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Are_grits_groceries (12,147 posts)
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I took a friend to the emergency room at 3am Saturday morning.
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Since I have become a vampire,I was up filing my fangs when the phone rang. When I saw the name on caller id,I knew this would not be a happy call whatever it was.
When I answered, I heard her gasping in pain and asking me to take her to the hospital. I live about 4 blocks away, so I threw on some jeans and such and raced over to her house.
When I got out, I could hear her moaning at the back door. I practically carried her to the car. I put my hazard lights on and took off. I know it's a small town because there was NOBODY on the roads. I went through 5 red lights after checking for oncoming cars or whatever.
As I am Pettying my way around town, she is doubled over and screaming at a couple of points. Whatever the hell is going on could range from deadly to extremely painful but not fatal. I talk to her as best I can.
So we get to the hospital and I run in and tell the mooks standing around that I have someone in my car who has back and chest pains who can't walk. They looked at me with no reaction and none of them made one move. I have dealt with this hospital before and the care has a wide range of care.
I so wanted to look around and ask them if I was in the Emergency Room or had I wandered into the 'I Don't Give A F***' Room by mistake. I bit my tongue because I needed their help, but I could feel the sparks in my hair starting.
A guard finally moseyed out to the car and helped her into a wheelchair. Not a medical person had made a move. He rolled her over to the window where you give the info and s****. Now mind you, she is moaning loudly this entire time. She lays her head down on the counter as they twiddle around and try to get her to sign whatever. She can't even hold the pen. Finally that's done.
At this point, my hair is on fire and I am about to bite my tongue in half. I am beyond the raised voice stage and into the deadliest look and voice I have. I know if they get pissed , it won't help but they are mooking around.
I mosey over to one of the medical peeps and with my death stare on quietly inform her that if my friend gets a lot worse or gawd forbid, doesn't make it, every single one of them will be talking to a lawyer. I told her I had a video of it on my camera phone. I had no such a thing but I had help my cell phone up like I was doing something.
That imperceptibly sped them up. I wanted to yell 'What the F*** is an emergency around here.' I have had to go to a hospital twice with major pain. I was immediately put on a stretcher and they were taking my bp and setting up an EKG. It turned out to be a kidney stone one time and inflamed rib cartilage the other. I didn't care if I died or not.
Finally they took blood and some vital signs. Then they rolled her back out into the waiting room. My friend is moaning, bent over, and holding a barf bag that she'd had to use. I am taking notes and names while talking to her. I am thinking that I have to have gone through some portal into another dimension.
It gets better. While sitting there, the medical receptionist or whatever she is asks my friend if she needs a new barf bag. My friend manages to nod so she goes to get one. She comes back and on the way picks up a trash can sitting in the waiting room. The barf bag is dropped in it while I am thinking 'She is not going to leave it in the waiting room. Tell me she isn't.' She did. I told my friend that she better not have any highly contagious illness or the fur would fly.
At this point, the pain subsided thank gawd. I am think kidney stone or something. She has had problems eating and with pain for a while. She is telling me the extent of it which she has kept from everybody. Her doctors don't appear to be in any hurry either.
Finally they roll her to a bed. Eventually the doctor finds his way in. He is very good with the listening hooha, but at this point I don't like anything. I smile though. They agree to do a CT scan. That was actually done fairly quickly. The doctor returned with the results not long after too.
It turns out she has a very large cyst on an ovary. She needs to go see her Ob/Gyn immediately to have it checked. The dreaded 'C' word was mentioned. Luckily she had an appointment Monday to see him.
She has had problems since JANUARY of 2012. Her GP an other doctors kept telling her to use antacids and more fiber. Why they had not done a CT scan before now is another medical mystery. I would like to lay waste to all of them.
At any rate, whatever is going on could still range from deadly to painful but treatable. I am a cynic and don't care for anything I have heard. We'll find out soon enough.
I may have misjudged and been out of line. I.Don't.Care!
She could use any prayers and thoughts. Me? I am way beyond help in that department.
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Security would have thrown her ass to the curb so fast that she would have needed to go to the ER.
newfie11 (2,990 posts)
1. Horrible
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I hope there is another hospital near you. I sure wouldn't go to this one.
She should have went to the one in Toronto.
intaglio (4,486 posts)
4. Sounds like her GP diagnosed her with "Woman Problems"
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Because for years doctors have discounted what women are saying rather than, you know, actually doing there job.
