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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Kimberly on February 15, 2013, 05:33:43 PM
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Your post count is too low for this, Redfairen (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022380361#post12)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:19 PM
Redfairen (392 posts)
Cornel West: Obama is a 'war criminal'
Professor Cornel West continues to be an outspoken critic of Barack Obama, this time likening the president to a “war criminal.â€
During Thursday’s “Tavis Smiley Show,†West took on the administration’s drone policy and said, “The chickens are coming home to roost.â€
“We’ve been talking about this for a good while, the immorality of drones, dropping bombs on innocent people. It’s been over 200 children so far. These are war crimes.â€
West said, “Let us not be deceived — Nixon, Bush, Obama, they’re war criminals,†adding that “They have killed innocent people in the name of the struggle for freedom, but they’re suspending the law, very much like Wall Street criminals. The law is suspended for them, but the law applies for the rest of us.â€
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/02/cornel-west-obama-a-war-criminal-87702.html?hp=r66
Aaaannd, the following comments veer between hating Cornel West and justifying drone attacks.
Response to Redfairen (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:26 PM
maxsolomon (11,645 posts)
1. What president wasn't?
Jimmy Carter? I'd wager the CIA killed someone during those 4 years.
Murder, along with lying, is part of the duties of the office as long as America is a global empire, and murder is a tool of empire.
So all the anger and foaming at the mouth rage for Bush was just for show. Now as long as Obama keeps blaming Republicans for everything under the sun, none of you care what he does.
Response to Redfairen (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:27 PM
SidDithers (25,089 posts)
2. **** Cornel West...nt
Sid
Response to Redfairen (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:31 PM
JaneyVee (2,725 posts)
6. Why stop at Nixon? We've been killing innocents since the dawn of our democracy.
Response to Redfairen (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:36 PM
bamacrat (3,707 posts)
8. I am starting to like Dr. West less each time he speaks.
He was awesome when PBO was running for his first term. West was insightful and fun to listen to. Now all he does is shit all over the President. Every President since the beginning of the country could be considered a war criminal by some. Well except for William Henry Harrison and Garfield. Not sure they had much of a chance. Every President that has sent people into battle or used military force in any way could be considered a war criminal by some.
Response to davidn3600 (Reply #14)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:19 PM
DonViejo (2,919 posts)
15. I disagree...
West began whining on Inauguration Day, 2009, when he did not receive enough tickets to attend the inauguration (an extra ticket for his mother). As a result, West and his family stayed in their hotel room and watched the ceremonies on TV.
sabrina 1 (32,126 posts)
40. West, who has always been a hero on the Left, has not changed one bit in his
principled stand against US foreign policy. As for the 'he is just pissed because he didn't receive an invitation' bs, that is pure nonsense. He campaigned for a president who he believed would change US foreign policy as did all of us who opposed Bush's arrogant and criminal enterprises against innocent people overseas. He continues to remain consistent. It's interesting to see some, not all thankfully, democrats change THEIR views of the very same policies they opposed so strongly under Bush.
Did you, like West, oppose Bush's foreign policies and if so, do you still oppose them? I ask because I am surprised at the silence of some on the Left against the very same policies they so vocally opposed during the Bush years and this can only be explained imo, if people have come to the conclusion that they were wrong to oppose Bush. Otherwise it would be hypocritical to support policies they once opposed simply because a Democrat is now in charge. I rarely get an answer to this question so I'm not really expecting one, but hope springs eternal so I do keep asking.
Our foreign policies ARE criminal. They were criminal, and we all agreed, when Bush was doing it, how on earth could they not still be criminal unless the 'left' was not really opposed to them, but were merely opposing a political opponent.
There you go, answered your own question. It isn't really that difficult.
Response to davidn3600 (Reply #14)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:46 PM
bamacrat (3,707 posts)
19. True, and I think many of us progressive feel the same way.
But to call him a war criminal, I feel, minimizes real crimes perpetrated by real war criminals.
Response to Octafish (Reply #12)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:05 PM
Puzzledtraveller (1,311 posts)
26. Justification is based on two letters of the alphabet
D and R
Under one it's okay, under the other it's not okay
Buddy, you're not going to last long.
Response to Redfairen (Original post)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:55 PM
Initech (36,415 posts)
22. Let's not forget the BFEE started these horrible wars.
They're the ones that should really be prosecuted for war crimes.
:beathorse:
Response to Yavin4 (Reply #30)
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:04 PM
Cha (121,577 posts)
41. That's all Cornel has.. is cheap little
chickenshit pot shots. From Whining about Pres Obama using MLK's Bible at the Inauguration to calling him a "republican in blackface". His "delicate ego" makes him inconsequential, imv.
President Obama swore the protect our Country from All Enemies Foreign and Domestic.. it's not the President's doing that we have such demented enemies.
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That thread is so full of yummy goodness as they cannibalize each other! :cheersmate:
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Don't hold your breath waiting for the Code Pink hags to go after Barack Hussein O'Warcriminal.
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sabrina 1
I am surprised at the silence of some on the Left against the very same policies they so vocally opposed during the Bush years
No, you're not. If you were, we'd have lost count of the number of threads you and other primitives would had started that condemned Dear Leader for the very same things you wanted to impeach Bush over. But there haven't been very many at all on the island, and the few times they show up there's a group of members who, just like they've done on the thread you're on, make excuses as to why they're different. You're hypocites!
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That thread is so full of yummy goodness as they cannibalize each other! :cheersmate:
You betcha. So fun to watch. :cheersmate:
Nixon, Bush, Obama, they’re war criminals
Geez, let's go way back: Truman, FDR, Johnson, Have to add Kennedy because Bay of Pigs was on his watch and I'm sure you be lovin' you some Castro, Wilson, Polk, TR, ......and on and on and on.......
Cha (121,577 posts)
41. That's all Cornel has.. is cheap little
chickenshit pot shots. From Whining about Pres Obama using MLK's Bible at the Inauguration to calling him a "republican in blackface". His "delicate ego" makes him inconsequential, imv.
President Obama swore the protect our Country from All Enemies Foreign and Domestic.. it's not the President's doing that we have such demented enemies
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Breathtaking stupidity.
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Obama is a war criminal.
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War is not the answer Obama, you war criminal.