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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on February 07, 2013, 07:31:32 PM
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When I made my thread about any liberal going on a murderous rampage I was deliberately using the leftist tactic of guilt by association -- although recent killers like Jared Loughner and Joe Stack were leftists and the rest were apolitical limp dicks. Still, Other-People's-Shit is the medium in which I paint.
Now, however, I learn that not only is the left not embarrassed into introspection about thir dishonest tactics they actually embrace the killings. The killings have become justified and Dorner is being deified.
Taverner (52,041 posts)
I hope to dog they capture Christopher Jordan Dorner alive
He has a story to tell - and this is LA's worst kept secret
Things only got WORSE after Rampart
The LAPD is the most corrupt LEA in the country
Why? They have the best PR department in the world - ALL of Hollywood!
If a movie doesn't make the LAPD look good, they deny filming permits. Period.
Cali_Democrat (13,630 posts)
1. Knowing the LAPD and their buddies in other departments
They will try to kill him before he spills the beans.
JI7 (38,686 posts)
3. not sure he has much to say, if he did, why not reveal that ?
why kill innocent people instead ?
and coming from him it would just lose credibility even if he might be right.
Taverner (52,041 posts)
8. Because he is a man without a voice
I am not excusing what he did
But the real story is about the LAPD, not this guy
What is the LAPD hiding, and why?
JI7 (38,686 posts)
16. the guy lost any credibility he might have had
and the story is about him. he is out there killing innocent people. the first 2 people he killed. the 28 year old daughter of an lapd officer and her 27 year old fiance.
Taverner (52,041 posts)
34. Does. Not. Matter.
Just because you are an asshole, doesn't make your message any less important.
Taverner (52,041 posts)
37. Yes - I would agree he is a narcisist
But his message is his message
Don't kill the messenger - ignore him
But pay attention to the message
NightOwwl (5,252 posts)
13. His manifesto is not the ravings of a lunatic.
It alleges corruption, racism and physical abuse among other things. Says things have gotten worse since Rodney King.
The LAPD taking shots at two women in a truck that's not even the same make plays right into Dorner's accusations.
He knows too much. There is no way they will take him alive.
nadinbrzezinski (115,844 posts)
63. Leave the emotion
The problems at the Rampart division were legendary, for example.
The issues he raises are there. They are very real and the FEDs had LAPD under observation for decades.
These are facts.
He also, so far, has killed three people. I do not expect him to be taken alive, due to some of the people in question. While you might applaud this, let's go back to the very well known issues of LAPD and what do we do about it? Cause you know what? LAPD thanks you for letting your emotion ignore the issues raised, the issues of very serious corruption.
He alleges he took this to courts...tried to be a whistleblower...there is a smidgen of reality to that claim.
Regardless, trial of the century? Don't think so, his next stop is a cold slab at the morgue.
bayareamike (503 posts)
100. Leave the emotion? What?
This guy is a lunatic and he is murdering people. Why leave the emotion?
Corruption within the LAPD, which I myself have admitted is documented and known, in no way justifies, rationalizes, or excuses murder. Coldblooded murder against innocent parties, I might add.
nadinbrzezinski (115,844 posts)
102. Nobody is excusing any of the murders
And yes, you are letting emotion get in the way.
Have a good day.
damnedifIknow (279 posts)
85. Flat out
these cops were not looking for an arrest in my opinion they were looking for a kill. Judge, jury, executioner.
coalition_unwilling (14,130 posts)
96. They're going to kill him and probably have a drone lined up and
armed for exactly that mission.
No way are they going to allow the story of Rampart (whitewashed and swept under the rug) to be aired out in its full magesty. No way.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022331767
This is an important psychological milestone.
In days past the left wanted to silence their enemies but always with an pretense of civility, i.e. "we need a Fairness Doctrine because it's fair."
Then they moved to discredit, i.e. "you get your talking points from Faux Nooz."
Then they moved to declarations of guilt, i.e. "the shooting of the congresswoman means it is time to examine the rhetoric of the Reich-wing"
To the declaration of outlawry, i.e. "Limbaugh is preaching sedition to the troops!"
When their side got caught in the act they pretended it wasn't them, i.e. "Those weren't members of Occupy! They're agent provacateurs!" or "Just because he worked as a GLBTWTFBBQ advocate and shot up the FRC doesn't mean he's one of ours."
Now we have someone actively on a rampage and the left feels confident enough to champion his cause. Write a good manifesto and having a story easily massaged into an MSNBC Movie of the Week and you will be praised. The next leftist who wants to be a hero to the world and make something out of their frustrated, unrecognized existence will get the laurels and rose petal treatment.
I think things may well get increasingly deadlier in the next few years.
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Now we have someone actively on a rampage and the left feels confident enough to champion his cause. Write a good manifesto and having a story easily massaged into an MSNBC Movie of the Week and you will be praised. The next leftist who wants to be a hero to the world and make something out of their frustrated, unrecognized existence will get the laurels and rose petal treatment.