Oh, and I first heard about that from my father who loathed that sort of lazy medical practice in his colleagues.
She must be talking about those Doctor's who got into medical school because of affirmative action.
CountAllVotes (11,451 posts)
5. Jesus, this is horrible
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And as far as I can tell, these morons at the ER could have given a sh*t about your friend. As for your friend, I hope they find out what is wrong with her.
It could be an ovarian cyst which is a very painful thing.
Thank god it was not diverticulitis and the pain was the sort that required immediate surgery!
As for your friend I wish her the best and she is very lucky to have a friend like YOU! to you and one for your friend too ...
Her smell of patchouli might have something to do with it.
Selatius (20,348 posts)
6. Sad that we're the richest nation in the world with medical infrastructure this badly run. nt
CountAllVotes (11,451 posts)
8. it is getting worse IMO
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The whole health care system is going to hell in a handbasket!
Many changes this year for me and none of them are any good at all UNLESS you happen to be a member of the upper crust!
I'm sickened by the care people receive and the greed the goes with the care that is/is not received. I recently had an ER bill myself, $3,000.00 and I was given ONE pain pill and they put an IV in me for no damn reason at all but to DRAW BLOOD . Bastards, all of them. Greedy ****ing bastards that have zero compassion for anything close to be human. Bunch of perverts on top of it IMO. again.
You're right and it's called obamacare.
Freddie (1,237 posts)
11. Suspicious of anyone in severe pain
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Unfortunately when someone presents at the ER in severe pain, many medical professionals automatically suspect that he or she is a drug addict looking for pain meds. This does happen but it's no excuse to treat anyone the way your friend was treated.
Only in Blue states.
sorefeet (148 posts)
27. Took my landlord in with his hand
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the size of a football. He had been bitten by a rattle snake. They refused anti venom until they checked his blood for drugs. They said between the knuckles is popular spot for junkies. He is a big over weight farmer. Not even close to a druggie.
I'll end it on that note.
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Are_grits_groceries (12,147 posts)
I took a friend to the emergency room at 3am Saturday morning.
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Since I have become a vampire,I was up filing my fangs when the phone rang. When I saw the name on caller id,I knew this would not be a happy call whatever it was.
When I answered, I heard her gasping in pain and asking me to take her to the hospital. I live about 4 blocks away, so I threw on some jeans and such and raced over to her house.
When I got out, I could hear her moaning at the back door. I practically carried her to the car. I put my hazard lights on and took off. I know it's a small town because there was NOBODY on the roads. I went through 5 red lights after checking for oncoming cars or whatever.
As I am Pettying my way around town, she is doubled over and screaming at a couple of points. Whatever the hell is going on could range from deadly to extremely painful but not fatal. I talk to her as best I can.
So we get to the hospital and I run in and tell the mooks standing around that I have someone in my car who has back and chest pains who can't walk. They looked at me with no reaction and none of them made one move. I have dealt with this hospital before and the care has a wide range of care.
I so wanted to look around and ask them if I was in the Emergency Room or had I wandered into the 'I Don't Give A F***' Room by mistake. I bit my tongue because I needed their help, but I could feel the sparks in my hair starting.
A guard finally moseyed out to the car and helped her into a wheelchair. Not a medical person had made a move. He rolled her over to the window where you give the info and s****. Now mind you, she is moaning loudly this entire time. She lays her head down on the counter as they twiddle around and try to get her to sign whatever. She can't even hold the pen. Finally that's done.
At this point, my hair is on fire and I am about to bite my tongue in half. I am beyond the raised voice stage and into the deadliest look and voice I have. I know if they get pissed , it won't help but they are mooking around. ?
I mosey over to one of the medical peeps and with my death stare on quietly inform her that if my friend gets a lot worse or gawd forbid, doesn't make it, every single one of them will be talking to a lawyer. I told her I had a video of it on my camera phone. I had no such a thing but I had help my cell phone up like I was doing something.
That imperceptibly sped them up. I wanted to yell 'What the F*** is an emergency around here.' I have had to go to a hospital twice with major pain. I was immediately put on a stretcher and they were taking my bp and setting up an EKG. It turned out to be a kidney stone one time and inflamed rib cartilage the other. I didn't care if I died or not.
Finally they took blood and some vital signs. Then they rolled her back out into the waiting room. My friend is moaning, bent over, and holding a barf bag that she'd had to use. I am taking notes and names while talking to her. I am thinking that I have to have gone through some portal into another dimension.
