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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Delmar on January 13, 2013, 12:29:03 PM
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Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:04 PM
wtmusic (36,672 posts)
Bloggers Hammer NYT on Decision to Close Environment Desk
"The decision by the New York Times to close its environmental desk accelerates the disappearance of climate change from our public discourse. Over the past year, the Obama Administration has been silent on the topic, and we have just had a Presidential campaign in which climate change was never discussed. Now the Times is closing its environmental desk. Despite their official statements to the contrary, this move will reduce the paper’s institutional focus and capacity to report on environmental issues.
Media coverage of climate change has an enormous impact on both public opinion and the policy agenda. As the leading U.S. paper, the New York Times also influences the rest of the media. This act sends an important message that environmental issues no longer justify a special institutional focus. We can only hope that the other news media do not follow the Times’ “lead†in abdicating their responsibility to environmental reporting."
- Dr. Joe Brulle, Professor of Sociology and Environmental Science, Drexel University
"It’s far from a precise match for our situation at CNN four years ago — we all got fired, not re-shuffled. And of course, CNN will never be confused with the Times. But CNN similarly assured everyone that coverage would not be affected. One area where a decision like this would likely have the same impact at the Times that it did at CNN: When you abolish a standalone beat, it sends a strong message to every career-conscious reporter and editor that chasing environment stories is not a path to advancement."
- Peter Dykstra, CNN reporter, blogger for The Daily Climate
"Anyone who follows climate science, solutions, and politics knows that climate change is in the process of emerging as the story of the century — and that’s only if every major country pulls together to rapidly transform the global economy to avoid catastrophe. If the climate silence and inaction continues, it may well be the story of the millennium — see NOAA: Climate change “largely irreversible for 1000 years,†with permanent Dust Bowls in Southwest and around the globe."
- Joe Romm, Climate Progress
"NYT dismantles its nine-person environment desk - but says that won’t affect climate coverage. How is that possible?"
- Dan Froomkin, Senior Washington Correspondent, Huffington Post
"An unmitigated disaster."
-Ben Grossman-Cohen, Oxfam America
"Dedicated teams bring strength and consistency to the task of covering environment-related issues. It's always a huge loss to see them dismantled... it's not necessarily a weakening to change organizational structure, but it does seem to be a bad sign. I will be watching closely what happens next."
- Beth Parke, Executive Director, Society of Environmental Journalists
http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/11/keeping-environmental-reporting-strong-wont-be-easy/?pagewanted=print
http://www.democraticunderground.com/112733038
Response to wtmusic (Original post)Sun Jan 13, 2013, 01:14 PM
riverbendviewgal (1,891 posts)
1. I wonder sometimes if climate change is more rapid than we are led to believe
What if the scientists are seeing very great disastrous changes but governments want to keep this as quiet as possible to prevent mass panic and riots. FOX NEWS is watched by a lot of people who guns and may go around like insane people and create anger when they realize that FOX was lieing.
The tipping point has been reached. There is no further point in raising awareness about global warming, it's too late now to do any good. The best thing to do is to keep quiet about it. No point in getting the right wing all riled up and taking to the streets with their sturm webers.
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It took this many people (http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2013/01/11/gray-lady-hardest-hit/) to churn out the globull warming propaganda at the NYT:
The New York Times will close its environment desk in the next few weeks and assign its seven reporters and two editors to other departments. The positions of environment editor and deputy environment editor are being eliminated.
wtmusic (36,673 posts)
2. Scientists are seeing disastrous changes.
It's no secret, and a little panic would probably be an improvement over the complacent, deer-in-the-headlights attitude of most Americans.
Any efforts by the U.S. government to keep it quiet are more the result of plutocrats who represent oil interests.
You mean Algore and his new pals at Al Jazzera?
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Lots of commie parasite propagandists being unemployed makes me smile.
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The tipping point was when too many free people laughed at the left's boogeyman.
