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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on February 11, 2013, 07:36:05 PM
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liberal N proud (42,789 posts)
What will happen if this man becomes Pope?
Cardinal Peter Turkson: The first Ghanaian cardinal, he's president of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace and the Vatican’s point man on Catholicism in Africa. An energetic 64 years old, Turkson is considered to be more moderate than some other contenders but hardly a radical. Asked about the spread of AIDS in Africa, he said abstinence was a better solution than condoms. A couple of years ago, he said the first black pope would have a "rough time" and he wasn't bucking for the job.
From a who's next article: http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/11/16926298-whos-next-8-cardinal-contenders-who-could-succeed-pope-benedict?lite
What will racist catholics do if a black man become Pope, first a black President then the Pope? What will this world come to?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022352956
Once again a DUmmy sees nothing but skin color then calls other people the racists.
First of all I'm not Catholic so it's none of my business who they elect Pope, secondly I seriously doubt Catholics are going to give a rat's ass that he is black.
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I think they may be more racist than the Klan and Stormfront.
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Nothing like DUmmie projection to show how they really feel.
DUmmies, quit pushing your moral failings onto us.
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They're really worried a black man might become Pope. From another thread: (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022355063)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:43 PM
ButterflyBlood (12,000 posts)
Whoever they pick as Pope...just not that African Peter guy
I'm not Catholic (raised one, but haven't been to church in a decade, don't identify as it at all, I actually do go to a church now but a non-denominational evangelical one, very different from Catholic), so normally I'd put no bearing or importance on who the Pope is, but picking someone named "Peter" with that prophecy around is just too creepy. And think of how people would react and the possible panics. I put no faith in the Catholic Church to do what's right since their track record is so weak, but I am hoping the cardinals do the responsible thing in not selecting that guy.
I have no idea what's she jabbering about. But when you go out of your way to disavow your Catholicness, then quit worrying about what Catholics are doing. It's not your concern anymore.
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Oh my God! Their projection is so obvious!
Catholic Cavers: Do you care about the hue and skintone of the Pope?
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Their stupid asses have no clue obviously to the thousands of missions of all denominations that minister and bring Gods message to Africa along with badly needed assistance. Why even white folk go on these trips by God and these same people tend to see others as souls and children to God not black souls and white souls. Rolls eyes at their racist stupidity. What a bunch a backward morons du is.
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JVS (60,036 posts)
8. He'd be a hardliner on abortion, birth control, and gays. Critics would be branded as racists.
Yeah, wonder where that tactic would come from. :whistling:
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Oh my God! Their projection is so obvious!
Catholic Cavers: Do you care about the hue and skintone of the Pope?
Not at all. Hell, when JPII died in '05, my money would have been on Cardinal Francis Arinze of Nigeria. He's 80 now, but still a favorite. British bookmaker William Hill, according to the New York Post, has Cardinal Arinze at 4:1, despite his being 80. Cardinal Turkson is 3:1, and the favorite. Cardinal Turkson is also the favorite at PaddyPower.com, at 3:1. I should put some money down on Cardinal Dolan--he's 25:1, according to the Post.
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Response to Gman (Reply #13)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:44 PM
Walk away (4,127 posts)
36. I have never met a Catholic who was not a racist and a bigot.
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It's like their brains and their fingers aren't connected... they'll say any old thing as long as it fits their agenda, true or not.
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Response to Gman (Reply #13)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:44 PM
Walk away (4,127 posts)
36. I have never met a Catholic who was not a racist and a bigot.
That should set off some Catholic libs there :lmao:
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Oh my God! Their projection is so obvious!
Catholic Cavers: Do you care about the hue and skintone of the Pope?
Not a little. If our histories are to be believed, the first few were even raised...gasp...JOOOOISH!!!!!
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Oh my God! Their projection is so obvious!
Catholic Cavers: Do you care about the hue and skintone of the Pope?
No he will be the Vicar of Christ.....There is no way I could be bothered by that! :cheersmate:
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JVS (60,036 posts)
8. He'd be a hardliner on abortion, birth control, and gays. Critics would be branded as racists.
I got news for you einstein...Every Pope is as you say "a hardliner" on those things. For the smartest people on the internet they really don't know much about the Catholic faith...or anything else for that matter. ::)
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I got news for you einstein...Every Pope is as you say "a hardliner" on those things. For the smartest people on the internet they really don't know much about the Catholic faith...or anything else for that matter. ::)
Lol. How could you be a Roman Catholic and NOT be a hardliner on those issues?
With the exception, of course, of Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden.
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I got news for you einstein...Every Pope is as you say "a hardliner" on those things. For the smartest people on the internet they really don't know much about the Catholic faith...or anything else for that matter. ::)
See, this is what I don't get. A long time friend of mine from Wisconsin, very Catholic, is Democrat. How the freak does that happen?
