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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Texacon on January 31, 2013, 10:26:02 AM
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Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:33 PM
AverageMe (20 posts)
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The root of all problems with guns
I was doing a reply to the post about "Cops handcuff and interrogate boy, 7, for hours over missing $5: family" http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022285356 when I realized I had presented the perfect case why assault rifles should be banned. I was talking about my son:
I do not believe in corporal punishment. I take away things he wants and send him to his room, but he still does not listen, or attend school if he feels he has something better to do. He is now 15 and I am very worried about him. He hits his *girlfriend* and always gets in fights that are *never his fault*. What can I do. I have sent him to psychiatrist but he will not talk to them. He knows I will never hit him, so he has no respect for me or anyone. A little police terror might get his attention.
I have been dealing with this for five years. He knows that I love him, and he is not a bad kid. He just loses his temper rapidly when he feels he is disrespected. Why he hits his girlfriend, I do not know, he certainly did not learn that from me. He is a good looking, even handsome, boy and she gets jealous when he talks with other girls. He says she has to know her place. I tell them both, they are too young to be more then friends, but it goes in one ear and out the other and never stops in the brain. I think I have spoken to every therapist in town. He is smart and he knows it, gets straight A's in school, although he does not attend half the time, and dismisses therapy as just being mumbo-jumbo. If you take every bad thing you heard about Mitt bossing people around when he was young, that is my son. The world has to follow his rules, he does not have to follow the world's rules. This is why I wish the police would put a little respect and terror in him. I do not know what I can do!!!
I have never been a gun owner and have no weapons in my home. My son has never shown an interest in guns. But what kind of fear would I live in if I had weapons in my home and my son had an interest in guns. This is something we should think about. My son is not crazy, he gets into a lot of fights but it has never been something bad enough to involve the police. He does not fight on school grounds. Right now it only involves bloody noses and black eyes, but what if he had access to an AR-15.
Holy Smoke!! This 'tard can't control his own 15 year old kid so we must take firearms away from EVERYONE! I got news for you DUmmie, it isn't the government that should be putting respect into YOUR kid. If I found out my son had ever hit a woman/girl he would have an ass whooping coming from me and if I couldn't do it I would pay someone to do it for me.
AverageMe (20 posts)
12. I am his Step-father and entered his life when he was eight years old
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His mother had to work and he was raised by his grandmother for his first eight years. I am 16 years older then his mother and tried to be a friend to her three children first. I have never had any children of my own, before becoming a father to them. I always respected them as little people who can be reasoned with and never said "because I said so". I never lost my temper with them and always explained why they were being punished. This is one reason I do not understand his issues with anger, he was the middle child, and I have never had any problems with the other two. I was never religious so I did not require the go to church, although their grandmother was very religious and I know they went to church when they lived with her.
Yeah, that's what all parents need to do ... be there kids friend(s). :whatever:
You can't always reason with a child DUmmie. They are children and YOU are supposed to be teaching them.
I don't think DUmmies will ever realize that some people are just bad. There are some people who just are evil and there is no other way to explain it.
Star Member backwoodsbob (4,333 posts)
36. sorry but...he sounds like a sociopath
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you seriously need to get him help.
Best of luck
My thoughts exactly except for the 2nd part. You can't help a sociopath. That's one of the evil ones I was talking about above.
Here's a fun exchange!
GreenStormCloud (9,266 posts)
3. Why should you take my guns away from me, because your son is troubled? N/T
AverageMe (20 posts)
6. Because people like my son exist
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My son is not the only *troubled" young man out there. To many people he is very successful and is a role model. They have no idea the number of fights he gets into.
GreenStormCloud (9,266 posts)
27. Anyone who has been convicted of a violent crime should be on the NICS list.
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At present, due to age, he can't legally buy a gun. His GF should press charges against him for hitting her. And laws on who is on the NICS list should be broadened.
But that is no reason to try to take my guns away from me. I am now a senior citizen and have been around guns for my entire life with no problems.
That's right. This kid should be a felon and never allowed to own guns! I somehow don't think this 'parent' is going to be up for that though. He doesn't want the kid to be punished, the rest of us need to be punished.
