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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on January 17, 2013, 05:56:03 PM
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Hugabear (9,563 posts)
Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
There shouldn't be any rational need to have more than 7 bullets loaded in your gun at any one time.
What if you're facing multiple bad guys? You can't expect people to defend against 3-4 bad guys with just 7 bullets! - this seems to be the primary argument from gun nuts.
What if, indeed.
What if you're facing an onslaught of meth addicts trying to break into your house? What if you have to face an entire street gang? What if civilization collapses, and you have to take on a roving band of marauders? What if the zombie apocalypse happens, and you're faced with a yard full of walkers?
What if?
The problem is that you can always come up with a reason to rationalize whatever you want. But how often are people going to be faced with situations that require more than 7 bullets?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022208435
The DUmmies seem to think that criminals all across the state of NY spent all day yesterday pulling those 3 rounds out of their 10 round magazines. :mental:
Do they seriously think that someone who will break the law by using a gun in an unlawful manner is going to only load 7 rounds at a time?
Frazzul (5 posts)
1. Because if a 30 round mag
"Saves even one life it's worth it." Isn't that usually your mantra?
DUmmies hate it when their own words are used against them.
Hugabear (9,563 posts)
6. Oh lookee here
I got myself a brand new gun nut! Don't worry, you have plenty of company here on DU. Enjoy your stay.
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16. yeehaw! (isnt that what we gun nuts say?)
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I got myself some new liberal buddies! Resorted to name-calling even faster than usual. I like your style! Pleased to meet you.
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EOTE (11,301 posts)
38. 30 round mags don't save lives, they take them.
At least they'll take far, far more lives than they could ever hope to save. Clear enough for ya?
:whatever:
Just because you fear guns is not a good enough reason to limit them to what you think they should have. When it comes down to it the only people you have to worry about with 30 rounds in a magazine are not going to obey the seven rule anyway.
davidn3600 (663 posts)
2. Can we include the police in this discussion?
Why do they need high capacity magazines?
Does it take more than 7 bullets a clip to subdue a suspect?
I understand the law in NY does limit the police to only 7 rounds too.
Jeff In Milwaukee (11,959 posts)
4. It does if the suspect has a 30-round clip (nt)
Now that there is a seven round max you won't have to worry about that will you? :whatever:
NCTraveler (1,037 posts)
7. I think that would be a reasonable limitation.
And should be agreed upon by the majority.
"There shouldn't be any rational need to have more than 7 bullets loaded in your gun at any one time."
That sentence is what should make it easy. They could have an extra 7 round back up clip.
Oh how generous of you allowing them to have a second seven round "clip", and here I thought you guys were going to be totally unreasonable. How long before we hear you don't need more than one magazine? :mental:
sylvi (405 posts)
20. How about a hypothetical?
You're sitting in a back room or wherever, reading or surfing the web at night. Your family is asleep upstairs. Suddenly you hear the door kicked in and angry voices. Strangers (not the cops) are breaking into your home. Or, let's throw out the plural "voices" all together. All you know is a person or persons unknown are coming in forcefully.
Beside you leaning against the wall is a rifle with seven round mag and an identical one with thirty.
Which one would you pick up? Why?
I wouldn't grab either, I would pick up a stool and throw it at the intruder. :-)
slackmaster (58,706 posts)
41. Che Guevara's M1 Carbine had 15-round magazines
But I guess you would write that off as "It was necessary" or some other lame rationalization.
hack89 (18,644 posts)
45. He was shooting people for a good cause. nt
The DUmmy didn't use the sarcasm thingy so I dunno if he is series or not.
Ladies and gentle smurfs what we see happening is our government slowly chipping away at the second amendment. For now they will say 7 bullets, then after the next "work place violence incident" it will go down to 5 then to 3 then to 1. I imagine they will limit the amount of magazines next. Meanwhile they will swoop in and make it so hard to buy a single gun that there will be few gun owners then when we are accustomed to not having guns they will be able to easily make that final move and ban all guns.
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In case you miss a lot while leading a target.
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You load ten so you can fire both five-round strings of the National Match Course rapid fire without fiddling around with ammunition.
