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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on January 20, 2013, 08:54:12 PM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022226679
Oh my.
Whatever the "far right" is; I imagine the brain-damaged primitive includes everybody to the right of Pol Pot.
DainBramaged (36,478 posts) Sun Jan 20, 2013, 09:08 PM
Far Right Poses As Much Danger To The U.S. As Radical Islam
The West Point think tank known as the Combating Terrorism Center has issued a paper on the dangers posed by the far right in this country, specifically people who espouse “civil activism, individual freedoms and self-government,†and says that these people tend to be anti-federalist, white supremacist, and fundamentalist in their views.
According to the paper, liberalism, including that which is seen in other developed nations, looks forward to the future, while conservative movements, especially those here, look backward and cling to an idealized version of history. They also hold a belief that the government is inherently tyrannical and given to intruding on civil and constitutional rights as much as they can. According to the paper, these people initiated 350 attacks in 2011.
One of the core issues with the extreme right is that while they espouse individual freedom and like to try and spread fear regarding the government’s activities, they also seem to believe in a type of authoritarianism—one of the very things they profess to loathe in government—that includes a strong resistance to authority from what they view as “outgroups,†namely blacks and women, unions, and more.
They also seem to view the Constitution as a static document, unchanging despite the way society has changed over the last 230 years, and want laws made and judges to rule based on the original intent of the document. Here’s the issue with that: When it comes to the 2nd Amendment (for example), the original intent of the amendment was to preserve slavery. The words, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State…†refer to the freedom of white men in the southern states to own slaves, and to police those slaves with their militias as they saw fit. The original intent was not to ensure the people’s freedom from a tyrannical government, which is what every gun-rights activist espouses today
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/01/20/far-right-poses-as-much-danger-to-the-u-s-as-radical-islam/
indepat (18,273 posts) Sun Jan 20, 2013, 09:38 PM
3. And a 2009 Department of Homeland Security report identified domestic right-wing extremist groups as the greatest threat to America, its people and government, a greater threat than posed by Islamic extremists. Yet, efforts to stem the threat posed by domestic right-wing extremist groups seem meager when considering $100s of billions are expended annually to thwart any world-wide threat posed by Islamic extremists. Something is badly out of kilter here, especially when considering that our government reportedly targeted, harassed, and crushed the Occupy Wall Street movement, seemingly proclaiming that left-wing protest/dissent against the oligarchs and plutocrats is not protected under the First Amendment or will not be tolerated notwithstanding its constitutionality.
datasuspect (24,624 posts) Sun Jan 20, 2013, 09:39 PM
4. i wonder why the FBI mobilizes against left wing movements and not right wing movements?
By the way, one wonders if the brain-damaged primitive's taken a stroll down memory lane, clicking on links to his campfires posted in franksolich's "signature line."
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It's hard to believe that such creatures actually exist.
That's OK. When the economy goes into total ruin, they will starve and die anyway.
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**** off asshole. ::)
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DainBramaged (36,478 posts) Sun Jan 20, 2013, 09:08 PM
Far Right Poses As Much Danger To The U.S. As Radical Islam
The West Point think tank known as the Combating Terrorism Center has issued a paper on the dangers posed by the far right in this country, specifically people who espouse “civil activism, individual freedoms and self-government,†and says that these people tend to be anti-federalist, white supremacist, and fundamentalist in their views.
According to the paper, liberalism, including that which is seen in other developed nations, looks forward to the future, while conservative movements, especially those here, look backward and cling to an idealized version of history. They also hold a belief that the government is inherently tyrannical and given to intruding on civil and constitutional rights as much as they can. According to the paper, these people initiated 350 attacks in 2011.
One of the core issues with the extreme right is that while they espouse individual freedom and like to try and spread fear regarding the government’s activities, they also seem to believe in a type of authoritarianism—one of the very things they profess to loathe in government—that includes a strong resistance to authority from what they view as “outgroups,†namely blacks and women, unions, and more.
They also seem to view the Constitution as a static document, unchanging despite the way society has changed over the last 230 years, and want laws made and judges to rule based on the original intent of the document. Here’s the issue with that: When it comes to the 2nd Amendment (for example), the original intent of the amendment was to preserve slavery. The words, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State…†refer to the freedom of white men in the southern states to own slaves, and to police those slaves with their militias as they saw fit. The original intent was not to ensure the people’s freedom from a tyrannical government, which is what every gun-rights activist espouses today
That right there is one stupid individual.
Let me give the one with the damaged brain a better definition of liberalism than "looks forward to the future". Liberalism likes leaning forward to have something rammed up an orifice designed for egress instead of ingress.
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That right there is one stupid individual.
Uh, that went without saying.
But I guess it's okay to remind.
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Uh, that went without saying.
But I guess it's okay to remind.
Sometimes their stupidity seems to go beyond expectations. When I think they can't surprise me anymore they go "bazinga!"
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datasuspect (24,624 posts) Sun Jan 20, 2013, 09:39 PM
4. i wonder why the FBI mobilizes against left wing movements and not right wing movements?
Almost all violence perpetrated by extremists groups in the last 100 years have come from leftists. Care to name one violent action done by right wing extremists?
