act.
I can think of several.
Dumps kids with clinically ill wife to persue other activities.
Lies about Christmas in Cambodia
Falsely accuses vets of war crimes.
Throws away medals in protest (but not his medals)
Docks yacht in RI to avoid half a million in Mass. sales tax.
Opposed Reagan's anti-Communist policies.
This is just for starters..... :mad:
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blm (89,119 posts)
16. Your post is absurd. No one ever attacked Romney for BEING rich, it was his policies
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Ah, the seriously socialist DUmmies getting into it with the hypocritical DUmmies. It's beautiful.
Like a roomful of cats, each chasing it's own tail.
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Response to aptal (Reply #15)Fri Feb 15, 2013, 09:46 AM
MH1 (12,645 posts)
22. Let me know when you can show that Kerry held some kid down and cut off his hair in high school or some equally heinous act.
:bawl: :sad1:
Sissies.
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God I hope the workings of their minds leave them in searing pain every night.
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God I hope the workings of their minds leave them in searing pain every night.
I don't know about that but I bet all that spinning keeps their bowels in a twisted knot.....and in horses, that's usually fatal.
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I don't know about that but I bet all that spinning keeps their bowels in a twisted knot.....and in horses, that's usually fatal.
..That explains Pam's 'condition'..
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I don't know about that but I bet all that spinning keeps their bowels in a twisted knot.....and in horses, that's usually fatal.
Yeah, but Horses are noble beasts. (D)Ummies are retarded beasts. You can lead a (D)Ummie to truth, but you can't stop it from saying RAAAAccccccissssssst long enough to impart any.
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I would love to see Michelle run.
Michelle :???: As in wookie, Michelle :???:
That Michelle?
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You have to remember the same people who were bitching that Romney is out of touch think that Barry is just another guy from the "hood".
Barry has never had to work a day in his life. He has no idea of what it's like to have to wait until payday to get a flat tire fixed then on payday have to shuffle around the bills in order to get a brand new used tire.
Barry has no clue what it's like to go to the grocery store and have to put something back out of the cart because the grocery budget has already been hit.
Barry has never had to coast to the gas station on payday praying that he can make the next 2 blocks without running out of gas and having to push the car to the gas station.
Barry has never looked at his check on payday and been stunned at how much smaller it is all of a sudden because the government has decided that they need your money more than you do.
Barry has never had to wait a month to schedule dental surgery because he needed time to come up with the copay.
Barry has never spent all night staring at the ceiling worrying about making ends meet that month.
Barry has never spent an entire month eating ramen noodles because his car needed transmission work.
Barry has never had to tell his girls that they just can't afford a vacation this year.
That's right DUmmies Barry is not the man of the people that you claim.
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:bawl: :sad1:
Sissies.
No PUSSIES, get the lable right.
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There is a whole flaming thread in Meta right now because of this aptal guy.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1240&pid=223396
aptal (215 posts)
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I have a real problem with this Jury. [View all]
Wether you agree with me or not, there was not TOS violation or my post doesn't go against the community standards.
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67. I was equating wealth, not character.
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A Jury voted 4-2 to hide this post on Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:47 AM. Reason: This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See Community Standards.)
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A Jury voted 4-2 to hide this post on Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:47 AM. Reason: This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See Community Standards.)
As smart as they think they are, the HDIC* need to come up with another reason to hide posts other than this catch-all excuse.
*Head DUmmy in charge.
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MH1 (12,645 posts)
22. Let me know when you can show that Kerry held some kid down and cut off his hair in high school
or some equally heinous act.
Kerry claims he's a war criminal via sworn congressional testimony.
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67. I was equating wealth, not character.
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A Jury voted 4-2 to hide this post on Sat Feb 16, 2013, 12:47 AM. Reason: This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See Community Standards.)
WHAT? Why the hell was this post hidden?
Yeah, that "reason" they give, over and over again is pretty useless by now. Why not just skip it and save space? Everything is hurtful and insensitive to you pussies.
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:bawl: :sad1:
Sissies.
Didn't he "admit" to taking part in abuses in Vietnam, as an adult?
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Kerry claims he's a war criminal via sworn congressional testimony.
You beat me to it, SSB.
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http://www.gordon.edu/ace/pdf/Spr07BRGrinols.pdf
Kerry’s 1991–1995 charitable contributions
were ($0, $820, $175, $2039, $0), less than one-half of one percent of his
income for the period.
In contrast, private citizen George W. Bush gave
($28,236, $31,914, $31,292) in 1991–1993. His highest giving was 15.7
percent of income and his average 9.1 percent. As Texas governor he gave
$27,000 (6.5 percent of income) and $9,178 (2.3 percent) in the next two
years, after which his giving returned to higher levels.
What makes this information fascinating, other than the prominence of
the individuals involved, is that most of us would say that Vice President
Gore and Senator Kerry were more associated with American liberalism
and the position of political verbal advocacy of providing help to the needy.
Therefore, according to this thinking, they should have given more than
the American average of 3.5 percent of income and more than political
conservative George Bush.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/81529.html
Romney and his wife, Ann, gave 29.4 percent of their income to charity in 2011, donating $4,020,772 out of the $13,696,951 they took in.
Obama and first lady Michelle Obama gave 21.8 percent of their income to charitable organizations last year, donating $172,130 out of the $789,674 they made.
Biden and his wife, Jill, gave 1.5 percent of their income away in 2011, with charitable donations totaling $5,540 out of $379,035.
When the Obama campaign released past tax returns for Biden in 2008, it was revealed that the Bidens donated just $3,690 to charity over 10 years — an average of $369 a year.