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Title: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: thundley4 on January 17, 2013, 12:18:47 AM
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Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022201466

I don't need to bring anything over.  You can guess their general sentiments.

 :panic: :panic: :panic:

Boycott!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: Maxiest on January 17, 2013, 12:20:48 AM
But this is one of their favorite stores!!   :overreaction:
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: franksolich on January 17, 2013, 12:21:54 AM
Yeah, I was wondering.

Hasn't Whole Foods been a primitive-endorsed business for the longest time?
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: delilahmused on January 17, 2013, 01:21:11 AM
Damn! Wish I had one here...I'd shop there all the time, just because of this. All I have is Trader Joe's (I do go every couple of weeks) but would love to have a place to get paleo foods that was anti 0bamacare.

Cindie
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: txradioguy on January 17, 2013, 01:25:41 AM
Yeah, I was wondering.

Hasn't Whole Foods been a primitive-endorsed business for the longest time?

They are on the top of their "buy blue" lists.
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: Mike220 on January 17, 2013, 03:07:27 AM
Looks like I'll be making a stop at the Whole Paychecks down the road tomorrow.
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: diesel driver on January 17, 2013, 03:36:10 AM
It's good to see another liberal icon awaken from their stupor.

Too bad this didn't happen back in 2009.   :banghead:

Like the old saying goes, and like we've been saying for 4 years now, if it quacks like a duck...
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: Mike220 on January 17, 2013, 04:21:54 AM
It's good to see another liberal icon awaken from their stupor.

Too bad this didn't happen back in 2009.   :banghead:

Like the old saying goes, and like we've been saying for 4 years now, if it quacks like a duck...

He was saying the same thing back then regarding Obamacare in the WSJ. It caused a small uproar from the DUmmies who promptly forgot it in a haze of weed and Cheetos dust.

From what I've read he's pretty libertarian.
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: ColonelCarrots on January 17, 2013, 06:43:56 AM
This kinda shocked me. It's the same level of shock I would have if like MSNBC went conservative.

I don't like Whole Foods cause of all the hippies. I usually mock them when I have to go. They're filled with them down here in FL.
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: NHSparky on January 17, 2013, 06:51:49 AM
It's good to see another liberal icon awaken from their stupor.

Too bad this didn't happen back in 2009.   :banghead:

Like the old saying goes, and like we've been saying for 4 years now, if it quacks like a duck...

Actually, they have been saying this since then.

And point of correction, Whole Foods--it's isn't "like fascism"...it IS fascism.
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: Karin on January 17, 2013, 07:58:20 AM
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It caused a small uproar from the DUmmies who promptly forgot it in a haze of weed and Cheetos dust.

  Par for the course.  They're so easily distracted by the next shiny object.  For example, anything going on with Michigan's new Right to Work status? 
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: IassaFTots on January 17, 2013, 09:26:06 AM
I stopped in a few weeks ago, and they had Jack Mackey's new book, "Conscious Capitalism" all over the place.  Selling for $27, with x amount of proceeds going to a charity that I can't recall.  I was intrigued, but found out I could buy the book for $9 or so on Amazon.  I will order it through there.  I am sure Mr. Mackey will approve.   :-)

I hope he finally pisses off the pretentious granola ones so that when I shop there I am not inundated with them.  It would vastly improve my shopping experience. 

I go there probably once every other month, when I need something special or they have a good deal on something. 
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: Freeper on January 17, 2013, 09:28:09 AM
  Par for the course.  They're so easily distracted by the next shiny object.  For example, anything going on with Michigan's new Right to Work status?

Good point they are so focused on gun control they forgot all about that.
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: 17 Oaks on January 17, 2013, 09:30:19 AM
It's good to see another liberal icon awaken from their stupor.

Too bad this didn't happen back in 2009.   :banghead:

Like the old saying goes, and like we've been saying for 4 years now, if it quacks like a duck...
Most of them are too stupid, even after 4 years of bammy they still did not wake up...