It gets better. While sitting there, the medical receptionist or whatever she is asks my friend if she needs a new barf bag. My friend manages to nod so she goes to get one. She comes back and on the way picks up a trash can sitting in the waiting room. The barf bag is dropped in it while I am thinking 'She is not going to leave it in the waiting room. Tell me she isn't.' She did. I told my friend that she better not have any highly contagious illness or the fur would fly.
At this point, the pain subsided thank gawd. I am think kidney stone or something. She has had problems eating and with pain for a while. She is telling me the extent of it which she has kept from everybody. Her doctors don't appear to be in any hurry either.
Finally they roll her to a bed. Eventually the doctor finds his way in. He is very good with the listening hooha, but at this point I don't like anything. I smile though. They agree to do a CT scan. That was actually done fairly quickly. The doctor returned with the results not long after too.
It turns out she has a very large cyst on an ovary. She needs to go see her Ob/Gyn immediately to have it checked. The dreaded 'C' word was mentioned. Luckily she had an appointment Monday to see him.
She has had problems since JANUARY of 2012. Her GP an other doctors kept telling her to use antacids and more fiber. Why they had not done a CT scan before now is another medical mystery. I would like to lay waste to all of them.
At any rate, whatever is going on could still range from deadly to painful but treatable. I am a cynic and don't care for anything I have heard. We'll find out soon enough.
I may have misjudged and been out of line. I.Don't.Care!
She could use any prayers and thoughts. Me? I am way beyond help in that department.
It's three o'clock in the morning, the ER staff is "mooking" around, and Are_grits_groceries has to get back home and into the coffin before daybreak.
An endless parade of human debris.
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Only a DU vampire can be this miserable.
If he's a vampire, why are the offending staff still alive?
are not vampires the undead masters of death?
Where is the hypnotic gaze? Why not just drain the blood of his friend instead of taking her to the ER?
You would think he would be welcoming Van Helsing's wooden stake.
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Whatever the hell is going on could range from deadly to extremely painful but not fatal
Deadly, but not fatal.
I had a patient not long ago that could barely walk and she was doubled over in tears and spasming.
As I suspected at the time it was a muscle tear of the abdominal wall.
Painfull, but hardly fatal.
I have dealt with this hospital before and the care has a wide range of care.
The care gives care.
A guard finally moseyed out to the car
I mosey over to one of the medical peeps
Holy Moses!
I am beyond the raised voice stage and into the deadliest look and voice I have.
This is where they would have thrown your chump ass out because you aren't the first belligerent idiot they've ever dealt with and you won't be the last and they are never in the mood for your kind...
...if this were a true story.
I am taking notes and names while talking to her.
No, you'd be interfering with them as they try to perform their duties and you would have been escorted out...
...if this were a true story.
the medical receptionist or whatever she is asks my friend if she needs a new barf bag
No, they would have given her an emesis basin and collected the sample...
...if this were a true story.
At this point, the pain subsided thank gawd. I am think kidney stone or something.
In other words: non-emergent.
So all those glowering death stares were pointless theatrics...
...if this were a true story.
Eventually the doctor finds his way in. He is very good with the listening hooha, but at this point I don't like anything.
You're not immediate family, why are you even still there...
...if this were a true story.
She needs to go see her Ob/Gyn immediately to have it checked. The dreaded 'C' word was mentioned. Luckily she had an appointment Monday to see him.
In other words: non-emergent. So, again, the death stares were pointless theatrics...
...and why is non-family in the room if they're discussing her girly parts?
...if this were a true story.
And they use a CT scan to diagnose a cyst that could have been found with a sonogram and probably would have been the first, best guess if it involved girly parts lest there be an ectopic pregnancy if the patient were anywhere near child-bearing age...
...if this were a true story.
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I'm calling bullshit on this story, I've yet to see ER staff just stand around and do nothing. This primitive is full of it and I can guess what his agenda is, socialized, IE govt. run, health care.
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I'm calling bullshit on this story, I've yet to see ER staff just stand around and do nothing. This primitive is full of it and I can guess what his agenda is, socialized, IE govt. run, health care.
My guess is, they didn't move as fast as she would like which tends to happen when any of us are in the ER, because in our minds we are the most important person in the world at that time.
