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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Happy Fun Ball on January 16, 2008, 10:56:03 AM
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 10:05 AM
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Bush exempts Navy from environmental law
Source: AP
WASHINGTON - President Bush exempted the Navy from an environmental law so it can continue using sonar in its anti-submarine warfare training off the California coast — a practice critics say is harmful to whales and other marine mammals.
The White House announced Wednesday that Bush had signed the exemption Tuesday while traveling in the Middle East.
The Navy training exercises, including the use of sonar, "are in the paramount interest of the United States" and its national security, Bush said in a memorandum.
"This exemption will enable the Navy to train effectively and to certify carrier and expeditionary strike groups for deployment in support of worldwide operational and combat activities, which are essential to national security," the memo said.
flvegan (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 10:07 AM
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1. Refresh my memory...when did Bush get elected to the position of "God"?
Just after losing the election to Gore, he ran for 'God' and won that easily (with the help of Rove, of course).
Tellurian (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 10:19 AM
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2. More dead marine animals..
What a load of malarky! Bush is using this "new" high frequency sonar for oil exploration in the ocean depths. This higher tech sonar used by the Navy ruptures the ear drums of whales and porpoises not only leaving them deaf but unable to navigate their way through the ocean. Leaving them little choice other than beaching themselves until they die.
GreenPeace...where are you?
Javaman (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 10:23 AM
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3. he* said this over his* fresh blubber breakfast. nt
They* seem* to* be* overusing* the* asterisk* a* bit* much*, don't* you* th*in*k*?
Lorien (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 10:24 AM
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4. Asshole. n/t
Mika (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 10:30 AM
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5. Bush declares war on marine life.
Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 10:38 AM
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6. So does this apply in his new "marine sanctuary" in Hawai'i?
Was that also just greenwashing?
Greenwashing... is that like environmentally friendly brainwashing or something?
Magleetis (780 posts) Wed Jan-16-08 10:50 AM
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8. He really likes
to kill things. He is Satan.
rockybelt (891 posts) Wed Jan-16-08 10:57 AM
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9. It's in the paramount interests of the United States
to impeach this mo%^$r ****er and get him and his boss, cheney out of office and shipped off to The Hague where they belong.
Sorry, not happening.
TellTheTruth82 (21 posts) Wed Jan-16-08 11:05 AM
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10. Oh, come on...
Can't the whales read that the areas are dangerous and that they should stay out?!
TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 11:10 AM
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11. What allows him to sign such an exemption? Was it a bill passed by Congress?
By what fiat can the president tell someone, "The law does not apply to you?" The very same fiat that * has claimed for the last 7 years and which Congress has not had the gonads to challenge?
And he signed the 'fiat' with a Halliburton brand fountain pen in the shape of an oil well and filled with bald eagle blood.
LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 11:16 AM
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12. Words can not describe how much I hate him.
Please, try. We all need a good laugh.
The Stranger (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 11:49 AM
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16. Tell the Nancy Disaster that she is enabling the destruction of wildlife off her state's shores.
What an utter, utter and total fiasco of a speaker.
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How come it is the DUmmies always automatically accept "Critic's say" as all the research they need on a subject?
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Idiot's....every last one of them.
What a load of malarky! Bush is using this "new" high frequency sonar for oil exploration in the ocean depths.
WTF? :mental: :mental: :mental:
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. More dead marine animals..
What a load of malarky! Bush is using this "new" high frequency sonar for oil exploration in the ocean depths. This higher tech sonar used by the Navy ruptures the ear drums of whales and porpoises not only leaving them deaf but unable to navigate their way through the ocean. Leaving them little choice other than beaching themselves until they die.
Whales and porpoises should have a choice as to when/where they die??? :mental:
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 10:07 AM
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1. Refresh my memory...when did Bush get elected to the position of "God"?
I was under the impression you DUmp monkeys don't believe in God.
Oh how this new development must suck for you. :evillaugh:
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. More dead marine animals..
