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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on January 17, 2013, 08:13:28 PM
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Recursion (21,155 posts)
Movie heroes stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?
Last edited Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:40 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Action heroes all used to smoke, and now they don't. Even in period pieces where their not smoking would be absurd it gets made fun of. This stopped because of moral pressure.
Action heroes still shoot. Maybe they shouldn't. I'm not saying this would stop gun violence, anymore than smoking has stopped. I'm not even talking about non-violence, as cool as it is.
I teach fencing; I'd love to see a sword-based action movie come out. And there are plenty of martial arts movies where the hero has a taboo against guns. Why not make that be the Hollywood norm rather than gunfights.
I'm someone who has used guns professionally about half of my adult life, on farms and in the Marines. I am familiar with guns, I admire the engineering behind them, and I find them utterly tedious. (You have no idea how much cleaning they entail if you're not a gun person. Seriously.)
Imagine seeing a spreadsheet romanticized. That's kind of how I feel about guns being romanticized. We don't need to do that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022210620
Like we haven't wussified this country bad enough. Now the good guys in the movies will talk out their feelings with the bad guys until the bad guys turn themselves in. :whatever:
Travis_0004 (718 posts)
3. If you don't like shooting in movies, don't see it.
I like action movies. If they hire Jackie Chan as the next james bond, and he uses karate I'm going to be pissed.
Isn't that :waisis:
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Recursion (21,155 posts)
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I teach fencing; I'd love to see a sword-based action movie come out.
There's an old saying about bringing knives to a gun fight. :whistling:
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There's an old saying about bringing knives to a gun fight. :whistling:
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Speaking of smoking and movies, I have been on an old movie kick lately. I watched All About Eve and Mildred Pierce while I have been sick. Talk about smoking like crazy. Especially All About Eve. Bette Davis smoked like it was going out of style. It was kinda gross.
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Speaking of smoking and movies, I have been on an old movie kick lately. I watched All About Eve and Mildred Pierce while I have been sick. Talk about smoking like crazy. Especially All About Eve. Bette Davis smoked like it was going out of style. It was kinda gross.
Does that mean you quit? :???:
I thought you were already "smokin". :whistling:
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Recursion (21,155 posts)
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I teach fencing; I'd love to see a sword-based action movie come out.
You mean like the Zorro movies, The Three Musketeers, Pirates of the Caribbean, things like that?
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Does that mean you quit? :???:
I thought you were already "smokin". :whistling:
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By the way, I have never tried smoking. I know a lot of people here do but I personally think it is gross. If any of you men want to date me if our spouses leave us, you better stop smoking. :p
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By the way, I have never tried smoking. I know a lot of people here do but I personally think it is gross. If any of you men want to date me if our spouses leave us, you better stop smoking. :p
I always have Ballygirl to fall back on. :-)
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I always have Ballygirl to fall back on. :-)
You are no longer in the running :mad:
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Maybe the movies should quit glamorizing drugs. Just saying.
KC
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Right, I can see it now - Grindhouse presents "Hobo with a Water Pistol."
:whatever:
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You are no longer in the running :mad:
My own ball-and-chain agrees with you. O-)
Maybe the movies should quit glamorizing drugs. Just saying.
KC
That would be a good start.
After that, they can stop glamorizing misfits with firearms as being the answer to any persieved wrong doing.
The "wrong doers" of course, are always anybody in authority or the military.
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My absolute favorite movie is The Boondock Saints. Full of smoking, drinking, and guns :-)
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I teach fencing; I'd love to see a sword-based action movie come out. And there are plenty of martial arts movies where the hero has a taboo against guns. Why not make that be the Hollywood norm rather than gunfights.
How about Kill Bill I and II? No bloody gun violence. (Great movies.)
How about Texas Chainsaw Massacre. No violent Smith & Wesson, just Stihl and Husqvarna.
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How about Kill Bill I and II? No bloody gun violence. (Great movies.)
How about Texas Chainsaw Massacre. No violent Smith & Wesson, just Stihl and Husqvarna.
I "saw" what you did. :whistling:
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I'm someone who has used guns professionally about half of my adult life, on farms and in the Marines. I am familiar with guns, I admire the engineering behind them, and I find them utterly tedious. (You have no idea how much cleaning they entail if you're not a gun person. Seriously.)
I'm calling bullshit. :bs:
A). It's the very rare Jarhead that doesn't like firearms, wartime psychological issues notwithstanding. In fact, every combat vet I know, is a shooter, to a varying degree. I, myself, stopped hunting some years ago because I find the process of cleaning game tedious and I refuse to kill that which I do not plan to clean and eat.
B). The last thing they find them are tedious.
Fencing? Well.....plusing up your insufferable elitist (D)Umbass cred, eh?
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Recursion (21,155 posts)
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I teach fencing; I'd love to see a sword-based action movie come out.