The last time I was in the ER I had blood flowing so I got seen pretty quick, but once the bleeding stopped they took what seemed like forever to come back and release me, but I realize that once the bleeding stooped it was no longer an emergency and they probably wanted me to sit for awhile to make sure I was ok. Then again I am an adult not a DUmmy so I don't go around bitching about how I was treated, I was too busy being grateful that I was ok.
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Boy, my friends in the ER would love to read this.
They would have thrown her ass out of there.
And then laughed at her.
If this was a true story.
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Security would have thrown her ass to the curb so fast that she would have needed to go to the ER.
She should have went to the one in Toronto.
She must be talking about those Doctor's who got into medical school because of affirmative action.
Her smell of patchouli might have something to do with it.
You're right and it's called obamacare.
Only in Blue states.
I'll end it on that note.
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Yeah these things do happen.
I worked with a woman, sort of strange that had had seizures in childhood. We never knew what the heck was going on with her.
2nd shift she walks in wearing Daisey Duke shorts and a semi see through blouse no bra. Her job was to run a line in production. All went well until around 10 PM and she began to complain about pain and was headed for the ER.
From her mouth she told us a week later that when she went to ER dressed as she was and demanded pain pills, she sat for a few hours in the waiting room. She called the plant manager at the time to get him to call the hospital to find out how she was doing.
Was it the fact that our manager was a black man from the south with a big time accent but someone called called the police. Was she a hooker or a drug addict ?
The police went to the plant and spoke to the manager and went back to the ER and she was finally seen.
She spent a week in the hospital for a rupturing appendix, close call for her. All because the hospital staff had profiled her as a drug addict, but then as she said even someone who is an addict with this problem needs immediate care.
I myself got my butt in trouble when I broke my leg outside and showed up at the ER barefoot. The in taking nurse was in raged I was not wearing shoes. I did not know I had broken a bone, just there was much pain and having had the accident outside had no time to go home and find a pair of shoes to wear. WTF.
So about the only way to get immediate treatment is to go to the ER and tell them you cannot breath.
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My guess is, they didn't move as fast as she would like which tends to happen when any of us are in the ER, because in our minds we are the most important person in the world at that time.
The last time I was in the ER I had blood flowing so I got seen pretty quick, but once the bleeding stopped they took what seemed like forever to come back and release me, but I realize that once the bleeding stooped it was no longer an emergency and they probably wanted me to sit for awhile to make sure I was ok. Then again I am an adult not a DUmmy so I don't go around bitching about how I was treated, I was too busy being grateful that I was ok.
What you say is true, but in my former career, I can tell you that when we brought in a patient with the signs and symptoms that that DUmmie described, the ER staff was right on it, no exceptions.
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I'm sickened by the care people receive and the greed the goes with the care that is/is not received. I recently had an ER bill myself, $3,000.00 and I was given ONE pain pill and they put an IV in me for no damn reason at all but to DRAW BLOOD . Bastards, all of them. Greedy ****ing bastards that have zero compassion for anything close to be human. Bunch of perverts on top of it IMO. again.
You ain't seen nothing yet, primitive and just why do you think those bills are so high?
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Eventually the doctor finds his way in. He is very good with the listening hooha
Her hooha has ears?
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She has had problems since JANUARY of 2012. Her GP an other doctors kept telling her to use antacids and more fiber. Why they had not done a CT scan before now is another medical mystery. I would like to lay waste to all of them.
What the **** do you think treatment times are gonna be like once the Obamacare you cheered for kicks in?
Look DUmmies you gotta realize that when Obamacare implements fully...the standard of care won't go up...it will HAVE to go down...it will make this bouncy look like a quick turn around on treatment.
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Aren't a lot of hospital staff members of SEIU or other unions?
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Aren't a lot of hospital staff members of SEIU or other unions?
Nursing unions don't protect you if you are negligent.
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My guess is this isn't her first visit to this ER in the middle of the night, accompanied by this same DUmmie.
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Nursing unions don't protect you if you are negligent.
That's good to know, and I personally have never had a bad experience when going to the ER.
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Horse shit.
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It was nothing like that when I tried to walk into my local ER with a broken back. It was a compression fracture of T11 and I guess the look on my face told them I was in trouble cause I found myself strapped to a gurney b4 I knew what hit me!
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I had a neighbor that I took to the ER for the same symptoms the Dummy described. They did an X-ray or CAT scan and found two tumors in his stomach and another somewhere else on his body. He died six months later.
Funny, I don't remember my trip to the hospital being as hysterically overwrought and silly.