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What reason do you have to limit the rights of people who pose no threat to you?
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So New York forgot to add the exemption for police, but the police union also wants an exemption for retirees. Um, why should police retiree's lives be any more valuable than other private citizens.
Will Secret Service be restricted to 7 rounds when Obama visits New York? Will the private security for UN ambassadors be limited to 7 rounds?
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Newsflash, numbnuts--my perfectly legal .45 caliber pistol is now ILLEGAL in the state of New York.
Why, you ask? Simple. The magazine holds eight rounds.
Thank God I live in a state that has a little common sense left (read: NOT NY.)
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What reason do you have to limit the rights of people who pose no threat to you?
See, now you're just using facts and logic on them. No fair.
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Hugabear (9,563 posts)
Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
Nadin "CQB" and then get back to me, you fat stupid hairy homo.
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The first one is a head shot, the other 6 are to make sure. Holy crap are they freaking stupid. I mean you are already going to have a mess to clean up. May as well make sure your gun is firing correctly on a barely dead target.
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Nadin "CQB" and then get back to me, you fat stupid hairy homo.
The Nadin machine turned this up.
Chiquita Brands International, Inc.
NYSE: CQB - Jan 17 4:02pm ET
Chiquita sells bananas, chimps like bananas so it's Bush's fault, right?
:-)
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Hugabear (9,563 posts)
Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
How many rabid, diseased, crazed, and dangerous-to-society individuals are members of DU?
Now imagine these individuals having a meet-up somewhere. They are doing their drugs. They are feeding off of each others craziness. Their faux courage surges along with their constant rage and hatred. As the frenzied pinnacle of lunacy is reached a normal, decent person happens to stumble into the gathering and says God bless you, Merry Christmas, I love America, or any similar phrase. When the attack starts does he wish he has 7 bullets or more than 7 bullets?
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The Nadin machine turned this up.
Chiquita sells bananas, chimps like bananas so it's Bush's fault, right?
:-)
You may be onto something there. Or on something. I'm not sure which.
:tongue:
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Hugabear (9,563 posts)
Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
:banghead: Bad guys never come at you more than one at a time.
:banghead: Without practice, reloading in CQB usually causes one to lose sight of the remaining targets, lose sight, lose the fight.
:banghead: If I have to use 7 out of 17 rounds in my Glock to neutralize the threat, I've demonstrated that I have used restraint in dealing with that threat. Are you DUmmies that are going to sit on my jury view it as restraint when I use all 7 of 7 rounds? I think we all know the answer too that!
:banghead: How many magazines will you be restricted to carrying?
:banghead: Arguing with a DUmmy is well, just as useful as banging my head on the wall.
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Hell, even my 12 guage holds more than 7 rounds.
5 00 buck, 3 rifled slugs.
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Hugabear (9,563 posts)
Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
(http://www.troll.me/images/courage-wolf/why-because-****-you.jpg)
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You don't have to explain a "need" before exercising a right.
That's why it's called a right.
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(http://www.troll.me/images/courage-wolf/why-because-****-you.jpg)
Works for me!
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You may be onto something there. Or on something. I'm not sure which.
:tongue:
Too much time watching the primitives, I can think like them now. :-)
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My 686 only has 7 rounds in it.
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hack89 (18,644 posts)
45. He was shooting people for a good cause. nt
That comment, right there, says why.
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Well lets ask the people that were defending their homes and businesses after the Rodney King riots or after A hurricane has blown down most of the city they live in. Or how about lets ask all the dead Mexicans that have dies from all the drug violence in a country that has harsher gun laws then we do if they would have liked to have had a chance to own a gun with a high capacity magazine.
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Lucas McCain knows...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IVCwYPjFXc[/youtube]
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Lucas McCain knows...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IVCwYPjFXc[/youtube]
:rotf: The nick-name I got tagged with several years ago at work, :lmao:
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Because there are more than seven hoodrats who look like the son the jug-eared muslim never had.
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Because there are more than seven hoodrats who look like the son the jug-eared muslim never had.
I had considered that. Huggybooboo has the number one off. Should be eight.
How ever. Obambi's sons rarely run in numbers that high.
