AlphaCentauri (6,446 posts)
Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia
Pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change.
As a young boy, Paul Christiano loved the world of girls — the way they danced, how their spindly bodies tumbled in gymnastics.
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Like many forms of sexual deviance, pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a sexual orientation as immutable as heterosexuality or homosexuality. It is a deep-rooted predisposition — limited almost entirely to men — that becomes clear during puberty and does not change.
The best estimates are that between 1% and 5% of men are pedophiles, meaning that they have a dominant attraction to prepubescent children.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-pedophiles-20130115,0,197689.story?track=lat-pick
Now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change.
Anybody (and I mean ANYBODY) who thinks pedophilia is or deserves any type of "normalicy" should be flogged about the head and shoulders with a blunt instrument until their IQ increases!
..or at least starts running out of their ears. ..
How many DUmmies laughed at the idea that something like this would ever be postulated?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022194724
The normalization of every kind of deviancy imaginable continues unabated, something the homosexuals swore would never happen and was just hysteria on the part of non-perverted people.
No time to bring responses over right now. "Suffice it to say", while some are outraged, a few are "open-minded" about it.
Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #20)
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:04 AM
EOTE (11,300 posts)
31. You don't seem to understand this issue at all.
There are pedophiles everywhere who don't act on their desire. Those people are NOT predators. Equating pedophilia with child abuse is the very definition of thought crimes and does not belong in a civilized society. This has NOTHING to do with consent, it's sick and sad that you'd make that connection.
Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #49)
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:12 PM
EOTE (11,300 posts)
52. I'm not defending child molesters, and you seem to be conflating the two.
Pedophilia, by it's very definition, means a sexual attraction to prepubescent children. You are suggesting that that itself is predatory and that is (once again) sick. It's thought policing and it belongs nowhere in civilized society.
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Response to EOTE (Reply #52)
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 04:48 PM
ismnotwasm (7,833 posts)
65. So you are simply agreeing that its a valid
Sexual orientation, correct?
Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #65)
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:54 AM
EOTE (11,300 posts)
108. It's a sexual orientation. The "valid" portion is up to you.
Surely something you've thrown in so you can accuse me of "defending pedophiles" whatever that means. Apparently, in your mind it means not throwing them in jail for the thoughts that they think. It's clearly a sexual orientation due to the extremely large number of people out there who fall into line with it. But I'm sure you know better, Dr. What a laugh. Again, thought crimes are disgusting.
EOTE (11,300 posts)
46. Thanks for the lesson, Dr. Ism. On which internet site did you learn that gem?
Do you really not understand how many grown men have an attraction to children? Up to 5% doesn't sound ridiculous at all, perhaps even low. The great majority of them DON'T act on their desire because they know it's wrong. It's those people who you sickly call predators. You believe in the thought police, that's disgusting.
EOTE (11,300 posts)
108. It's a sexual orientation. The "valid" portion is up to you.
Surely something you've thrown in so you can accuse me of "defending pedophiles" whatever that means. Apparently, in your mind it means not throwing them in jail for the thoughts that they think. It's clearly a sexual orientation due to the extremely large number of people out there who fall into line with it. But I'm sure you know better, Dr. What a laugh. Again, thought crimes are disgusting.
Get this sick bastard out of the general population.
Get this sick bastard out of the general population.
Declaring EVERYTHING normal pretty much changes the definition of normal...This has been the goal of NAMBLA since day one as in years and years.
Why is it getting so much warmer, and why are we all in a handbasket?
How many DUmmies laughed at the idea that something like this would ever be postulated?
davidn3600
59. I understand this is a tough subject and touches a lot of nerves
But speaking as someone that has studied some psychology, I think it is important to understand this....not accept it, but understand it. And right now we really don't understand this because it's considered so taboo that people don't even want psychologists to study it. Just execute them, many will say. That's not going to solve much. Evidence of pedophilia go back all the way through history. So you will never be able to execute them all.
randome (response to Reply #59)
64. Plus, 'catching' a predator occurs after the abuse.
If we can gain better insight into the causes, maybe some abuse can be prevented.
Pisces
39. Too bad. This disease harms innocent children and no amount of experts trying to tame the idea with words like sexual orientation is going to normalize it. We are animals deep in our psyche and animals kill to protect their young. How about experts normalize this immutable fact.
redqueen
44. The study showed these sick, defective shits were confusing wants with needs?
I dunno, I missed that part.
