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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: txradioguy on January 23, 2013, 12:32:55 PM
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WASHINGTON – The House voted Wednesday for a short-term debt ceiling fix that would extend the country’s borrowing authority until May – while also applying a controversial provision that would suspend lawmakers’ pay if they don’t pass a budget by April.
The move, if approved by the Senate, would buy lawmakers some breathing room to hammer out details for a more permanent solution.
The White House said it would sign the bill if it cleared Congress. Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid indicated his caucus would accept the bill as is – though on the House side, Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi announced she was opposing it.
The move lifts the immediate threat of the country going into default but does little to address the larger issue.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/23/house-votes-debt-ceiling/
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****sticks. Every ******* one of them that voted for that piece of shit legislation.
As if I'm going to actually BELIEVE that they're going to suspend their pay if they don't pass a budget.
Bullshit.
I want to know how my congresscritter voted on this shit. I warned her once to stop kicking the ******* can.
They keep talking about "catastrophic consequences" when/if the gov't defaults and can't pay its bills. Let it burn, baby. Let it happen on the Dem watch and let's see just how happy the asshats are who put Barry and his butt buddies back in power.
:argh:
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****sticks. Every ******* one of them that voted for that piece of shit legislation.
As if I'm going to actually BELIEVE that they're going to suspend their pay if they don't pass a budget.
Bullshit.
I want to know how my congresscritter voted on this shit. I warned her once to stop kicking the ******* can.
They keep talking about "catastrophic consequences" when/if the gov't defaults and can't pay its bills. Let it burn, baby. Let it happen on the Dem watch and let's see just how happy the asshats are who put Barry and his butt buddies back in power.
:argh:
It passed 285-144 on a roll call vote. But that's as far as I can dig at Congressional Quarterly without a subscription. They've got a list of who voted how...but I can't get to it.
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http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll030.xml
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Dammit my Rep...Mike Conway voted for the damn thing. :censored:
Paul Ryan did too.
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I'm sure this will get the GOP more Conservative votes.
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http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll030.xml
Thanks for the link. My ex CongressCrfitter voted Nay. Way to go Ted Poe. My new Critter voted Yay. So much for being a 'conservative', Weber. Fail.
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Dammit my Rep...Mike Conway voted for the damn thing. :censored:
Paul Ryan did too.
Who expected differently from Ryan? This is one of the fellers that was going to keep Mitzi in check? :muahaha:
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Who expected differently from Ryan? This is one of the fellers that was going to keep Mitzi in check? :muahaha:
Umm well I did for starters...
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Mine voted Aye. Sessions.
Odd...Wasserman Schultz voted No?
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Mine voted Aye. Sessions.
Odd...Wasserman Schultz voted No?
Rangel voted no too. Strange.
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Umm well I did for starters...
Many folks did. He fooled us all.
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Mine voted Aye. Sessions.
Odd...Wasserman Schultz voted No?
He's mine too.
So did Burgess, the Rep I interned for. Glad I'm not in the office this morning. Bet they're getting an earful.
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He's mine too.
So did Burgess, the Rep I interned for. Glad I'm not in the office this morning. Bet they're getting an earful.
Probably would make your current job look very boring today.
Ok. Pelosi, Shea Porter and Jackson Lee voted no too?
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Mine voted aye.................dammit.
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I don't have to look to know how Jim Cooper voted. :whatever:
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From the Wall Street Journal - one of today's Op-Eds (which I carefully read at lunchtime every day):
If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing while expecting different results, Republicans may be learning from political shock therapy. Speaker John Boehner's decision to postpone a debt-ceiling showdown is best understood as the GOP's attempt to break a cycle of manufactured crises that have worked to President Obama's advantage.
As early as Wednesday the House plans to vote to suspend the looming debt ceiling temporarily, allowing the Treasury Department to continue paying immediate obligations through May 19. The goal is to deny Mr. Obama his (false) talking points about national "default," while increasing GOP leverage in the spending debates.