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If what the enviro wackos was saying is true we all would have been flooded, burned to death, or frozen by now. Every few weeks another report comes out about how the world is going to end in 6 weeks unless we put a carbon tax on everyone. :mental:
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In the '70s - a "mini-ice age" was coming, and we were all going to freeze to death.
In the '80s - "acid rain" was going to poison the worlds water supply, and kill tons of vegetation - ending life on earth.
In the '90s - the "hole in the ozone layer" was going to rapidly expand, exposing all life to deadly cosmic radiation.
As of 2000 - "global warming" was going to rise uncontrollably, the oceans would rise, coastal cities would be submerged, and the remaining land would become desert. Survivors would devolve into a Mad Max like society.
Sometime around 2010 - "Global Warming" became "Climate Change", where weather patterns would shift, become 'extreme' and we would all die.
Kooks with half-baked man-made ecological disaster theories have been predicting doom for better than the last 40 years, and the only thing that seems to have changed is the brand of doom they are predicting - in a mere 40 years, the earth has gone from too cold to too hot according to them.
The only thing these 'predictions' have in common, is that each one has resulted in tighter government control, because the simple-minded folks that these predictions have fooled end up demanding it. A person who isn't blinded by fear would realize that if the scientists could get it so wrong (ice age, etc.) that the odds are their current predictions are also wrong, and should be regarded as unreliable.
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I've been curious about this next ice age Global Warming Global Climate change so I did some research on wikipedia. Hey, if it's good enough for know-it-all nads, it's good enough for me.
The Jurassic period: Climates were warm, with no evidence of glaciation. As in the Triassic, there was apparently no land near either pole, and no extensive ice caps existed.
Pleistocene period: The end of the Pleistocene corresponds with the end of the last glacial period.
Both a long time ago. Before industrialized civilization. Warming. Cooling.
It seems like the earth does this kind of regularly. It gets warm for a while: summer. It gets cool for a while: winter. Then for a while the summers are cooler. Then for a while the winters are warmer.
I guess the BFEE in conjunction with the VRWC must have been using Rove's time machine to go back in time to affect the climate. Those dirty bastards.
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Both a long time ago. Before industrialized civilization. Warming. Cooling.
That is the key to refute all claims about human activity causing worldwide global warming...or cooling!
To be sure, nobody wants polluted air and water and soil...unless you are a godless Communist. The Russians under Communism committed more horrific acts against the environment than capitalists: e.g. dumping failed nuclear reactors into the Arctic Ocean, reversing the courses of rivers, etc.! The air in Beijing (as monitored at the US embassy) is 50% worse than any place in America.
And you might find this of interest:
http://iceagenow.info/2011/11/russian-scientists-predict-100-years-cooling/ (http://iceagenow.info/2011/11/russian-scientists-predict-100-years-cooling/)
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With meters of hail falling in areas such as Mexico, how can the NYT close their environmental desk?
Perhaps this is a job for Nads, her ability to connect dots, spot trends, and analyze arcs makes her the perfect journalist for the NYT. She might even raise their credibility, god knows she couldn't hurt it.
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With meters of hail falling in areas such as Mexico, how can the NYT close their environmental desk?
Perhaps this is a job for Nads, her ability to connect dots, spot trends, and analyze arcs makes her the perfect journalist for the NYT. She might even raise their credibility, god knows she couldn't hurt it.
They make for a perfect pairing - inaccurate yet packed full of arrogant condescension. ^5
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Another thing that I've come to realize concerning the DUmmie orgasms over man-made Global Climate change is that they don't care about evidence or history. The main reason they get so excited about man-made Global Climate Change is because if it is real it would mean that mankind is bad. They love the thought of painting mankind as bad.
The ironic thing is that they also support Communism and Socialism. Two systems of government that can only succeed as advertised if mankind is basically good.
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With meters of hail falling in areas such as Mexico, how can the NYT close their environmental desk?
Perhaps this is a job for Nads, her ability to connect dots, spot trends, and analyze arcs makes her the perfect journalist for the NYT. She might even raise their credibility, god knows she couldn't hurt it.