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What will happen if this man becomes Pope?
Ummmm...he's the Pope?
What's the problem, idiots? You hearing dog whistles?
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Lol. How could you be a Roman Catholic and NOT be a hardliner on those issues?
With the exception, of course, of Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden.
If we ever have a Pope who isn't.....Worry! and get your affairs in order cuz we ain't got long to go. :lmao:
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See, this is what I don't get. A long time friend of mine from Wisconsin, very Catholic, is Democrat. How the freak does that happen?
A lot are. They used to be Scoop Jackson Democrats with the FDR-stalgia going on. The ones I still know are nothing like these idiots. Still, I do shake my head at times.
Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden.
Should be excommunicated. My mother, as hard line a Catholic as you will find, hates those two with the heat of a thousand supernovas. Particularly, that hag Pelousy.
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See, this is what I don't get. A long time friend of mine from Wisconsin, very Catholic, is Democrat. How the freak does that happen?
Unfortunately we have these folks called "cafeteria Catholics" They only attend Mass on Easter and Christmas and think theyre covered for the year. Not realizing that just missing mass on sunday takes you out of the Grace of God and you must go to confession before you can take the sacrament again. We have alot of these folks and their salvation is completely on them. We pray for them it's really all we can do! :cheersmate:
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Unfortunately we have these folks called "cafeteria Catholics" They only attend Mass on Easter and Christmas and think theyre covered for the year. Not realizing that just missing mass on sunday takes you out of the Grace of God and you must go to confession before you can take the sacrament again. We have alot of these folks and their salvation is completely on them. We pray for them it's really all we can do! :cheersmate:
Well, she is a "going-to-Mass-every-Sunday" Catholic, who observes all Lenten activities as well. I doubt she goes to confession weekly though. She might. She presents herself as being very piously Catholic. Yet she voted for Obama. Twice. I don't see how she can reconcile that. AND she was adopted! I mean really?
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Oh my God! Their projection is so obvious!
Catholic Cavers: Do you care about the hue and skintone of the Pope?
Not in the slightest.
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Response to Gman (Reply #13)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:44 PM
Walk away (4,127 posts)
36. I have never met a Catholic who was not a racist and a bigot.
Go to Redbox and pull out "Sister Act".
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Well, she is a "going-to-Mass-every-Sunday" Catholic, who observes all Lenten activities as well. I doubt she goes to confession weekly though. She might. She presents herself as being very piously Catholic. Yet she voted for Obama. Twice. I don't see how she can reconcile that. AND she was adopted! I mean really?
well then she really needs to examine her conscience. She is probably what I call a "social justice" Catholic. That may be what she gets fixated on and then tends to ignore alot of the churches teaching on the life issue and more than likely gay marriage. Alot of Liberal Catholics do!
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She is probably what I call a "social justice" Catholic. That may be what she gets fixated on and then tends to ignore alot of the churches teaching on the life issue and more than likely gay marriage. Alot of Liberal Catholics do!
:II: My experience with those is that it is almost impossible to talk them out of that train of thought. They have to be smacked with the consequences to grow up.
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well then she really needs to examine her conscience. She is probably what I call a "social justice" Catholic. That may be what she gets fixated on and then tends to ignore alot of the churches teaching on the life issue and more than likely gay marriage. Alot of Liberal Catholics do!
Thanks, that makes more sense than anything I ever came up with. Sorry to thread jack, I could just never reconcile it in my brain. How any Catholic can be anything but Conservative is beyond me. It's like 2+2=potato.
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:II: My experience with those is that it is almost impossible to talk them out of that train of thought. They have to be smacked with the consequences to grow up.
I struggle with the Churches teaching of social justice especially when you consider this country and how actually good the poor have it compared to other parts of the world.But I grit my teeth and pray for them anyway! :lmao:
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Don't know, don't care, don't matter......DUmmies are still going to hell.
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Response to Gman (Reply #13)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:44 PM
Walk away (4,127 posts)
36. I have never met a Catholic who was not a racist and a bigot.
What Catholics are racist bigots? The Mexican ones? The black ones? The Indonesian ones? Or are they just the European ones?
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It's like their brains and their fingers aren't connected... they'll say any old thing as long as it fits their agenda, true or not.
You're giving them too much credit.
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Going to need to keep that DUmp thread in mind.
After the selection process is finished, and some white guy is picked instead, the screams of racism will be epic.
Doesn't really matter one bit who they pick. It's Catholic's business, not mine.
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Nothing terrifies the primitives like the thought of a black conservative coming into a position of power, does it ?
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Catholic Cavers: Do you care about the hue and skintone of the Pope?