As for the human filth, some of the more loathesome apologists propose that kiddie porn be legalized, only computer generated or animated of course, so that "no one gets hurt"... apparently completely ignorant (willfully so, IMNSHO) that rewarding their indefensible appetites with as strong of a positive feedback mechanism as orgasm will necessarily increase their monstrous ideation.
randome (9,450 posts)
47. "...a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change..."
I think that's implied.
I don't think kiddie porn should be legalized under any circumstances. I agree the risk is too great. Porn has an influence on those with established deviant tendencies.
There shouldn't be computer generated kiddie porn because it might cause them to really act out their fantasies, but on Skin's island they tell me a violent video game where you get to kill everyone in sight has no effect on the pysche of the one playing. OK, hypocrite much?
Liberals/Progressives will be on board for lowering Age of Consent laws, it's just a matter of time.
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Why would you want to do that? We are told that homosexuals cannot control their behavior, and now this says pedophiles can't control theirs. What's the difference? How can you justify permitting one and not the other?USA, this is FAR more organized than you may think. I have followed this and written on it for at least 10 years and I am sure I was not on the leading edge. This study is not the only one that has been released on this subject and they all drawn the same conclusion...its an illness. The move is on now, NAMBLA is in the background because if they were up front it would turn folks off. I fully expect a major push to get the feds to bring them into the GBLT fold. Also by having the feds declare it as an illness this gives them (wanna guess?) yep you are right FREE MEDICAL care, SS disability, PRIORITY hiring in the federal govt and the list goes on and on of benefits...but MOST of all its gives them PROTECTION, both legal and societal. Meaning when some Ped you catch feeling up your 6 yr old daughter or son and you drop his ball sack thru the goal posts of life, not only are YOU going to jail (and he is not) but now he is gonna sue your azz for discrimination and is gonna win...
See liberals, you can't. If one is OK then so is the other.
Harms innocent children? Says who? Who are you to judge whether a child is harmed anymore than if homosexuals are harming each other by their conduct? Just because of their age? Give it time and your wonderful scientists that you adore will reach a consensus that pedophilia doesn't harm children. Then what will you do? Fall in line, just like you want to do now.
Liberals are looking to eliminate Age of Consent laws, there's no doubt. And when the push to make it happen starts getting better organized, the primitives will be right on board cheering it on.
There shouldn't be computer generated kiddie porn because it might cause them to really act out their fantasies, but on Skin's island they tell me a violent video game where you get to kill everyone in sight has no effect on the pysche of the one playing. OK, hypocrite much?
Liberals/Progressives will be on board for lowering Age of Consent laws, it's just a matter of time.
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Chris_ here used to have as a most excellent "signature," a quote about drifting leftward, always towards a new "normal." I hope he'll post it here, and I promise I'll save it. It fits this case perfectly.Ayn Rand wrote it...
Ayn Rand wrote it...
"The uncontested absurdities of today are the accepted slogans of tomorrow. They come to be accepted by degrees, by precedent, by implication, by erosion, by default, by dint of constant pressure on one side and constant retreat on the other - until the day when they are suddenly declared to be the country's official ideology."
I think mandatory impact casteration should be tried.
This should be universal between liberals, conservatives and every manner of person, pedophilia is not normal and nor it it okay.
DUmmies want gun owners to experience one of their children being shot so that they will change their stance on guns......maybe a DUmmie needs to have a child molested by a pedophile.
Just saying.
I have a single shot that will cure any sexual perversion known to man......or woman......but liberals won't let me use it.
I think mandatory impact casteration should be tried.Why waste a good straight razor.
Even if it didn't work, it'd sure be fun to try anyway. :whistling:
Why waste a good straight razor.
Why Not: Prison, LIFE sentence, Max Security, NO cell assignment and stenciled on his t-shirt is: 'prison punchboard'
Me thinks you missed the IMPACT part of his call for IMPACT CASTRATION (aka: a 22oz Claw Hammer applied to that "speshul part" until it was rendered non-functional)LOL, 22 hamer, not bad, but lets kick it up a notch: Dead On Annihilator Superhammer
I know the dummies say and do a lot of disgusting things, but the idea that some of them would stand up for pedophiles and defend them is one of the worst things I think I've seen over there.
