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Title: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: marv on January 18, 2013, 12:21:01 PM
Start here...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/17/west-point-center-cites-dangers-far-right-us/
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A West Point think tank has issued a paper warning America about “far right” groups such as the “anti-federalist” movement, which supports “civil activism, individual freedoms and self-government.”

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...and continue...http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/challengers-from-the-sidelines-understanding-americas-violent-far-right
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In the last few years, and especially since 2007, there has been a dramatic rise in the number of attacks and violent plots originating from individuals and groups who self-identify with the far-right of American politics.

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Here is the Dr.Arie Perliger (http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/experts/dr-arie-perliger).

Where does it all go? It all here...
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/277659-obama-versus-the-nra
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President Obama on Wednesday initiated a high-stakes gun-control fight with Congress and the National Rifle Association (NRA),...

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Obama and the White House made it clear they will enjoy a combative fight over the issue with Republicans,...

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The fight between Obama and the NRA also turned personal Wednesday, with a new NRA ad that accused the president of hypocrisy for having armed guards protect his daughters at school.

“Are the president’s kids more important than yours?” the ad’s narrator asks. “Then why is he ‘skeptical’ about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their school?”

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“The president has the most exciting campaign apparatus ever built,” former spokesman Robert Gibbs told MSNBC. “It’s time to turn that loose. It’s time to turn that loose for something more than just an election. If the NRA’s got a list, then Obama for America has a bigger list, and it is time to get activated again.”

Three guesses (the first two don't count) that hussein will try to use that "West Point study" against the NRA.
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: wasp69 on January 18, 2013, 12:24:07 PM
Three guesses (the first two don't count) that hussein will try to use that "West Point study" against the NRA.

Let him.
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: Ptarmigan on January 18, 2013, 12:27:32 PM
Funny thing is that historically the radical left is the one that engage many violent acts from assassination to terrorist bombings. Almost every terrorist bombing in America was linked to the radical left.
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: Freeper on January 18, 2013, 09:30:56 PM
Go on a military base and blow away a bunch of folks and we can't jump to conclusions, it's work place violence not terrorism.

Kill an American ambassador, and it was a video that 10 people watched that was the cause. No terrorism here either.

Say you are for the Constitution and they want to stick you in Gitmo.

 :banghead:

Another thing that pisses me off is when a sick bastard blows away a bunch of kids the preezy can't wait to go on the tee vee and talk about terrorism, yet when soldiers and their family members are killed in cold blood the preezy waits days before saying a word then starts off with a shout out to some medicine man, and still won't call it terrorism.  :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

And NO I'm not saying that 0bama was wrong for addressing the nation on Sandy Hook, I'm just pissed that Ft Hood didn't get the same attention.

 
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: marv on January 18, 2013, 10:10:47 PM
...and the worse is yet to come. God help us!
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: Teri on January 18, 2013, 10:46:43 PM
What Constitution, we've already been stripped of most of our rights with Obamacare and the NDAA.  Next is our guns...then the good ole U.S of A won't even exist any more when the UN takes over.
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 19, 2013, 07:48:51 AM
I've known some great West Point officers in my life.  Unfortunately they're the minority, most of them are self-important back-stabbing politicized cocksuckers who aren't nearly as good as they think they are, but have the gift of being in the world's dominant military and under the wing of the 'West Point Protective Association,' so their chance of ever failing and actually being held accountable for it is negligible.  Same with the faculty...some are great, many are pompous, deluded assholes.
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: 5412 on January 19, 2013, 08:25:42 AM
I've known some great West Point officers in my life.  Unfortunately they're the minority, most of them are self-important back-stabbing politicized cocksuckers who aren't nearly as good as they think they are, but have the gift of being in the world's dominant military and under the wing of the 'West Point Protective Association,' so their chance of ever failing and actually being held accountable for it is negligible.  Same with the faculty...some are great, many are pompous, deluded assholes.

Hi Tanker,

Don't hold back, please tell us how you really feel.

What galls me is how some become so political they throw any moral compass aside they might have and become liberal if there is a liberal in office.

regards,
5412
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: 17 Oaks on January 19, 2013, 08:45:18 AM
I've known some great West Point officers in my life.  Unfortunately they're the minority, most of them are self-important back-stabbing politicized cocksuckers who aren't nearly as good as they think they are, but have the gift of being in the world's dominant military and under the wing of the 'West Point Protective Association,' so their chance of ever failing and actually being held accountable for it is negligible.  Same with the faculty...some are great, many are pompous, deluded assholes.
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Some of the best and some of the worst I encountered over 26 years

If you want to read the actual report, here is a link to it in PDF:  http://www.ctc.usma.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ChallengersFromtheSidelines.pdf
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 19, 2013, 08:54:56 AM
I've known some great West Point officers in my life.  Unfortunately they're the minority, most of them are self-important back-stabbing politicized cocksuckers who aren't nearly as good as they think they are, but have the gift of being in the world's dominant military and under the wing of the 'West Point Protective Association,' so their chance of ever failing and actually being held accountable for it is negligible.  Same with the faculty...some are great, many are pompous, deluded assholes.

Probably appointed by liberal left wing congress critters.

Mod to add.....probably for the candidates very liberal views.
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: 17 Oaks on January 19, 2013, 10:00:35 AM
Start here...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/17/west-point-center-cites-dangers-far-right-us/
...and continue...http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/challengers-from-the-sidelines-understanding-americas-violent-far-right
Here is the Dr.Arie Perliger (http://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/experts/dr-arie-perliger).

