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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: Jasonw560 on February 08, 2013, 10:30:32 AM
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Texas Democrat Reps. bring bills to stop buying junk food with SNAP (food stamps)
http://www.valleycentral.com/m/news/story?id=857436#.URUnWBrCuoY
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I actually agree with Democrats on something? :panic:
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I actually agree with Democrats on something? :panic:
He's from Texas so some of the sanity floating around in the air has obviously affected his mind. :rotf:
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It's good to hear this. Want junk food? Get a job.
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The best part of the article:
Texas State Rep. Richard Peña Raymond of Laredo is taking it a step further, outlawing all food stamps for the use of buying junk food with HB 751.
"You buy whatever you want. You want to buy two pounds of butter and go have that for supper that's your money you do whatever you want," said Peña Raymond. :rotf:
He said the difference is, taxpayers shouldn't be paying for someone's junk food which could later make them sick.
"We should not be on the one hand using money tax dollars to buy junk food and then on the other hand using tax dollars to pay for health related diseases that come about because of junk food."
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Sounds ok to me, but who sets the definition of what junk food is?
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Sounds ok to me, but who sets the definition of what junk food is?
FAGS
Food Arbiter Goon Squad
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Sounds ok to me, but who sets the definition of what junk food is?
There are specifically approved foodstuff for the Women's , Infants & Children program. Should be easy to enumerate nonallowed foodstuff under snap.
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There are specifically approved foodstuff for the Women's , Infants & Children program. Should be easy to enumerate nonallowed foodstuff under snap.
Not a bad place to start. I haven't paid much attention to WIC allowable food stuffs for a long time.
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I'll look at the bills tonight and see if the prohibited foods are enumerated.
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I'll look at the bills tonight and see if the prohibited foods are enumerated.
Break out a dictionary first.
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I'll look at the bills tonight and see if the prohibited foods are enumerated.
The entire text of that bill:
83R2910 JSL-D
By: Canales H.B. No. 523
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT
relating to prohibiting the purchase of energy drinks under the
supplemental nutrition assistance program.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Subchapter A, Chapter 33, Human Resources Code,
is amended by adding Section 33.036 to read as follows:
Sec. 33.036. PURCHASE OF ENERGY DRINKS PROHIBITED UNDER
SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. (a) In this section,
"energy drink" means a beverage containing at least 65 milligrams
of caffeine per 8 fluid ounces that is advertised as being
specifically designed to provide metabolic stimulation or an
increase to the consumer's mental or physical energy. The term does
not include coffee or any substantially coffee-based beverage.
(b) A recipient may not use supplemental nutrition
assistance benefits to purchase an energy drink.
(c) The department shall conduct a public outreach campaign
to promote awareness of the prohibition under this section.
SECTION 2. If before implementing any provision of this Act
a state agency determines that authorization from a federal agency
is necessary for implementation of that provision, the agency
affected by the provision shall request the authorization and may
delay implementing that provision until the authorization is
granted.
SECTION 3. This Act takes effect September 1, 2013.
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The entire text of the other bill mentioned in the article"
83R1820 KKR-D
By: Raymond H.B. No. 751
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT
relating to prohibiting the purchase of certain food items under
the supplemental nutrition assistance program.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Subchapter A, Chapter 33, Human Resources Code,
is amended by adding Section 33.031 to read as follows:
Sec. 33.031. PURCHASE OF CERTAIN FOOD ITEMS PROHIBITED
UNDER SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. (a) In this
section:
(1) "Milk product" means a natural milk product
regardless of animal source or butterfat content and regardless of
whether reconstituted, including milk in liquid form, milk
concentrate, and dehydrated milk.
(2) "Sweetened beverage" means a nonalcoholic
beverage to which a natural or artificial sweetener is added that is
sold for human consumption, including a soft drink, a fruit or
vegetable juice, and other flavored beverages.
(b) Except as provided by Subsection (c), a recipient may
not use supplemental nutrition assistance benefits to purchase:
(1) a sweetened beverage;
(2) candy ordinarily packaged and sold for consumption
without further preparation;
(3) potato or corn chips ordinarily packaged and sold
for consumption without further preparation; or
(4) cookies ordinarily packaged and sold for
consumption without further preparation.