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I stopped reading after "Since I have become a vampire,I was up filing my fangs when the phone rang. " and just glossed over the rest of this post.
If I were working at an ER, and someone came in with a new set of vampire fangs accompanied by a "friend in crippling pain" at 3AM, I would immediately suspect this is a gambit for pain meds.
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Sooooo, it's 3 a.m., she is in tremendous pain, he has to carry her to the car... ambulance can't be called?
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This is so bogus even rsmithnumbers is shaking his head.
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Obamacare doctor to Obamacare patient, "Here's a flashlight, better put some healing white light on that."
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Just for the DUmpmonkeys.
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Being as he's such an expert one wonders why he didn't just diagnose and cure everyone in the building. Obviously he knows more than the emergency staff who've spent years in school learning their professions. Perhaps we should all just call the boy king and recommend him for Surgeon General being as he knows everything about medicine and an entire hospital trusts him enough to violate HIPPA and allow him in the room of someone he isn't even related to.
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So this one flounces into the ED, starts ordering everyone around, pretends (or did) to violate HIPAA laws, wants it's friend treated before someone who is worse off and wonders why it gets supposedly treated like crap? What a sense of entitlement this one has. Besides the friend was not emergent and could have been treated at a local urgent care facility or doctor's office if she hadn't waited till the middle of the night.
What a drama queen this one is. As well as a real POS for clogging up the ED.
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I can't wait to pass this story around the ED when I get to work tonight...
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What the **** do you think treatment times are gonna be like once the Obamacare you cheered for kicks in?
Look DUmmies you gotta realize that when Obamacare implements fully...the standard of care won't go up...it will HAVE to go down...it will make this bouncy look like a quick turn around on treatment.
Here's a sample of what we have to look forward to:
The report, which examined conditions at Stafford Hospital in Staffordshire over a 50-month period between 2005 and 2009, cites example after example of horrific treatment: patients left unbathed and lying in their own urine and excrement; patients left so thirsty that they drank water from vases; patients denied medication, pain relief and food by callous and overworked staff members; patients who contracted infections due to filthy conditions; and patients sent home to die after being given the wrong diagnoses.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/world/europe/hospital-report-cites-appalling-suffering-in-staffordshire.html?_r=0
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An update.
CountAllVotes (11,457 posts)
66. yep sheer arrogance
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My personal physician did not like this one bit and advised me to contest the whole episode. They did not even bother to send the results of 7 huge blood draws to my doctor and there seems to be no record of this event. I have the bill that was paid by MEDICARE who I also contacted and told them that my physician told me that this should have never been done to me and that it was unethical, esp. being I never got the ultrasound done and still have not had it done as of this writing.
It sickens me and no, I'll never to go the ER again out of FEAR that they will try to do this to me again.
I hope I just die. That would be a far better solution as far as I am concerned.
Living with MS is not easy and as I'm aging it is getting worse.
I lost the hearing in my left ear a few days ago and no, I'm not going to the damn ER because of them and all of their needles. is damn sight right.
You're not alone in that desire.
narnian60 (362 posts)
34. As I read your story I kept thinking about my husband
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who has no patience whatsoever when it comes to stupid people. They would have called security on him and then would have taken their anger out on me, the patient.
I beg to differ. He puts up with you.
CountAllVotes (11,457 posts)
67. they are disgusting people I agree!
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I had yet another episode not long ago prior to the one I mention earlier. I ended up at the ER *again* after taking a bad fall.
And ... I had to pee and pee badly having drank a few cups of coffee earlier.
The nurse at the ER was a young man/kid (IMO) and he wanted to put a catheter in me rather than a bed pan! I told him that it was not that difficult of a thing to do, use a bed pan.
I could tell by the look on his face that he was looking for a cheap thrill out of this whole thing. Alas, he backed off and I got the bed pan except he failed to put it under me and piss was all over everything thanks to this fool.
After that I was sent to x-ray and the man there couldn't figure out why everything was all wet.
I was too embarrassed to tell him why everything was all wet.
I should have said, "Everything is all wet because I had to pee and your nurse working in the ER doesn't seem to have mastered the task of using a bed pan."
I left humiliated and no, I won't ever go there again. I really hope I just die the next time such a need emerges. I can't take any more of this crap or this disease. I'm done.
It had to improve the smell of your stinky cooter.