2's, 3's, and 4's, seem to be more consistent.
Therefore, being a responsible conservative, and wishing to blindly follow the Grate Won, I propose this..
If two come through the door, I will redistribute my wealth to four each.
If four come through the door, I will evenly distribute to two, each.
Three could be a problem. Therefore, each gets two.
If one asks "please, sir, may I have another", I will give him/her/it one. Maybe two, if I feel generous.
Now everything is right with the world, and I feel good about myself.
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You don't have to explain a "need" before exercising a right.
That's why it's called a right.
And there we have the answer which you'll never see on the DUmp, because it's the right answer.
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Bullets are like oxygen.
You don't miss it till you need some.
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Since they think the 2nd amendment is about hunting I will give them a hunting reason. While trying to rid a friends farm of pest that were killing livestock I was coyote hunting at night with a wounded rabbit call when a a pack of about 20 coydogs rolled in. For the moonbats they are domestic/coyote cross that act more like wolves than coyote's. Well I was glad and maybe my life depended on having a 20 round magizine! I killed 5 before they gave up their hunt! Ever been the object of attention of a pack of wild dogs? I imagine its not much different than a pack of hood rats!
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Simple......because I'm lazy.
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(http://www.democraticunderground.com/avatars/che.gif) Hugabear (9,563 posts)
Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
There shouldn't be any rational need to have more than 7 bullets loaded in your gun at any one time.
To protect ourselves from Che-loving Communist pricks like you.
(http://doctorbulldog.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/murder-of-col-rojas-by-che-guevara.png?w=450&h=478)
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BTW, hugafag, you need to update your avatar. It's a little outdated.
Allow me to help:
(http://educationviews.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/che4.jpg)
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Because I want to be at least as well-armed as the carts Obama sold those guns to.
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Hugabear (9,563 posts)
Please do.
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Please do.
I don't think that means what you think it means.
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Hugabear (9,563 posts)
Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
Because the meth head breaking into my house to get cash for his next score isn't gonna stop coming at me with 7 rounds.
The MS 13 thugs trying to steal my 51" tv are gonna have way WAY more than 7 rounds.
A wime man here once said and I quote..."anything worth shooting once...is worth shooting twice."
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Because the meth head breaking into my house to get cash for his next score isn't gonna stop coming at me with 7 rounds.
The MS 13 thugs trying to steal my 51" tv are gonna have way WAY more than 7 rounds.
A wime man here once said and I quote..."anything worth shooting once...is worth shooting twice."
You don't stop shooting until they stop moving.
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You don't stop shooting until they stop moving.
A kid from my high school did that with a deer one time.
Not always a good idea.
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Hugabear
Why does anybody need more than 7 bullets at a time?
In case there are 8 primitives.
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Since they think the 2nd amendment is about hunting I will give them a hunting reason. While trying to rid a friends farm of pest that were killing livestock I was coyote hunting at night with a wounded rabbit call when a a pack of about 20 coydogs rolled in. For the moonbats they are domestic/coyote cross that act more like wolves than coyote's. Well I was glad and maybe my life depended on having a 20 round magizine! I killed 5 before they gave up their hunt! Ever been the object of attention of a pack of wild dogs? I imagine its not much different than a pack of hood rats!
^5 Up here we call them Coydogs. Nasty little buggers. Smart as hell and no fear of humans.
We do get reports of these pooches chasing kids home from the bus stop, they be hungry you know.
Our wonderful family visitors that come to spend summer vacations on our lakes will stop at the SPCA and get a dog for the kids to play with all summer. Time to leave they turn the poor dog loose to fend for itself and soon a pack of hungry domesticated dogs are running about, breeding and moving closer and closer to town to forage in the trash cans and dumpsters. Some times the coyotes inter breed -----out come the Coydog puppy's.
In the winter they chase down the pregnant Does as large snow fall makes it difficult to run for the deer but the lighter dogs have no problem. Just 3 of these cross breeds can attack an adult human being unarmed .
Guns are for protection, I imagine I have a better chance of being eaten all up by a bear while hiking then a 2 legged person breaking into my home.