F 350 CC, LWB, Dually driver here
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: Celtic Rose on January 17, 2013, 09:40:01 AM
Makes me feel good about my shopping trip there earlier this week  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: Karin on January 17, 2013, 10:30:17 AM
A massive, pointless thread.  People saying "I only buy flaxseed oil and Ezekial bread there.  No more."   :lmao:

You know, there are a lot of DUmmies saying "I stopped shopping there way back when, when he first criticized Obamacare."  "Me too" etc.

Guess what DUmmies?  They're still in business.  Your boycotts are useless.  They simply turn into buycotts. 
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 17, 2013, 10:36:09 AM
A massive, pointless thread.  

It matches them perfectly--they are massively pointless.
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 17, 2013, 10:44:13 AM
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Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’

...Except for being even less logical or functional.
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: DefiantSix on January 17, 2013, 10:49:11 AM
Time to go stock up at Whole Foods, it looks like.

You smell that?  That's the smell of FREEDOM! I love the smell of 'sploded DUmmy heads in the morning. :-)
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: Traveshamockery on January 17, 2013, 10:49:36 AM
We all know DUmmies are normally pretty stupid but even they have to know that Obamacare is bad for this country and accomplishes exactly the opposite of what they wanted with their beloved one payer system.  The insurance companies are making more money as mandated by the government and Obamacare.

What's stupid is the fact that, no matter what, they continue to profess how much they love Obamacare when we know even the smarter DUmmies (if there is such a thing) know it's bad and it's costing them more money. 

Talk about sheep.   :sheep:
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: ColonelCarrots on January 17, 2013, 12:11:07 PM
Ah that thread brightened up my day.
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 17, 2013, 12:17:06 PM
We all know DUmmies are normally pretty stupid but even they have to know that Obamacare is bad for this country and accomplishes exactly the opposite of what they wanted with their beloved one payer system.  The insurance companies are making more money as mandated by the government and Obamacare.

What's stupid is the fact that, no matter what, they continue to profess how much they love Obamacare when we know even the smarter DUmmies (if there is such a thing) know it's bad and it's costing them more money. 

Talk about sheep.   :sheep:

Not entirely, most of them didn't think it would work either, they just viewed it as the closest they were going to get to national health care at government expense, like England, which they call 'Single payer' so they can leave out the words 'National' and 'Government' when they talk about it.  What Obamacare does look like it will do it destroy the existing system and leave a wildly-inadequate and unfunded government one in its place, leaving us with a choice of trying to rebuild the old system from scratch or going the rest of the way to our own massive NHS bureaucracy.  They're betting the second of the two will be the path of least resistance, and they may be right.  On the other hand, after Obama finishes bankrupting the country and there isn't any more available money to do that move to single-payer, they may just be wrong, too.
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: DLR Pyro on January 17, 2013, 12:31:36 PM
But this is was one of their favorite stores!!   :overreaction:

FIFY
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: GOBUCKS on January 17, 2013, 01:41:49 PM
"Organic" food is a bigger scam than algore's rackets.

It's on a par with "alternative medicine".
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: DefiantSix on January 17, 2013, 01:46:14 PM
"Organic" food is a bigger scam than algore's rackets.

It's on a par with "alternative medicine".

Goes back to that old saw first put to paper by Thomas Tusser: "A fool and his money are soon parted".
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: Maxiest on January 17, 2013, 01:57:45 PM
"Organic" food is a bigger scam than algore's rackets.

It's on a par with "alternative medicine".

I have to disagree.  I am a proponet of Organic food.  Now, something that says "all natural" isn't Organic, that is a misconception.  But truly Organic food isn't a scam.
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: Karin on January 17, 2013, 02:59:36 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: delilahmused on January 17, 2013, 03:15:50 PM
"Organic" food is a bigger scam than algore's rackets.

It's on a par with "alternative medicine".