When it comes to the 2nd Amendment (for example), the original intent of the amendment was to preserve slavery. The words, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State…†refer to the freedom of white men in the southern states to own slaves, and to police those slaves with their militias as they saw fit. The original intent was not to ensure the people’s freedom from a tyrannical government, which is what every gun-rights activist espouses today
Bullshit, this racist crap never came up until some moonbat actor spouted it off and suddenly you loonies spread it like gospel. The fact is that gun control laws were devised by the left to keep the freed slaves from owning guns.
If "liberalism" looks to the future, then why do they keep wanting to try the same failed policies of the past?
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The lobotomized primitive is right, we are dangerous.
We are very dangerous to socialists, Marxists, and communists who want to take over this country.
We are dangerous to the democrat party because we will not sit down, shut up and allow them to create the socialist utopia they envision.
We are dangerous because every time the preezy says something then says something different later we remember what he said and we shout it out to anyone who will listen.
Informed patriotic Americans who know their rights are very dangerous to the fools on the left who want to destroy this country.
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Eco-terrorism is defined by the Federal Bureau of Investigation as "the use or threatened use of violence of a criminal nature against people or property by an environmentally oriented, subnational group for environmental-political reasons, or aimed at an audience beyond the target, often of a symbolic nature."[7] The FBI has credited to eco-terrorism 300 million dollars in property damage from 2003 and 2008, and a majority of states within the USA have introduced laws aimed at these activities.[8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eco-terrorism
Just one example you freaks, there isn't any right wing Eco-terrorist groups I can ****ing guarantee you that.
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Almost all violence perpetrated by extremists groups in the last 100 years have come from leftists. Care to name one violent action done by right wing extremists?
Bullshit, this racist crap never came up until some moonbat actor spouted it off and suddenly you loonies spread it like gospel. The fact is that gun control laws were devised by the left to keep the freed slaves from owning guns.
If "liberalism" looks to the future, then why do they keep wanting to try the same failed policies of the past?
That's because if you try the same stupid crap enough times, it will work. [/DU mode]
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It's hard to believe that such creatures actually exist.
That's OK. When the economy goes into total ruin, they will starve and die anyway.
Good.
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OMG - did you read this total bunk from West Point???
These tensions translate on the practical level: while far-right groups’ ideology is
designed to exclude minorities and foreigners, the liberal-democratic system is
designed to emphasize civil rights, minority rights and the balance of power.
You really need any more insight to where this is going?
http://www.ctc.usma.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ChallengersFromtheSidelines.pdf
The author:
(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5005948406793883&pid=15.1)
Dr. Arie Perliger
Class of 1977 Director of Terrorism Studies
arie.perliger@usma.edu
Curriculum Vitae
Expert Bio
–Special thanks to the West Point Class of 1977 for generously supporting this position-
Arie Perliger is the Director of Terrorism Studies at the Combating Terrorism Center and Assistant Professor at the Department of Social Sciences, US Military Academy at West Point. After completing his PhD in Political Science at the University of Haifa Israel (2007), where he was also a fellow at the National Security Studies Center (NSSC), Dr. Perliger became affiliated with the Department of Political Science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem as a Golda Meir Post-Doctoral Fellow (2007-2008). On August 2008 Dr. Perliger joined the Department of Political Science at the State University of New York at Stony Brook, where he was a Schusterman Visiting Assistant Professor until the summer of 2010.
In the past decade Dr. Perliger has studied extensively issues related to Terrorism and Political Violence, Politics of Security, Politics of the Far Right in Israel, Europe and the US, Middle Eastern Politics and the applicability of Social Network Analysis to the study of social phenomena. His studies appeared in four books and more than 20 articles and book chapters by publishers such as Columbia University Press, Rutledge, Security Studies, Social Forces and others.
Dr. Perliger is the co-editor of the journal Democracy and Security and a regular reviewer for various publishers and Journals such as Political Psychology, Critical Studies on Terrorism, Terrorism and Political Violence, Columbia University Press, Chicago University Press, Routledge and Polity Press.
Uh-huh.
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It seems to me that Obama has been sacking conservative Generals in the military and now the military academies are indoctrinating future offices in the leftwing ideology.
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It seems to me that Obama has been sacking conservative Generals in the military and now the military academies are indoctrinating future offices in the leftwing ideology.
It is more than disturbing.
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Good.
Apparantly, a lurking DUmmy didn't like my comment. I thank you for your agreement.
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It seems to me that Obama has been sacking conservative Generals in the military and now the military academies are indoctrinating future offices in the leftwing ideology.
It will take more than a commie instructor to change the mindset of people who volunteer for the pointy end of the spear.
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datasuspect (24,624 posts) Sun Jan 20, 2013, 09:39 PM
4. i wonder why the FBI mobilizes against left wing movements and not right wing movements?
Because the bullshit you retards drool over, is a lie? Because the DHS is a political tool consisting of Golden Parachute equipped statist bureaucrats? Because the "study" you cite was crafted by Leftist academics who ponder many questions, yet produce poor bowel movements and worry about them?
Just tryin' to help, Idiots... :popcorn:
Quote from: JohnnyReb on Today at 02:57:49 am
It seems to me that Obama has been sacking conservative Generals in the military and now the military academies are indoctrinating future offices in the leftwing ideology.
It will take more than a commie instructor to change the mindset of people who volunteer for the pointy end of the spear.
Up to O-6, I agree. After that, I do not trust them at all.
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If he's so worried about the far right then why does he choose to live in 1 of the reddest Counties in the State? and the US?