This should be universal between liberals, conservatives and every manner of person, pedophilia is not normal and nor is it okay.
EOTE (11,300 posts)
46. Thanks for the lesson, Dr. Ism. On which internet site did you learn that gem?
Do you really not understand how many grown men have an attraction to children? Up to 5% doesn't sound ridiculous at all, perhaps even low. The great majority of them DON'T act on their desire because they know it's wrong. It's those people who you sickly call predators. You believe in the thought police, that's disgusting.
I got a hundred dollars that says this DUchebag is a pedophile. Any takers?
There are pedophiles everywhere who don't act on their desire. Those people are NOT predators. Equating pedophilia with child abuse is the very definition of thought crimes and does not belong in a civilized society.
I got a hundred dollars that says this DUchebag is a pedophile. Any takers?
I got a hundred dollars that says this DUchebag is a pedophile. Any takers?While I am not on any of the forums mentioned, a while back In got into quite a discussion with a guy on another forum...I think its the same one, he claimed he was one but WOW, did he put up arguement... they are just ill.
I got a hundred dollars that says this DUchebag is a pedophile. Any takers?
LOL, 22 hamer, not bad, but lets kick it up a notch: Dead On Annihilator SuperhammerNice hammer.
(http://www.17oaks.com/_Media/ec97_annihilator_superhamme_med.jpeg)
Take it from a man who uses one...this is one mean mofo hammer...
This is the same "research" Rush reported on last week, that had the Lameass media types joking and giggling over his comments like a bunch of sugared-up 5 year-olds.
About the same level of intelligence from them as well. :mental:
Anybody (and I mean ANYBODY) who thinks pedophilia is or deserves any type of "normalicy" should be flogged about the head and shoulders with a blunt instrument until their IQ increases!
AlphaCentauri (6,446 posts)
The best estimates are that between 1% and 5% of men are pedophiles, meaning that they have a dominant attraction to prepubescentchildrenboys.
I got a hundred dollars that says this DUchebag is a pedophile. Any takers?
AlphaCentauri (6,446 posts)Key word.
The best estimates are that between 1% and 5% of men are pedophiles, meaning that they have a dominant attraction to prepubescent children boys.
Funny, those are the same "estimates" the homosexual advocates use when they want to normalize their aberrant behavior.
Islam sanctions pedophilia.......DUmmies have another reason to leave the country.
Nice hammer.Wife and I have owned 6 houses in 12 years of marriage and we both enjoy buying and making it our own...which means adding rooms, redoing baths and kitchens from the walls out. This hammer is one hellva tool for home remodelers that have to destroy before they can rebuild. Best tool I have ever used. It has one drawback, its HEAVY, this ain't no 22 oz hammer.
Where do you plug it in? :-)
AlphaCentauri (6,446 posts)
Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia
Pedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change.
The queer lovers at CU laughed at this and poo-pooed the notion that there was a "slippery slope" back in September (http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?52009-Gawker-Pedophilia-Is-a-Sexual-Orientation). One of the arguments was that an attraction to the same sex was a sexual orientation while an attraction to small children was not. Their tiny minds shot right past the fact that normalizing deviant sexual behavior in the 1970s only opened the door to sliding the standard even further into the toilet.
It's not just the DUmp that lives in denial.
How long do you think it will be before terms like "Pedophobia" become widespread on the DUmp?
First step is to make the claim, and support it with propaganda, that pedofreaks "can't help themselves", that they were "born that way". Next step is to gin up some bullshit studies that "show" that being sexually molested by these perverts "does no lasting damage" to the child victims. Wait for it, it's coming.
I'm afraid you're right. With the mess Obama is making the democrats need to enlarge their "big tent" to add/cover/garner more of the pervert vote.EVERY minority group, not many left (no pun intended)
EVERY minority group, not many left (no pun intended)
Lower voting age to minors.....after all, it's for the chillreen.Up to bammy it would be 6 year olds, he had a stage full...how cute.
Lower voting age to minors.....after all, it's for the chillreen.
AlphaCentauri (6,446 posts)
The best estimates are that between 1% and 5% of men are pedophiles, meaning that they have a dominant attraction to prepubescent children boys.