Last time I favoured a Nigerian (Francis card. Arinze), this time I would love to have a Sri Lankan (Malcolm card. Ranjith)...but if the conclave decides to elect a white man as Pope I promise not to hold the Vicar of Christ in low esteem for his light skin tones. ;)
Somehow I don't think that S. Peter had a pasty complexion.
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Nothing terrifies the primitives like the thought of a black conservative coming into a position of power, does it ?
If Card. Turkson were to be elected, they would be utterly lost in how to react...though I'm sure they would rapidly descend into pure hatred and bile, with not a few racist overtones.
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If Card. Turkson were to be elected, they would be utterly lost in how to react...though I'm sure they would rapidly descend into pure hatred and bile, with not a few racist overtones.
At first, they will point and laugh, thinking Conservative people worry about the guys skin color.
I give it a month before they start bad-mouthing him.
If it's some white guy, they'll start right off.
Like the avatar, btw.
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I want Cardinal Dolan, he has an awesome personality amongst other things.
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I want Cardinal Dolan, he has an awesome personality amongst other things.
I don't have any favorites myself.
I'm thinking insight from God will guide the electors.
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Response to Gman (Reply #13)
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 08:44 PM
Walk away (4,127 posts)
36. I have never met a Catholic who was not a racist and a bigot.
The Kennedy's? Kerry? Biden? Pelosi? yep you're right!
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Mon Feb 11, 2013, 09:43 PM
ButterflyBlood (12,000 posts)
Whoever they pick as Pope...just not that African Peter guy
I'm not Catholic (raised one, but haven't been to church in a decade, don't identify as it at all, I actually do go to a church now but a non-denominational evangelical one, very different from Catholic), so normally I'd put no bearing or importance on who the Pope is, but picking someone named "Peter" with that prophecy around is just too creepy. And think of how people would react and the possible panics. I put no faith in the Catholic Church to do what's right since their track record is so weak, but I am hoping the cardinals do the responsible thing in not selecting that guy.
They're really worried a black man might become Pope. From another thread: (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022355063)
I have no idea what's she jabbering about. But when you go out of your way to disavow your Catholicness, then quit worrying about what Catholics are doing. It's not your concern anymore.
Will the next pope be the last?
http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/will-the-next-pope-be-the-last/
It makes the case that the successor to Pope Benedict XVI will be the last Roman Catholic pontiff – leading to what has been prophesied as the “great apostasy†and even the destruction of Rome.
For more than 800 years, scholars have pointed to the dark augury regarding “the last pope.†The prophecy, taken from St. Malachy’s “Prophecy of the Popes,†is among a list of verses predicting each of the Roman Catholic popes from Pope Celestine II to the final pope, “Peter the Roman,†whose reign would end in the destruction of Rome.
First published in 1595, the prophecies were attributed to St. Malachy by a Benedictine historian named Arnold de Wyon, who recorded them in his book “Lignum Vitæ.†Tradition holds that Malachy had been called to Rome by Pope Innocent II. While there, he experienced the vision of the future popes, including the last one, which he wrote down in a series of cryptic phrases.
According to the prophecy, the next pope is to be the final pontiff, Petrus Romanus or Peter the Roman. Some Catholics believe that the next pope on St. Malachy’s list heralds the beginning of “great apostasy†followed by “great tribulation,†setting the stage for the imminent unfolding of apocalyptic events, something many non-Catholics would agree with.
This would give rise to a false prophet, who according to the book of Revelation leads the world’s religious communities into embracing a political leader known as Antichrist. In recent history, several Catholic priests – some deceased now – have been surprisingly outspoken about what they have seen as this inevitable danger rising from within the ranks of Catholicism as a result of secret satanic “Illuminati-Masonic†influences.
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I want Cardinal Dolan, he has an awesome personality amongst other things.
The latest line from an Internet gambling site that I mentioned previously has Cardinal Marc Ouellet as the 7:2 favorite now. Cardinal Turkson is up to 4:1, and Cardinal Arinze is 6:1. Cardinal Dolan is 40:1. Maybe I can convince my wife to put her money where her mouth is . . . literally!
Just some background--the last time I tried this was 10 years ago, when I ran my lab's NCAA Men's Basketball pool. She handed me her sheet, and I looked at her national champion, and shouted out, "Syracuse? What the **** did you pick Syracuse for????" And I had a good laugh.
Fast forward almost three weeks, as the Syracuse Orangemen were beating the Kansas Jayhawks in the title game . . . at the end of that game, I said, "It's a sign of the End Of The World!" My wife let me know that she had picked Syracuse . . . an average of every hour for the next three weeks. Remember, there's 24 of those hour thingys in a day. An average of once an hour for 24 times 21 total times. She'd wake me up at night to tell me, "I picked Syracuse!" She'd call me at work--repeatedly throughout the day--and say, "I picked Syracuse!"
I don't think that I'd laugh at her pick now. It's highly unlikely that Cardinal Dolan would ever be elected.