Then in the city's, one has the druggies pit bulls that get loose. A 22 may or may not kill an attacking dog of that breed.
Damn it guns are not just for killing people, they are there to protect people from Anything that threatens you. a rabid fox, raccoon, dog or even a cat.
Rattle snake country, Python country, Alligator country, if one has kids that play in their yard even in Bear country, to have no way to protect them is child abuse. Liberals just get out there and try to protect your kids with a plastic lawn rake.
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You don't stop shooting until they stop moving.
And I never enter a gunfight with a handgun that doesn't have a caliber starting with 4
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Let me just put this here:
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:20 AM
trof (43,059 posts)
Sen. Bill Nelson's assault weapons ban poll needs some DU love.
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This poll is so our of whack that I am asking each of you to vote, even though Nelson may not be your senator. The gun lobby somehow must have figured out how to stack this poll against the reinstatement of the assault weapons ban.
http://www.billnelson.senate.gov/
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Gotta love FL we have one senator protecting the second amendment and then we have one trying to trample it.
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Let me just put this here:
http://www.billnelson.senate.gov/
It ain't the gun lobby freeping this poll. Folks here like their guns. I canceled out one DUmmy's vote.
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Gotta love FL we have one senator protecting the second amendment and then we have one trying to trample it.
Let Nelson go on one of those python hunts. Alone. With only 7 rounds. And only a handgun.
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Let Nelson go on one of those python hunts. Alone. With only 7 rounds. And only a handgun.
His body guard will have 30 in the magazine.
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It ain't the gun lobby freeping this poll. Folks here like their guns. I canceled out one DUmmy's vote.
You should just let DUmmy trof make all your decisions for you since he has the answer to everything.
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Let me just put this here:
http://www.billnelson.senate.gov/
The gun-grabbers still seem to be losing, oddly enough...
:whistling:
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The gun-grabbers still seem to be losing, oddly enough...
:whistling:
How long before that poll "disappears"?
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Let me just put this here:
http://www.billnelson.senate.gov/
When I voted, just a few minutes ago, here were the totals:
Yes 8334 12.42%
No 58631 87.38%
No Opinion 132 0.02%
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We are all Floridians today.
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Yes (8343 votes) 12.42%
No (58691 votes) 87.38%
No Opinion (132 votes) 0.2%
Total Votes: 67166
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You should just let DUmmy trof make all your decisions for you since he has the answer to everything.
Yeah I'm gonna let someone who needs the government to run his life decide anything for me.
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"Saves even one life it's worth it."
The standard moonbat whine.
So, outlaw the possession of tobacco.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw the possession of alcohol.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Nationwide speed limit 20mph.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw the consumption of table salt.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw swimming in water over two feet deep.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Mandate that all windows above first floor be sealed.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw the possession of motorcycles.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw ladders over six feet tall.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw sharp points on knives, and develop dullness standards.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw explosive natural gas in homes.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw alternating current.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
It's a short list of improvements, but it's a start, and if it saves even one life, it's worth it.
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Speaking of polls, here's Ras today:
Two-out-of-three Americans recognize that their constitutional right to own a gun was intended to ensure their freedom.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 65% of American Adults think the purpose of the Second Amendment is to make sure that people are able to protect themselves from tyranny. Only 17% disagree, while another 18% are not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
Not surprisingly, 72% of those with a gun in their family regard the Second Amendment as a protection against tyranny. However, even a majority (57%) of those without a gun in their home hold that view.
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The standard moonbat whine.
So, outlaw the possession of tobacco.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw the possession of alcohol.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Nationwide speed limit 20mph.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw the consumption of table salt.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw swimming in water over two feet deep.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Mandate that all windows above first floor be sealed.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw the possession of motorcycles.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw ladders over six feet tall.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw sharp points on knives, and develop dullness standards.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw explosive natural gas in homes.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
Outlaw alternating current.
"Saves even one life it's worth it."
It's a short list of improvements, but it's a start, and if it saves even one life, it's worth it.
That about sums it up
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The latest numbers are:
Yes 8529 12.21%
No 61215 87.6%
No Opinion 135 0.19%
Can you say, 'landslide?' O-)