KharmaTrain (30,067 posts)
22. The Root Of The Problems Right Here...
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Instead of looking at what might be a turbulent person who would abuse a weapon and end up taking someone's life, all that matters is "taking MY guns away from ME". There's nothing in that post that mentions that, but it's the leap that's automatically taken when a situation like this is brought up. The son of the poster sounds like someone who should be monitored for anger issues and could be a danger if allowed to legally purchase a weapon. A strong case for both background checks, but all that is being "interpreted" here is .we're gonna "grab guns". Yet another example of people talking past one another and why this murdering spree will continue...
Ok, I guess KT here has a reading comprehension problem and missed this part of the OP;
when I realized I had presented the perfect case why assault rifles should be banned. I was talking about my son:
KharmaTrain (30,067 posts)
24. Cause He Has An Opinion...
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...and while decorum around this place has gone to shits, I still like to afford the person the benefit of the doubt. So do you think his son should be allowed to purchase or own a firearm? I don't care if its automatic, semi-auto or instant reverse...it's still a gun in dangerous hands. There's the issue...or do you think gun laws should be one-size fits all?
Uhm how about NO you DUmbass. This kid should be turned into the cops for abuse of his girlfriend and he should not be allowed to own firearms! There are laws to prevent this sociopath from owning but they are being skirted because no one is calling the cops.
Watch how this evolves into it's the 'gun owners fault'!
Myrina (8,003 posts)
28. ... until he breaks into your house and steals your gun ...
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... and takes it (along with other fun stuff he's stolen and stockpiled) to a shopping mall or other crowded place & wreaks havoc.
Then what?
Then the little son of a bi**h gets put on death row because no one cared enough to turn his ass in when they had the opportunity!
There's more and it's probably going to grow.
KC
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Hacknumbers comes close.
Response to Myrina (Reply #28)
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:02 AM
hack89 (18,941 posts)
31. If you want 100% guarantees I can't help you
you pass good laws and enforce them as well as you can. What reasonable laws would prevent your scenario?
This primative is moving up in posts.
Response to AverageMe (Original post)
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:22 AM
actslikeacarrot (90 posts)
35. so you KNOW he has physically assaulted...
...his girlfriend yet you didn't call the police? Do it next time, show him that actions have consequences. You may just save his, and her life!
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You missed the best post of the thread.
TheKentuckian This message was hidden by Jury decision. Hide
32. You raised a violent **** who beats women. I'm not catching a beating because you indulged him and
make lame ass excuses, I'd shoot his ass if it came to it or stab him or bash his head. Self defense is a prime directive natural right. **** your woman beating, bully piece of shit. He is part of the reason people need weapons not an advertisement for gun control. It sounds like you want your boy to be able to beat folks without any serious risk as much as anything while weakly wishing someone else would do something about him while doing no harm.
He ought to know that you'll potentially take him out for beating on the girl but you aren't going to do shit but lament and try to make his attacks less risky to him under a phony guise of concern for others.
Fix the monster you helped create rather than assault our natural right to self defense.
A Jury voted 5-1 to hide this post on Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:50 AM. Reason: This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See Community Standards.)
I may or may not have been on that Jury.
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You missed the best post of the thread.
I may or may not have been on that Jury.
Aha, that's the hidden post I saw.
Wondered what that was about.
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You missed the best post of the thread.
I may or may not have been on that Jury.
OMG!! I'm so glad you caught that one! I saw it just as I migrated out of the page and immediately went back to grab it but they took it down.
^5!
KC
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Why in the hell did they hide that magnificent post?!
The whole thread is shocking, frankly.
He knows that I love him, and he is not a bad kid.
Yes he is. He's a bad kid, a bad person, a psychopath. He's dangerous and needs to be removed so he can't harm others.
The thread is a pretty good advertisement for why we all should have guns to protect ourselves from ****s like this.
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The thread is a pretty good advertisement for why we all should have guns to protect ourselves from ****s like this.
And I use DUmmie logic on it. It's because HE can't be a DAD! HE wants to be a FRIEND.
If liberals *spit* can blame shootings on the weapon or the home owner who had their weapon stolen rather than the whack job that committed the crime then I can blame the whack jobs parents for not raising their child as they should have!