Such strategic thinking isn't sitting well with some conservatives who seem to enjoy marching into the fixed bayonets. And then doing it again, and again. The critics are right that this is a retreat from Mr. Boehner's 2011 "rule" that the GOP will only raise the debt limit by as much as Mr. Obama agrees to cut future spending over 10 years. But Mr. Obama isn't going to agree to that, and the GOP hasn't done nearly enough to prepare the public for such a showdown.
Mr. Boehner's tactical retreat buys some time and puts more spending pressure on Democrats. The automatic sequester cuts that Congress agreed to in 2012 will arrive on March 1, causing an immediate cut of $69 billion in discretionary spending, to $974 billion. While this is modest in a nearly $4 trillion federal budget, and largely spares entitlements, Democrats and their spending tongs are already shouting in protest. Which is the political point.
The GOP's plan is to make clear that the only way for Democrats to forestall these cuts is to agree to longer-term and more sensible spending reforms. Meanwhile, the government's ability to fund itself (the "continuing resolution") runs out on March 27. Mr. Obama and his party can either engage with the GOP on serious debt talks or contemplate a series of continuing resolutions that lock in sequester spending levels through the next election.
Mr. Boehner is also adorning this debt-ceiling delay with legislative language that requires the House and Senate to pass budget outlines, or see their pay withheld. This is a shot at Harry Reid's Senate, which has not passed a budget in four years. The 27th Amendment bars a sitting Congress from varying its own compensation, so the House can at most withhold Members' pay until the end of the Congressional session—January 2015.
This is a political gimmick to be sure, and the Senate's many millionaires (Jay Rockefeller, Dianne Feinstein) may not care. But anything that forces Senate Democrats to begin showing their political priorities has its virtues.
The White House said on Tuesday that it will go along with the debt-ceiling delay if it passes. The Administration realized it could hardly complain it is being given the debt reprieve it asked for, and Mr. Reid recognized the embarrassment of blocking a proposal that requires him to do his budget job.
The bigger test for Republicans will come when the sequester kicks in and begins to squeeze defense. We agree this will do genuine harm, but at least the sequester will show that Washington can cut some spending. And there's zero chance Mr. Obama will concede on anything unless his own coalition feels real pain. As Commander in Chief, Mr. Obama also has a duty to protect national security.
Mr. Obama's refusal to bargain in good faith means we will have an extended war over spending for many months. Sometimes a tactical retreat is the smart play.
Okay. I'll be the first to admit that there are a couple of different ways of looking at any pile of shit that comes out of Washington, this particular one being the latest example.
WSJ calls this a "tactical retreat" in order to stave off the repeated, never-ending, crisis-management bullshit with which Barry and His Bastards continually box Boehner and His Bloviators into a corner.
WSJ is absolutely on target when they say that Barry will not concede on any point, but they're completely dipped in shit when they shrug their Wall Street suited shoulders and say that sequestration and squeezing the military is an acceptable thing, just to show the nation that Congress can actually stop spending money we don't have -- even for a nanosecond.
The military's an easy target, WSJ. Try again.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324624404578258221969657306.html
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Doesn't the senate have to vote on this? I'm not so sure they will pass it.
Mr. Boehner is also adorning this debt-ceiling delay with legislative language that requires the House and Senate to pass budget outlines, or see their pay withheld.
Harry Reid might not be to eager to be seen as giving into pressure.
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On paper this looks good, but we all know how it is going to play out. 3 months from now we will still have no budget and the dems will be whining about how evil the repukes are, then Bohner and the gang will fold like cheap suits again.
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What a bunch of puss!es Bonehead, Ryan and these RINO's are. How many times are these wimps going to kick the can down the road.
I said Ryan was second best when it came to the VP slot. Rubio would have put Mitt over the top IMO.
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It's all kabuki. I don't know why they don't just drop the act and just give Zero outright authority to spend at will. It would be more honest. In the meantime, your enslavement continues unabated.