I have a naturopathic doctor (I have a traditional one and another that specializes in brain chemistry) but she supports (and lives) a paleo/primal (primal is paleo with dairy) lifestyle. Traditional doctors are still following the grain heavy food pyramid. Organic isn't necessary, though. I shop at Trader Joe's because it's the only relatively local place I can buy almond flour and nuts at a reasonable price. And goat's milk to make kefir.

Cindie
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: 17 Oaks on January 17, 2013, 03:51:04 PM
I have to disagree.  I am a proponet of Organic food.  Now, something that says "all natural" isn't Organic, that is a misconception.  But truly Organic food isn't a scam.
You want a straight answer????  Here it is:  Say you got a hundred acres or whatever.  Section off some of it, 1/2 acre is fine, what ever you feel like.  Build your organic canopy with AC/heat, water mist, auto opening vents based upon temp and wind velocity, seal it real well to keep out the bugs and don't to prep the soil well or you will just build it on top of bugs or just pots.  Spend $$$$$$$$$$, wait on the state and USDA to show up and label it 'Certified Organic'.  Now you you got your certification, think you will ever see them again?  Highly unlikely, but you still have to maintain that VERY COSTLY section of land and grow on it.  But what about that other 99 acres?   LOL do you have to ask?  Yea, go to the farmers market and buy organic there.  You first challenge is finding a real farmer there, you might find a few with some small acreage that cannot or just not big enough to sell to the grocery chains, but mostly you will find a bunch of folks dressed up to look like a farmer and a fancy name such as SweetMeat Farms LLC.  Changes are he lives in a condo in the city and drives out to surrounding towns and buys at some independent grocery stores or farmers market on the side of the roads...as close as he has ever been to farming is his kids bought him a Chia Pet one Christmas...

Then there is the real farmer.  He knows ever produce manager of every decent grocery in say, Dallas-Ft Worth.  He has an old beatup Chevy truck and overalls he gets a the Goodwill.  He reads the grocery ads like a 16 year old reads Hustler.  We are up by 430 and gone just after 5, stop in a one of his fav eateries on the way to a Grocery store.  He talked to the Produce Manager at the day before and he has a load of bananas but they are not selling, he will take 5 cents a lb for them, they are label organic, he ran a big add on tomatoes, but his shipment came in light and he will take a 1000 lbs.  The farmer found a store over in Ft Worth that has more tomatoes than he can sell and there is another store down the road from him that needs bananas.  He asks tomato guy if he needs any cantaloupe, he says if you bring I will run an add on Thrus if the price and quality is right.

We map out our stores and swaps.  before we leave out, he swings over to some fields where is truck and workers are loading some of the 8000+ acres he has in persihables.  He tells them to load up the cantaloupe on his truck.

When we come out of breakfast he sez to me let me show you something son:  He starts picking up loupes, smelling, feeling, looking and sets about 4 or 5 in some key locations on the load in the back of the pickup.  We arrive at the store and go in and get the Produce man.  We walk out to the truck, he sez, but looks and picks up one of the loupes he had placed.  He pulls out a long thin bladed jack knife, he holds that loupe and cuts into it, with juice running out and over his hand, he stabs that piece he just cut and sticks it out for the man to take, he does, he smiles and sez WOW those are some great loupes I can go premium price on these and he take the whole pickup load.

It was a long day and we head back to the farm where he lives, on the way he hands me a bag and sez son, count the money...I do and its a bit over $1200 bucks, I am impressed to say the least.  He looks and me and tells me:  "Son, not a day I go out I don't break $1000 dollars, that is my goal every day and if you marry my daughter I will teach you this business"

I did not marry his daughter, but I sure learned a lot about the farming business.  He lives in a country just outside of the Dallas Ft Worth metroplex area, he is the wealthiest man in the country, between his farm, oil, gas holdings and he owns that 8000+ acres outright.