With the current media? Easily done.
I think things may well get increasingly deadlier in the next few years.
They will and I am to the point that I no longer care.
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Taverner (52,041 posts)
34. Does. Not. Matter.
Just because you are an asshole, doesn't make your message any less important.
Yeah ignore Manson's assholishness, listen to his message.
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I challenge anyone to translate nutcase nadin's reply into English.
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Killer groupies. :mental:
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (9,757 posts)
154. Wow.
You've really hit rock bottom.
This is in response to Tavs
Taverner (52,066 posts)
34. Does. Not. Matter.
Just because you are an asshole, doesn't make your message any less important.
I say to the other DUmmy stick around you will see Tavs go even lower.
Taverner (52,066 posts)
10. He should drive to San Jose, and turn himself in
SJPD has something that no other LEA has - cameras EVERYWHERE
There's no way they could cover up anything there
He could slip and fall off the curb and suffer a fatal head injury with the cameras there.
Dreamer Tatum (6,696 posts)
30. You're holding a "Go Dorner Go" sign but I'M a troll?
Um, yeah. Whatever, dude. I sure hope you don't get in the way of your heroes' valiant escape from justice.
:rotf:
Taverner (52,066 posts)
41. Either you never read my posts, saw the name "Taverner" and decided to troll
Or you are RWinger who is trying, by any means necessary, to destroy MY credibility.
You wouldn't be an LAPD cop would ya?
Sorry Tavs, but you never had any credibility to begin with, strike one you are DUmmy and we all know Frank's law of primitives, strike 2 you post really stupid shit everyday even for a DUmmy, strike 3 you are a drug addled idiot.
Dreamer Tatum (6,696 posts)
56. No, you're realizing that you're cheering on a murderer
and rather than seeking an elegant way out, you're pointing at other people, like most
pathetic people do.
How Dreamer Tatum has not been banned is beyond me.
This one of the best threads at DUmmyland in a long time. :rotf:
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Tavernturd needs a pizza but they won't do it.
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This is the next Mumia. Mark my words.
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Taverner (52,041 posts)
34. Does. Not. Matter.
Just because you are an asshole, doesn't make your message any less important.
So says the drug-addled asshole who's incoherent messages (aka rambling diatribes and incoherent threats of violence) COULDN'T be any less impotent.
Taverner (52,041 posts)
37. Yes - I would agree he is a narcisist
But his message is his message
Don't kill the messenger - ignore him
But pay attention to the message
Dude; do you have ANY IDEA how stupid - well, how much MORE stupid - you sound when you don't proofread before you post? So, which is it? Do we IGNORE Dorner, or do you suggest we PAY ATTENTION to Dorner....
...you idiot.
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Taverner (52,041 posts)
34. Does. Not. Matter.
Just because you are an asshole, doesn't make your message any less important.
He's an asshole who's killed three people.
Once you cross that line, your message is irrelevant.
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This SHOULD be stickyed. The only reason Taverner won't go that far is to remain in the DUmp. Hell, Dorner supports Annonomys.
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Taverner (52,041 posts)
34. Does. Not. Matter.
Just because you are an asshole, doesn't make your message any less important.
Says one of the most self-important assholes at the DUmp.
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If this was St. Pete, FL, Dorner would have been found and filled with about 100 bullets just for killing another officer. True story, happened a couple of times.
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Taverner (52,041 posts)
8. Because he is a man without a voice
I am not excusing what he did
But the real story is about the LAPD, not this guy
What is the LAPD hiding, and why?
gNads should be on this right?
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Men without voices and are liberal usually start blogs no one will read.
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This is the next Mumia. Mark my words.
Oh my God. Please no.
I was flipping through the TV and came upon an old episode of MASH. The mewly mouth liberal Mike Farrell was in it, and I was reminded of what a big Free-Mumia guy he was. I was nauseated.
Tavs says: to destroy MY credibility.
:lmao: :loser:
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Because:
Dorner happens to be black (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130208/DA4ACA2G2.html)
he must have a message to tell, or something. Meanwhile, (D)Ummies continue to tie themselves into a massive Gordian knot.
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This is the next Mumia. Mark my words.
Let's hope he's the next Trayvon.
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Tavs thinks someone is trying to ruin his credibility?
:rotf:
You could not make this stuff up.
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Tavs thinks someone is trying to ruin his credibility?
:rotf:
You could not make this stuff up.
No, you can't make it up; it's just too incredible to think that the Taverner primitive has credibility.
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Christopher Dorner's Manifesto, praises lefties.
Willie Geist, you're a talented and charismatic journalist.
Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Pat Harvey, Brian Williams, Soledad Obrien, Wolf Blitzer, Meredith Viera, Tavis Smiley, and Anderson Cooper, keep up the great work and follow Cronkite's lead.
http://laist.com/2013/02/07/christopher_dorners_manifesto_in_fu.php
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So, the real story is the corruption of the LAPD? Who runs L.A.? Who runs California?