(c) The prohibition under Subsection (b) does not apply to
the purchase of:
(1) a milk product or a product containing milk or a
milk protein;
(2) a milk substitute, including soy milk, rice milk,
or almond milk;
(3) a beverage in which the only added sweetener does
not add calories to the beverage;
(4) a beverage intended by the manufacturer for
consumption by an infant that is commonly referred to as "infant
formula";
(5) a beverage intended by the manufacturer for use
for weight reduction;
(6) a fruit or vegetable juice to which no sugar has
been added;
(7) a beverage or other product intended for use as
recommended by a health care professional, as defined by Section
247.067, Health and Safety Code;
(8) a beverage or other product that contains plant
protein sources; or
(9) a product that:
(A) is fortified with a vitamin or mineral; and
(B) contains a source of protein.
SECTION 2. If before implementing any provision of this Act
a state agency determines that authorization from a federal agency
is necessary for implementation of that provision, the agency
affected by the provision shall request the authorization and may
delay implementing that provision until the authorization is
granted.
SECTION 3. This Act takes effect September 1, 2013.
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Went to the commissary yesterday, customer in front of me had a total bill of $420, all of it on EBT. I saw them pushing it out, all junk, prepared foods, and mass quantities of fresh meat. I don't spend $400/month on groceries.
Come to think of it, there's many times I've seen people in the commissary with a cart completely filled with meat. There's no way that's all for personal use.
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Went to the commissary yesterday, customer in front of me had a total bill of $420, all of it on EBT. I saw them pushing it out, all junk, prepared foods, and mass quantities of fresh meat. I don't spend $400/month on groceries.
Come to think of it, there's many times I've seen people in the commissary with a cart completely filled with meat. There's no way that's all for personal use.
They're alloted so much per month.
Most people buy one month's worth of food at one time.
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And rich_t, thanks for the text of the bills.
I'm going to follow these bills.
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They're alloted so much per month.
Most people buy one month's worth of food at one time.
Would it make a difference in your opinion that I saw those same ladies putting their $400+ of taxpayer bought groceries in a LEXUS SUV? (although it could have been an infiniti, I was a couple rows over in the parking lot, but definitely one of the "luxury" brands) Add to that the fact that the only people who can shop at the commissary are current military and dependents, retired military and dependents, and my :bs: flag comes out. I know they have an income, either their military pay or their pension. Why am I (and millions of other taxpayers) paying for the groceries they put in their late model Lexus, while I'm driving a 2003 Ford Explorer with over 130k miles on it?
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Would it make a difference in your opinion that I saw those same ladies putting their $400+ of taxpayer bought groceries in a LEXUS SUV? (although it could have been an infiniti, I was a couple rows over in the parking lot, but definitely one of the "luxury" brands) Add to that the fact that the only people who can shop at the commissary are current military and dependents, retired military and dependents, and my :bs: flag comes out. I know they have an income, either their military pay or their pension. Why am I (and millions of other taxpayers) paying for the groceries they put in their late model Lexus, while I'm driving a 2003 Ford Explorer with over 130k miles on it?
I agree.
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And rich_t, thanks for the text of the bills.
I'm going to follow these bills.
I am as well. SNAP has been advertising on our local AM talk radio about the ability to get fresh vegetables and fruits with the card. I wonder if that is what that's about.
Personally, I would like to see a WIC and SNAP only store. It should be as uncomfortable as possible to get subsidized food. Like the old white generic boxes.
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This is totally racist and unfair! How else is Honey Booboo going to get the 4lbs of Mayo she puts on her Cupcake and French fry sandwich?
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The riots begin in 1...2...3............
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The reckless spending of some of those on SNAP keeps a lot of convenience stores in business, who needs a grocery store? Who needs coupons or worry about shelf prices?
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Would it make a difference in your opinion that I saw those same ladies putting their $400+ of taxpayer bought groceries in a LEXUS SUV? (although it could have been an infiniti, I was a couple rows over in the parking lot, but definitely one of the "luxury" brands) Add to that the fact that the only people who can shop at the commissary are current military and dependents, retired military and dependents, and my :bs: flag comes out. I know they have an income, either their military pay or their pension. Why am I (and millions of other taxpayers) paying for the groceries they put in their late model Lexus, while I'm driving a 2003 Ford Explorer with over 130k miles on it?
