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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: txradioguy on January 07, 2013, 05:19:25 AM

Title: Obama calls conscience clause for military chaplains unnecessary
Post by: txradioguy on January 07, 2013, 05:19:25 AM

President Barack Obama called a conscience clause for military chaplains in the National Defense Authorization Act “unnecessary and ill-advised.”
 
The NDAA provision ordered that no member of the armed forces may require a chaplain to perform a rite or ceremony that violates the chaplain’s beliefs, and that chaplains may not be disciplined for refusing to perform such a ceremony.
 
The provision, which was introduced by now-former Missouri Rep. Todd Akin, was a response to Obama’s 2011 repeal of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.
 

Religious liberty advocates and chaplains worried that they may be required to violate their consciences by administering sacraments or officiating marriage ceremonies to gay service members, which would be contrary to some religious traditions, including those of the Catholic Church.
 
“The Armed Forces shall accommodate the beliefs of a member of the armed forces reflecting the conscience, moral principles, or religious beliefs of the member and, in so far as practicable, may not use such beliefs as the basis of any adverse personnel action, discrimination, or denial of promotion, schooling, training, or assignment,” the bill read.
 
But Obama, who declared his personal support for gay marriage last year, said the bill’s concerns are unfounded.


http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/03/obama-calls-ndaa-conscience-clause-for-military-chaplains-unnecessary-and-ill-advised/#ixzz2HHuBdK8W

Title: Re: Obama calls conscience clause for military chaplains unnecessary
Post by: formerlurker on January 07, 2013, 05:24:12 AM

He signed the bill though.

Title: Re: Obama calls conscience clause for military chaplains unnecessary
Post by: marv on January 07, 2013, 07:58:37 AM

So what happens if an Christian battalion commander orders a muslim chaplin to perform Vidui, and recite Shema and "Baruch Dayan ha Emet" over a dying Jewish soldier?

Title: Re: Obama calls conscience clause for military chaplains unnecessary
Post by: DefiantSix on January 07, 2013, 08:36:28 AM

Quote from: marv on January 07, 2013, 07:58:37 AM

So what happens if an Christian battalion commander orders a muslim chaplin to perform Vidui, and recite Shema and "Baruch Dayan ha Emet" over a dying Jewish soldier?

Either the muzzie wolf in sheep's clothing will obey orders, or will strap on a couple of satchel charges and "protest an illegal order".  :fuelfire:

Title: Re: Obama calls conscience clause for military chaplains unnecessary
Post by: txradioguy on January 07, 2013, 08:53:24 AM

Quote from: marv on January 07, 2013, 07:58:37 AM

So what happens if an Christian battalion commander orders a muslim chaplin to perform Vidui, and recite Shema and "Baruch Dayan ha Emet" over a dying Jewish soldier?

More than likely...they'd defer to one of the other Chaplains in the Brigade.