KC
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A couple of years ago, my son and I had just finished cleaning all my "guns" when his friends came over. The guns were lined up along the wall and spread out on the table. Son's friends got all big eyed and taken aback about the guns being in the open. They went to school telling all their friends that *****'s daddy is a gun nut.... :lmao:
Oh and by the way, I told my son when he was small that if he did wrong I would whip his ass and I meant it....I've only had to whip him twice in almost 18 years. You don't have to whip them if you let them know that you will and that you're serious about it.
I can hear the tick-tick-tick of a DUmmie hitting the keys on a phone to report me to DSS now. :-) Well, that's alright, I'll whip DUmmie's ass when I get out of jail.
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The kid is smart, good looking, hits women, gets into fights and doesn't show respect for authority.
oooh boy, what a combination. That's a disaster waiting to happen.
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The kid is smart, good looking, hits women, gets into fights and doesn't show respect for authority.
oooh boy, what a combination. That's a disaster waiting to happen.
Sounds like a Hollywood type
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The kid is smart, good looking, hits women, gets into fights and doesn't show respect for authority.
oooh boy, what a combination. That's a disaster waiting to happen.
The bolded part describes the typical DUmmy.
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The thread is a pretty good advertisement for why we all should have guns to protect ourselves from ****s like this.
Yup, give the girlfriend a gun, bet he stops hitting girls.
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AverageMe
... so he has no respect for me...
He's not the only one.
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Won't be long & he will be on DU bitching about the punk smacking the crap out of him. OWN IT!!!
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Why in the hell did they hide that magnificent post?!
The whole thread is shocking, frankly.
Yes he is. He's a bad kid, a bad person, a psychopath. He's dangerous and needs to be removed so he can't harm others.
The thread is a pretty good advertisement for why we all should have guns to protect ourselves from ****s like this.
If the kid even exists!
Cindie
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The kid is smart, good looking, hits women, gets into fights and doesn't show respect for authority.
oooh boy, what a combination. That's a disaster waiting to happen.
Ted Bundy in the making.
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Ted Bundy in the making.
He's already made.....just waiting for a victim.
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This bouncy is just too perfect, too stereotypically DUmpmonkey, too easy to laugh at.
I say noob DUmmy AverageMe is a troll, and his bouncy is making fun of the DUmbasses.
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The kid is smart, good looking, hits women, gets into fights and doesn't show respect for authority.
oooh boy, what a combination. That's a disaster waiting to happen.
Ted Bundy in the making.
Or worse...
(http://i2.listal.com/image/4204688/600full-bill-clinton.jpg)
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This bouncy is just too perfect, too stereotypically DUmpmonkey, too easy to laugh at.
I say noob DUmmy AverageMe is a troll, and his bouncy is making fun of the DUmbasses.
I dunno. I know many so called parents more concerned about being their kids "bestests buddy" than being a Parent. They will talk smack about and talk down about kids doing things meanwhile making excuses and/or laying blame on others when their kids do the same things.
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Yup, give the girlfriend a gun, bet he stops hitting girls.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
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If the kid even exists!
Cindie
I'm with you on this, Cindie . . . the DUmb**** in the OP is just the type that would ask his 'baby momma' to abort any 'clump of cells' that resulted from their . . . 'union.'
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Not that I disagree with anyone her but we all know how the left sees their kids. They won't hold them to any kind of responsibility and anyone that does should be arrested and jailed. They don't want them in hospitals either because it's more important to have crazy people running loose rather in places where they can't harm anyone So all the talk of putting them away and all the things we think are better for them and us are useless as long as the Democrats and the ACLU get their way and more people die because of it.
Another thing is maybe we should start cutting down on giving out paroles to those with a violent past and more then a few arrest. Seems like a lot of these kinds of convicts are out causing more trouble then it's worth in the hope they learned their lessons. We need better enforcement of the laws we have and if needed more prisons. Talk about a shovel ready job market.
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The kid is smart, good looking, hits women, gets into fights and doesn't show respect for authority.
oooh boy, what a combination. That's a disaster waiting to happen.
Probably be featured on "ID" channel within five years.
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This bouncy is just too perfect, too stereotypically DUmpmonkey, too easy to laugh at.
I say noob DUmmy AverageMe is a troll, and his bouncy is making fun of the DUmbasses.
You out all my moles!