And think about the fact that $400 at the commissary would cost $500-550 (or more) out in town.
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Hopefully other states will follow, if they haven't already...
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The riots begin in 1...2...3............
What do we want?
JUNKFOOD!
When do we want it?
NOW!
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Would it make a difference in your opinion that I saw those same ladies putting their $400+ of taxpayer bought groceries in a LEXUS SUV? (although it could have been an infiniti, I was a couple rows over in the parking lot, but definitely one of the "luxury" brands) Add to that the fact that the only people who can shop at the commissary are current military and dependents, retired military and dependents, and my :bs: flag comes out. I know they have an income, either their military pay or their pension. Why am I (and millions of other taxpayers) paying for the groceries they put in their late model Lexus, while I'm driving a 2003 Ford Explorer with over 130k miles on it?
No, I agree with you. I see them every week piling their food into luxury F150's, Escalades, Lexuses (Lexi?), while toting Coach purses and all their bling.
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Personally, I would like to see a WIC and SNAP only store. It should be as uncomfortable as possible to get subsidized food. Like the old white generic boxes.
Weren't those great? :lmao: You knew what you had in those boxes and cans.
A WIC and SNAP only store would be awesome. Just fill it with good wholesome stuff.
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Weren't those great? :lmao: You knew what you had in those boxes and cans.
A WIC and SNAP only store would be awesome. Just fill it with good wholesome stuff.
Yeah, I remember the Kroger had an aisle filled, both sides with nothing but white box stuff. Mom said we didn't need to go down that aisle. I knew from the git-go that there was a stigma attached to it.
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In North Carolina, the state owns and runs all the liquor stores. I don't think I saw a private liquor store in Wake County.
Don't see why they can't do the same thing with EBT.
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Yeah, I remember the Kroger had an aisle filled, both sides with nothing but white box stuff. Mom said we didn't need to go down that aisle. I knew from the git-go that there was a stigma attached to it.
Well, to be fair, most of the "white box generic" stuff sucks.
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Well, to be fair, most of the "white box generic" stuff sucks.
True that, as I learned in my college years when I was very poor.
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No, I agree with you. I see them every week piling their food into luxury F150's, Escalades, Lexuses (Lexi?), while toting Coach purses and all their bling.
Back in the early-mid 80's, I was working in a grocery store. A woman was complaining about how WIC vouchers didn't let her buy the more expensive brands of items. What her WIC vouched didn't cover, her food stamps did. When I carried out her groceries, she was driving a brand new, full-sized van. I was walking to work (one mile, one way).
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True that, as I learned in my college years when I was very poor.
But, you still bought it because you had to.
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But, you still bought it because you had to.
Yes. I had a great example of making do as a child. My Grandad put himself through medical school by coaching basketball one semester, and then schooling the next. He told me he would heat up ketchup on a hot plate and eat ketchup soup for dinner, when that was all he had.
My Grandparents met on one of his teaching semesters, as she was teaching to put her sisters through college. (her Dad died when she was 18, and she and the oldest worked to support the family.) When my Grandparents got married, they lived apart in different states for 7 years, as they couldn't find work close to each other.
I always figured, as long as I am not eating ketchup soup, I have nothing to gripe about.
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I remember as a kid my dad sitting on the concrete steps drinking from a pure white can with the black letters "BEER" on it. It dawned on me at that second that my dad was an alcoholic.
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I remember as a kid my dad sitting on the concrete steps drinking from a pure white can with the black letters "BEER" on it. It dawned on me at that second that my dad was an alcoholic.
Yeah, that might be the giveaway. I mean, Scoobie'll tell you I loves me my beer. But I don't love it THAT much. Even I have standards, despite what you may hear. Then again, I did drink Schaeffer in college.
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In North Carolina, the state owns and runs all the liquor stores. I don't think I saw a private liquor store in Wake County.
Don't see why they can't do the same thing with EBT.
And you won't either. The state doesn't allow sales of liquor by the bottle.