Where does it all go? It all here...
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/277659-obama-versus-the-nra
Three guesses (the first two don't count) that hussein will try to use that "West Point study" against the NRA.

I have read the first 40 pages, this is BEYOND scary or frightening.  If you support the 2nd Amendment, are Christian, love America are concerned about the New World Order or the UN then you clearly are or have the potential to be a Right Wing Terrorist and I am only at page 40.  The author, grad class of 77 WP is grinding an axe the way I see it....

That said, this report was released on 15 JAN 2013....I find it very interesting and SMELL a link to the WHITE HOUSE here....

More later
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: Ptarmigan on January 19, 2013, 11:40:36 AM
Funny thing is that historically the radical left is the one that engage many violent acts from assassination to terrorist bombings. Almost every terrorist bombing in America was linked to the radical left.

Code: [Select]
date attack and location fatalities injuries
11 Sep 2001 crashing of hijacked planes into World Trade Center, New York City, New York, Pentagon in Alexandria, Virginia, and site in Pennsylvania 2,993 8,900
19 Apr 1995 truck bombing of federal building, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 169 675
16 Sep 1920 bombing near bank in New York City, New York 38 300
 1 Oct 1910 bombing at newspaper building in Los Angeles, California 20 20
 5 Nov 2009 shooting at Soldier Readiness Center at Foot Hood, Texas 13 43
 4 May 1886 bombing and riot at Haymarket Square rally in Chicago, Illinois 12 60
29 Dec 1975 bombing at airport in New York City, New York 11 75
22 Jul 1916 bombing at parade in San Francisco, California 10 40
 5 Aug 2012 shooting attack at Sikh temple, Oak Creek, Wisconsin 7 4
26 Feb 1993 truck bombing of World Trade Center, New York City, New York 6 1,040
 8 Jan 2011 shooting attack at political event, Tucson, Arizona 6 13

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255us.html

Interesting that all the deadly terrorist attacks in America are committed by the radical left ranging from Unions, Anarchists, Communists, Neo-Nazis, and Islamists. It even has Fort Hood Massacre as a terrorist attack.
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: Chris_ on January 19, 2013, 11:41:42 AM
I wouldn't say "interesting" so much as "predictable".
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: Ptarmigan on January 19, 2013, 11:42:39 AM
I wouldn't say "interesting" so much as "predictable".

Just gotta show facts and statistics. Three of the bombings occurred in Lower Manhattan, the 1920 Wall Street Bombing, 1993 World Trade Center Bombing, and 9/11.
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: 98ZJUSMC on January 20, 2013, 05:41:17 AM
I've known some great West Point officers in my life.  Unfortunately they're the minority, most of them are self-important back-stabbing politicized cocksuckers who aren't nearly as good as they think they are, but have the gift of being in the world's dominant military and under the wing of the 'West Point Protective Association,' so their chance of ever failing and actually being held accountable for it is negligible.  Same with the faculty...some are great, many are pompous, deluded assholes.

*ding ...ding ...ding* :thumbs:

Exactly.  I was fortunate in that most of the officers I came in contact with were Mustangs (prior enlisted)  or Warrants.  Most Canoe U. F*******S I dealt with were complete and total  :censored:.

If we have a constitutional situation in this country that pits the population against the Military, that is where the problem will lay.
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: BigTex on January 20, 2013, 10:27:41 AM

19 Apr 1995   truck bombing of federal building, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma   169   675


http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/wrjp255us.html

Interesting that all the deadly terrorist attacks in America are committed by the radical left ranging from Unions, Anarchists, Communists, Neo-Nazis, and Islamists. It even has Fort Hood Massacre as a terrorist attack.

Libertarian counts as radical left now?
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: Ptarmigan on January 20, 2013, 03:43:33 PM
Libertarian counts as radical left now?

Some radical libertarians are almost like the left in terms of kookiness.
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: BigTex on January 20, 2013, 03:56:15 PM
Some radical libertarians are almost like the left in terms of kookiness.

theres no doubt but trying to blame OKC on the "radical left" is dishonest there are clearly violent radicals on both sides (though obviously more on the left) and neither are acceptable
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: JohnnyReb on January 20, 2013, 05:48:41 PM
theres no doubt but trying to blame OKC on the "radical left" is dishonest there are clearly violent radicals on both sides (though obviously more on the left) and neither are acceptable

I think Tim McVeigh converted to Islam while in Iraq.....that's just me. He made several phone calls to Muslim terrorist in the Philippines before the bombing.
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: BigTex on January 21, 2013, 12:59:34 PM
I think Tim McVeigh converted to Islam while in Iraq.....that's just me. He made several phone calls to Muslim terrorist in the Philippines before the bombing.

while thats a possibility, he was a registered republican, voted libertarian, left buffalo because it was too liberal.

he said this during the Waco standoff

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The government is afraid of the guns people have because they have to have control of the people at all times. Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people. You give them an inch and they take a mile. I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist government. The government is continually growing bigger and more powerful and the people need to prepare to defend themselves against government control

sounds like many things you would see on this forum, I would say he was anything but far left.
Title: Re: The most frightening article I've ever come across...
Post by: Big Dog on January 21, 2013, 01:16:55 PM
Libertarian counts as radical left now?

There is a philosophy which is called "libertarian-socialist", and a related movement called "left-libertarian" by its adherents. Noam Chomsky calls himself a "libertarian socialist".

I am a Constitutional libertarian. I am of the opinion that libertarianism and socialism are mutually exclusive economic philosophies, and that "left-libertarianism" is an ontological impossibility.