I own a company that I had to make a decision to go organic or go "premium natural" in the products we manufacture.  After looking at in depth unless you buy single based products, like carrot, or lettuce, buying a products that is made up of multiple products and is called organic,m the changes are NOT in your favor you are getting 100% organic and from a manufacture point of view it would price my line of products into the stratosphere.  The lines we have use some certified organic products, but I do not advertise it.  The other issue for me I know for a fact, trying to get organic is spotty at best.  In fact I can read the labels and tell you that on many products that are labeled organic NOT everything is organic.  Its hazy, if you make something and it has more than 50% organic you can call it organic, but READ the fine print.  In my case I sell all natural products now at a price point that albeit is higher I do not have the costs or hassle of organic and I can advertise no fillers, chemicals etc etc.

Folks my age, many of us ate what you call organic till we left home or in my case got drafted.  Milk straight from the cow, ate a lot of wild foods, lots of wild fruits out there, I grew up eating them, churned our own butter etc.  Here on the ranch my livestock is organic, I feed no suplements of anykind and I keep my head count low in order to free graze rather then feed them from the feed bag.



Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: franksolich on January 17, 2013, 06:23:20 PM
You first challenge is finding a real farmer there, you might find a few with some small acreage that cannot or just not big enough to sell to the grocery chains, but mostly you will find a bunch of folks dressed up to look like a farmer and a fancy name such as SweetMeat Farms LLC.  Changes are he lives in a condo in the city and drives out to surrounding towns and buys at some independent grocery stores or farmers market on the side of the roads...as close as he has ever been to farming is his kids bought him a Chia Pet one Christmas...

Ain't that the truth.

I've always been amused by the primitives in discussing "farmer's" markets, in, for example, New England.

They go on and on about ol' Farmer Will and wife Betty, and their goods.

To anyone other than a primitive, I imagine finding corn-on-the-cob, watermelon, and strawberries, "locally grown".....and in January, to boot, would seem a little, uh, suspicious.

I'm sure there's lots of "farmers" who've taken primitives to the cleaners.
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: Freeper on January 17, 2013, 06:27:08 PM
Ain't that the truth.

I've always been amused by the primitives in discussing "farmer's" markets, in, for example, New England.

They go on and on about ol' Farmer Will and wife Betty, and their goods.

To anyone other than a primitive, I imagine finding corn-on-the-cob, watermelon, and strawberries, "locally grown".....and in January, to boot, would seem a little, uh, suspicious.

I'm sure there's lots of "farmers" who've taken primitives to the cleaners.

Not like it's real hard to take primitives to the cleaners. If you throw on a Che t shirt you could probably get them to buy ocean front property in AZ.

Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: franksolich on January 17, 2013, 06:32:47 PM
Not like it's real hard to take primitives to the cleaners. If you throw on a Che t shirt you could probably get them to buy ocean front property in AZ.

My suspicions were first aroused when a "farmers'" market came to Lincoln, Nebraska during the early 1980s.

There was one, with a big old rusty pick-up truck, the "farmer" wearing overalls and his wife a bonnet, selling "Lancaster County-grown, organically-grown, produce."

The corn and melons could have come from a rustic area surrounding Lincoln, but I had my doubts about the bananas.

But it seems a lot of yuppies, precursors to the primitives, were taken in.
Title: Re: Whole Foods CEO: Obamacare Is ‘Like Fascism’
Post by: 17 Oaks on January 17, 2013, 07:03:33 PM
Ain't that the truth.

I've always been amused by the primitives in discussing "farmer's" markets, in, for example, New England.

They go on and on about ol' Farmer Will and wife Betty, and their goods.

To anyone other than a primitive, I imagine finding corn-on-the-cob, watermelon, and strawberries, "locally grown".....and in January, to boot, would seem a little, uh, suspicious.

I'm sure there's lots of "farmers" who've taken primitives to the cleaners.
Should always be a give away, when they have bananas, mangos, oranges, its Feb, snow on the ground and they grew it on their organic farm just on the outskirts of the city...one time the guy had COCONUTS and I asked him, where they came from?  He told me he grew them.  I then said what island?