Nads makes an appearance.
nadinbrzezinski (116,055 posts)
41. Different medical culture I guess
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I remember more than once the Private Car, screeching tires and all, coming to the ER. That always led to a full mobilization by MEDTECHS. These ranged from a top to bottom initial survey, including a set of vitals, to whatever was needed. Medical patients moved to gurney or wheelchair, Trauma getting the full extrication they would in the Field, C-Spine and all.
I guess the Mexican Red Cross has a different culture coming from volunteerism. We just were jumpy, some would accuse us of very jumpy. (Some f e American volunteers were in for a culture shock)
I drove my dad with a lower GI bleed to the local university hospital. My mom was not impressed. We flew, emergency mind you, after they let him out, to Cleveland for the treatment needed. It helps when bro is one of their top doctors.
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Warpy (66,923 posts)
77. 99% of what happens in an ER or any other part of a hospital
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is invisible. Everything seems to move at a glacial pace unless you've worked in one. If you've worked in one, you've wished for roller skates.
Her regular doc is the one who needs a few new orifices reamed out, but even he might have had his hands tied by insurance company bullshit. Her care was substandard.
Is that why you stole the crystal meth?
nolabear (13,365 posts)
72. Where are you? I've never had anything like that kind of experience.
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Got a husband with heart issues and a son who is young and tatted and has a problem that makes him retch his guts out about twice a year, always resulting in ER and hospitalization, and I have never had an experience anything like that. Nor have I seen one. I know people sometimes have to wait absurd lengths of time (I have, for a bad but clearly non life threatening issue) but that level of dismissiveness and callousness is outside any experience I've ever had in four major cities.
Where is this place? I want to steer clear.
Two DUmmies have asked for the name and have been ignored.
Her bouncy could bite her in the ass. Either admit to the lie, name the hospital and get a libel suit thrown at you or simply ignore those asking for more info.
Hard choice, isn't it!
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I hope I just die. That would be a far better solution as far as I am concerned.
I lost the hearing in my left ear a few days ago and no, I'm not going to the damn ER
And the Grammy for best Whining Bouncy goes to...
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v219381TkbKXKrG?h1=Connie+Franklin
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Another Vlada Mitty dream:
I drove my dad with a lower GI bleed to the local university hospital. My mom was not impressed. We flew, emergency mind you, after they let him out, to Cleveland for the treatment needed. It helps when bro is one of their top doctors.
<<<but not sure if that's ostensibly an uncle of the oblate spheroid, or a made-up brother of hers.
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Another Vlada Mitty dream:
<<<but not sure if that's ostensibly an uncle of the oblate spheroid, or a made-up brother of hers.
It's all made up.
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I drove my dad with a lower GI bleed to the local university hospital. My mom was not impressed. We flew, emergency mind you, after they let him out, to Cleveland for the treatment needed. It helps when bro is one of their top doctors.
Curious, no reply to that post. Zappaman must've taken the day off.
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I drove my dad with a lower GI bleed to the local university hospital. My mom was not impressed. We flew, emergency mind you, after they let him out, to Cleveland for the treatment needed. It helps when bro is one of their top doctors.
Curious, no reply to that post. Zappaman must've taken the day off.
I wondered about that. A hospital in Cleveland is better than any hospital in California?
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I wondered about that. A hospital in Cleveland is better than any hospital in California?
The local "university hospital" was in Mexico.
There is no American hospital that wouldn't be better.
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I wondered about that. A hospital in Cleveland is better than any hospital in California?
Cleveland Clinic?
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Her hooha has ears?
Hooha whisperer :naughty:
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Hooha whisperer :naughty:
I resemble that remark! :-) :whistling: :tongue:
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I resemble that remark! :-) :whistling: :tongue:
My RE was one.....he got me pregnant many times. :-)
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Just take the Blue pill and shut up already. You voted for it OWN IT!
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I love the dumpster.........better than a sit-com. :lmao:
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Selatius (20,348 posts)
6. Sad that we're the richest nation in the world with medical infrastructure this badly run. nt
This is why 0bama is dedicated to destroying American wealth.
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Selatius (20,348 posts)
6. Sad that we're the richest nation in the world with medical infrastructure this badly run. nt
Only in America could I be in an ICU unit for 10 days and be expected to pay my bill in full for heart attack care and the person next door get the exact same treatment while me an other taxpayers were expected to pay their bill.
As a doctor once told me...."When it comes to healthcare In this country, it's best to be filthy rich or dirt poor, you can't afford to be in the middle." Obama is moving everyone to the dirt poor side of the equation.