What a load of malarky! Bush is using this "new" high frequency sonar for oil exploration in the ocean depths. This higher tech sonar used by the Navy ruptures the ear drums of whales and porpoises not only leaving them deaf but unable to navigate their way through the ocean. Leaving them little choice other than beaching themselves until they die.
Whales and porpoises should have a choice as to when/where they die??? :mental:
Yes, unlike the human unborn.
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. More dead marine animals..
What a load of malarky! Bush is using this "new" high frequency sonar for oil exploration in the ocean depths. This higher tech sonar used by the Navy ruptures the ear drums of whales and porpoises not only leaving them deaf but unable to navigate their way through the ocean. Leaving them little choice other than beaching themselves until they die.
Whales and porpoises should have a choice as to when/where they die??? :mental:
Dumbass.................It's a LOW Frequency sonar that is being blamed on these whale, dolphin strandings.................The NRDC is cherry picking and looking for..........oh wait their just like the DUmmies and Truthers, nevermind
OMG, did you now in NC in the early 1800's.............
Nineteenth Century & Early 1800's
Daniel Heady, a sea captain, and four generations of his family hold title to the island and build a house and whale processing station which operates until the Civil War. They never actively hunted whales, but there were enough whale strandings to support a small processing station.
Damn that Bush and his evil Sonar
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the safety of people over the theory that whales may beach themselves over sonar tests. what a novel idea. :whatever:
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Damn that Bush and his evil Sonar
I'm just pissed off because they released the VRWC Whale Beaching Machine without letting anyone know it was coming out.
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Damn that Bush and his evil Sonar
I'm just pissed off because they released the VRWC Whale Beaching Machine without letting anyone know it was coming out.
You're pissed....................hell I'm pissed that they let it out at the turn of the 19th century for commercial use. Damn Bush and corporate greed
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How come it is the DUmmies always automatically accept "Critic's say" as all the research they need on a subject?
Because it supports their collective case of BDS.
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Oh my..................
Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 03:19 PM
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35. Hmmm, sure. But where's the particular sonar-related emergency in this case?
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 03:22 PM by Ghost Dog
For me, the claimed all-embracing "worldwide operational and combat activities, which are essential to national security" just doesn't cut it.
ed. I mean, this has to be somehow related to potential forthcoming Persian Gulf ops, right?
WTF??
Bonobo (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 12:06 PM
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21. Does this mean Captain Watson will go after them?
They probably kill more dolphins and whales than the Japanese. And they are closer too! No need to waste gas, pollute the environment and endanger lives!
Oh, but that wouldn't be as fun as pretending to be a rime-coated, "at-grace with the sea" pirate.
Arrr, me hearties!
What nonsense....................idiocy
AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 12:45 PM
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25. It amazes me that I can still experience stepped-up outrage that
makes the pit of my stomach get tight and sick with anger.
All that is good and beautiful is embodied in animals. God's perfect work.
H2O man wrote a piece recently about the danger of hating. As usual he was eloquent, perfectly describing what hating does to the soul of a person.
But I simply cannot separate the sin from the sinner when I see Bush and Cheney and the extreme damage they are doing to our country, the environment, the economy and our children's futures.
They represent and embody that concept of pure EVIL.
Recommend this for increased visibility so that DUers can get their full portion of anger stoked once again.
If only our collective hatred could singe those revolting assholes' hides.
Showing the love, waterboard for thee not for me
dbackjon (1000+ posts) Wed Jan-16-08 01:06 PM
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28. **** HIM - IMPEACH NOW
That asshole is NOT above the law. He needs to be waterboarded, and detained at Gitmo for the rest of his life.
Plucketeer (514 posts) Wed Jan-16-08 03:52 PM
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37. Wholly CRAP!
The "Decider" decides again! Too bad we can't decide to waterboard this dolt!
:loser:
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Whale ... it's what's for dinner!
Well, if you're Norwegian or Japanese, anyway.