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Taverner (52,041 posts)
8. Because he is a man without a voice
I am not excusing what he did
But the real story is about the LAPD, not this guy
What is the LAPD hiding, and why?
He wrote a 20 page manifesto how much more of a voice does he need?
Cindie
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No, you can't make it up; it's just too incredible to think that the Taverner primitive has credibility.
Among viruses, maybe. Anything else, to include single-celled organisms, forget about it.
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nadinbrzezinski (115,940 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022338498
19. The kickee was found non reliable due to mental problems
You know how many times this happens? I was a medic in Tijuana, one thing the Federales hated was municipal cops calling an ambulance. There is a similar dynamic here.
When they lovingly treated a detained reason with mental issues getting to the truth was next to impossible. That witness was already sort of disqualified.
Perhaps that experienced with another "honest cops" color my impressions. This s not limited to the LAPD. But serious that detail of mental status is like critical. People with mental issues are regularly dismissed by police agencies and courts, not just in the US.
Take that into account.
But at this point this goes well beyond Doerner...well beyond.
:stoner:
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nadinbrzezinski (115,940 posts)
9. Read the unedited uncensored copy of the manifesto.
Last edited Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:49 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
I promise, names...sadly, are in there.
The Corona cops and Riverside, that was after the manhunt started.
I am not justifying this, but if you bother reading the non censored version...you will realize they were not random. First rule in a case like this...is reading the manifesto, which I might add, ain't rambling.
I can't say it was a short read...but hey...I took the time.
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nadinbrzezinski (115,940 posts)
17. Alas this is much beyond Doerner
He is no hero, let me correct this, he is a tragic hero in the fictional setting.
But I stopped fixing my eyes on Doerner. Though his explanation for his actions are again in the manifesto, while I won't justify it, alas it is very much internally consistent.
One weeps for society...
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nadinbrzezinski (115,940 posts) http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022338498
Perhaps that experienced with another "honest cops" color my impressions. This s not limited to the LAPD. But serious that detail of mental status is like critical. People with mental issues are regularly dismissed by police agencies and courts, not just in the US.
Take that into account.
But at this point this goes well beyond Doerner...well beyond.
Huh? But yeah...mental issues go well beyond Dorner alright. Right to ex-Tijuana medics turned reporter. :panic:
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Perhaps that experienced with another "honest cops" color my impressions. This s not limited to the LAPD. But serious that detail of mental status is like critical.
I have a headache.
This is how she was in February/March a couple of years ago.
People were saying she couldn't possibly keep the craziness flowing at this rate for an entire year.
Yes, she can.
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ABC News reports that Dorner cruelly taunted Mr Quan last Thursday - four days after he allegedly murdered his daughter and 11 hours after he allegedly shot three police officers - one of them fatally.
A man claiming to be Dorner reportedly called the grieving Mr Quan and told him he 'should have done a better job of protecting his daughter.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276671/Christopher-Dorner-1-million-reward-Killer-cop-called-victims-father-taunt-death.html#ixzz2KbPCWL00
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Only the DUmpmonkies would appreciate a guy like this.
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Former Police Psychologist Analyzes Christopher Dorner’s Manifesto
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Former-Police-Psychologist-Analyzes-Christopher-Dorners-Manifesto-190306351.html
Sounds like someone with a chip on their shoulder.
:mental: :mental: :mental: :mental:
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I had been wanting to point something out about the posts of our favorite drug addict and dead beat dad. Juxtapose these comments about Officer Charcoal Briqutte
Taverner (52,041 posts)
I hope to dog they capture Christopher Jordan Dorner alive
He has a story to tell - and this is LA's worst kept secret
Things only got WORSE after Rampart
The LAPD is the most corrupt LEA in the country
Why? They have the best PR department in the world - ALL of Hollywood!
If a movie doesn't make the LAPD look good, they deny filming permits. Period.
Taverner (52,041 posts)
8. Because he is a man without a voice
I am not excusing what he did
But the real story is about the LAPD, not this guy
What is the LAPD hiding, and why?
Taverner (52,041 posts)
34. Does. Not. Matter.
Just because you are an asshole, doesn't make your message any less important.
Taverner (52,041 posts)
37. Yes - I would agree he is a narcisist
But his message is his message
Don't kill the messenger - ignore him
But pay attention to the message
against this regarding Ruby Ridge and Waco
Star Member Taverner (51,695 posts)
The FBI, ATF and LEO were blameless in Waco and Ruby Ridge
Stockpile guns, ammo and bombs and expect them to play nice? Please!
Leave gasoline around and when a fire starts, scream bloody murder?
Start pointing guns at LEO and I'm surprised ANYONE was left over.
They had it coming.
Discuss...
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,82819.msg1020856.html#msg1020856
Nothing earth shattering, just wanted to make sure everyone sees how consistently inconsistent the needle freak is. :-)