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There's an old saying about bringing knives to a gun fight.
:-) :-)
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Jeffery Deaver tried that in "Carte Blanche", the last James Bond book. It sucked.
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You mean like the Zorro movies, The Three Musketeers, Pirates of the Caribbean, things like that?
I guess the DUmbass never saw this one either...
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How about Kill Bill I and II? No bloody gun violence. (Great movies.)
How about Texas Chainsaw Massacre. No violent Smith & Wesson, just Stihl and Husqvarna.
And what about Tucker & Dale vs. Evil? Just one bit of gun violence in that one and it was a self inflicted wound at that.
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Oh hell yes. :lmao:
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By the way, I have never tried smoking. I know a lot of people here do but I personally think it is gross. If any of you men want to date me if our spouses leave us, you better stop smoking. :p
Never tried it, and never intend to. O-)
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I can't wait for Star Trek.
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I can't wait for Star Trek.
I hope Kirk throws down his phasers and just talks with the bad guys I mean poor misunderstood victim.
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So, I'm home today (took a leave day to get the house ready for Velvet and the trainer). I'm sitting here, first cup of coffee in hand, reading the CC, and what did I see?
"Movie horses stopped smoking. Could they stop shooting?"
I said to myself, "Movie horses?"
(http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh610/elect-stevedawes/smokinghorse_zps112eed80.jpg)
Then the caffeine thawed out my brain a little.
"Oh, movie heroes."
Carry on.
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I'm thinking of an action film reduced to a DUmp bouncy...somehow I don't see that thought gaining much traction.
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I hope Kirk throws down his phasers and just talks with the bad guys I mean poor misunderstood victim.
You confusing Star Trek with Star Trek Voyager.
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You confusing Star Trek with Star Trek Voyager.
I worry about anyone who knows the difference.
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I am trying to calculate the odds of a liberal website with ~4000 members having a near Olympian fencer (Nads) and an instructor that teaches fencing. It wobbles the mind.
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Jeffery Deaver tried that in "Carte Blanche", the last James Bond book. It sucked.
I have all of the Fleming and Gardner books, the Kingsley Amis one, and almost all of the Raymond Benson James Bond books.
Jeffery Deaver? When I saw he was taking over the franchise, I thought WTF? Don't know if I want to read "Carte Blanche" now.
You need an Eric van Lustbader, Jim DeFelice, or better yet Ted Bell to write those books.
Maybe the fencing scene from "Die Another Day" was his inspiration for it, though.
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I am trying to calculate the odds of a liberal website with ~4000 members having a near Olympian fencer (Nads) and an instructor that teaches fencing. It wobbles the mind.
And I vaguely remember something about TiT's world-class Norwegian bikini downhill skiing team girlfriend. Wasn't she also a fencer?
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For the DUmmies
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXf6oYafHtQ[/youtube]
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You mean like the Zorro movies, The Three Musketeers, Pirates of the Caribbean, things like that?
The Count of Monte Cristo. :rocker:
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I am trying to calculate the odds of a liberal website with ~4000 members having a near Olympian fencer (Nads) and an instructor that teaches fencing. It wobbles the mind.
I'm a master fencer. Never tried out for the Olympics, though.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2570/4153379396_7c3125b4a2.jpg)
(http://sites.ararental.org/Portals/dandrental/Post%20Hole%20Digger%20Hand.jpg)
En garde'!
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By the way, I have never tried smoking. I know a lot of people here do but I personally think it is gross. If any of you men want to date me if our spouses leave us, you better stop smoking. :p
Does the occasional cigar count? :bawl:
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Does the occasional cigar count? :bawl:
Yeah, my question, too.
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:rotf: ChuckJ, I forgot about that guy! That little hat! :lmao:
Response to MrSlayer (Reply #51)
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:36 PM
Recursion (21,204 posts)
52. I'm jumping back to the cleaning idea
Show a firefight, but show in real time how long it takes to clean the weapon after.
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You know, even TominTib was over there, reminding them about box office returns. These movies are expected to, you know, earn a profit for the investors. You can make a movie showing granny knitting a sweater, but is anyone going to pay $15 to see it?
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The Count of Monte Cristo. :rocker:
Kill Bill I & II?
:whistling:
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I have all of the Fleming and Gardner books, the Kingsley Amis one, and almost all of the Raymond Benson James Bond books.
Jeffery Deaver? When I saw he was taking over the franchise, I thought WTF? Don't know if I want to read "Carte Blanche" now.
You need an Eric van Lustbader, Jim DeFelice, or better yet Ted Bell to write those books.
Maybe the fencing scene from "Die Another Day" was his inspiration for it, though.
Deaver's Bond is politically correct, sensitive, doesn't smoke, doesn't kill (flesh wounds), no martini. He's not James Bond, he's James Bland.
I used to love Deaver's books, but he's let his political views override his plots now.