She has her own body armor, ropes, firefighter's turnout gear, and 10" Bowie knife. Everything a citizen journalist for the New York Times needs.
She "works" for nothing, too.
(http://childrensbookshop.com/images/bookimages/72/72178.jpg)
I bet she carries the coonskin cap in that big bag she always schleps around.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Well, looks lke AlGore cashed out, so the big GW alert was cancelled.........DUmmies to resume looking for another "crisis" so the people can be taxed and ginned-up for the next election cycle. :panic:
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I take Man-Made Global Climate Change very seriously. I keep a close eye on Al Gore. When he changes his lifestyle and goes to live in a cave, I will start to worry.
Until then: Bite Me
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I've said it often before, but it remains true:
Even if everything the wackos want to blame entirely on mankind were true on this, setting aside the real factors of orbital and solar variation and the variations in Earth's volcanic activity over time, and not even talking about problems with their models or highly-manipulated data - if they're right, it's a cumulative effect of hundreds of years of human activity, and therefore irreversible for all intents and purposes because even shutting down ALL carbone emissions will only check the rate of growth, not reverse it. Even killing 99% of the people wouldn't actually reverse it, just a thousand years or so of near-zero human footprint would do that.
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If what the enviro wackos was saying is true we all would have been flooded, burned to death, or frozen by now. Every few weeks another report comes out about how the world is going to end in 6 weeks unless we put a carbon tax on everyone. :mental:
...and one week after passing such a tax, the world will be magically ....fixed!
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...and one week after passing such a tax, the world will be magically ....fixed!
Oh, not at all - it would still be the same and it would become a new crisis requiring even more regulations and taxed because clearly the ones just passed weren't strong enough!
:popcorn:
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That is the key to refute all claims about human activity causing worldwide global warming...or cooling!
To be sure, nobody wants polluted air and water and soil...unless you are a godless Communist. The Russians under Communism committed more horrific acts against the environment than capitalists: e.g. dumping failed nuclear reactors into the Arctic Ocean, reversing the courses of rivers, etc.! The air in Beijing (as monitored at the US embassy) is 50% worse than any place in America.
And you might find this of interest:
http://iceagenow.info/2011/11/russian-scientists-predict-100-years-cooling/ (http://iceagenow.info/2011/11/russian-scientists-predict-100-years-cooling/)
Air quality in US cities had gone up since the mid-90's, at least. It was stated that the quality went way up under Bush. Surprisingly :whatever:, I can't find the article anymore.
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Ah, but there is this:
Beijing Air Quality Worst Ever Recorded (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/01/beijing_air_quality_worst_ever_recorded.html)
Those Crony Communists sure are doing things right. We should emulate then more closely.
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Oh, not at all - it would still be the same and it would become a new crisis requiring even more regulations and taxed because clearly the ones just passed weren't strong enough!
:popcorn:
:thatsright: What was I thinking? Of course, they would.
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I take Man-Made Global Climate Change very seriously. I keep a close eye on Al Gore. When he changes his lifestyle and goes to live in a cave, I will start to worry.
Until then: Bite Me
Then, we will never have anything to worry about... :-)
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OMG! The tipping point!? OH SHIT, we are on a teeter-totter, that explains why I'm freezing my ass off!! :panic:
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Now the Times is closing its environmental desk.
I blame George W. Bush.
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This past weekend, 75 degrees in Augusta, nice breeze, sunny, led me to one conclusion.....
(http://rlv.zcache.com/i_heart_global_warming_bumper_sticker-p128669537178794775en8ys_400.jpg)
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OMG! The tipping point!? OH SHIT, we are on a teeter-totter, that explains why I'm freezing my ass off!! :panic:
That was my thought too. We have had record lows in the past week here in So Cal, so when we reach globull warming's tipping point, does that mean we are entering a period of globull cooling?
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Remeber boys & girls:
1. When it is warmer than normal, it is due to global warming.
2. When it is colder than normal, it is due to global warming.
3. When it is normal, it is due to global warming.
4. When it is colder than normal, it is just weather.
5. Shut up and give us your money.