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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on January 06, 2013, 11:09:10 PM
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It's a great time at the DUmp!
TiT got out of the slammer, Pam got out of the morgue, and now UGP is out of the padded room.
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 12:06 AM
undergroundpanther (11,341 posts)
I wonder if this is a contributor to violence in this country...
There are places that house people with mental illness... since section 8 is near impossible to get nowadays... It's religious based housing that forces mentally ill people in their care off their meds because they think jesus will heal them. This kind of thing isn't an anomaly. Some of these facilities are run by churches indirectly as money makers and religion pushing.Some take in minors and force them off medications doctors order for them. It's all done "cold turkey" Often including pain meds.
This crap is going on under the radar all over this country. Thanks to Bush-hole letting the ****ing asshole churches "help"the mentally ill. There was a place near me that got shut down.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022146199
She's DUmber than Buckwild.
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Looks like her stay didn't work.
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Looks like her stay didn't work.
Frontal lobotomy would do the trick nicely.
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Now we just need to figure out where Bobbo and her Buick went.
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Now we just need to figure out where Bobbo and her Buick went.
Not really.
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How does someone get released to a half-way house if that house isn't registered with the state?
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Okay a couple things. If she or it is referencing the recent shootings, not one of those individuals was in the care of any facility(religious or otherwise). As for what she is referencing: there is a difference between treatment for your mental illness and treatment for your shitty attitude. Religious people are right that the second is not cured by meds but by outlook. In a Christian's mind outlook generally changes and is more positive in a saved individual not to mention some people likely as part of ministry wish to bring gods gift to those with mental illness; many of whom, as we see at the dump Are overwhelmed by secular doctors with their various diagnosis and such. Since UGP usually speaks without listening or delving in further I am not surprised she can't make the distinction between the two.
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Pfhahaha!
Some things never change...Is she/he/it/kitty still looking for the Almighty Gubbmit to turn her into a cat for free?
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I know a lot of Christians believe that only God can heal the mind and refuse psychiatric drugs. I have never heard of anyone forcing another person off of their meds though. I fully believe that God let man discover ways to heal a person and we are supposed to use them. Sitting around being a nutjob doesn't help anyone.
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Frontal lobotomy would do the trick nicely.
Followed by a backal lobotomy. :-)
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Marcia Brady (106 posts)
4. I read all three articles you linked.
Not one said anything about being a Christian, or any other religion-based facility. Not one said anything about taking meds away. All three seemed to be saying that the state or local governments involved had failed. The third, the NJ one, was the worst. The state was placing people in this half-way house to free up prison beds, which they could then rent out to the federal government, and make some $$$.
The owner of the house in the first article admitted that he was just renting out rooms, and made no pretense to be running a program of any kind.
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Subway Kitty added the religion part cause she/he/it knoew it would cause more DUmmies to come look at her "poor me" thread.
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It's a great time at the DUmp!
TiT got out of the slammer, Pam got out of the morgue, and now UGP is out of the padded room.
Now maybe poor stupid Beth will come back too.
And the hippywife primitive Mrs. Alfred Packer.
And symbolman and NanceGreggs.
And Ladyhawk and Stella Blue.
And Fat Che and Diseased American.
It'd be great.
I suppose it's too much to hope for Chief S itting Bull getting resurrected, though.
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defacto7 (2,002 posts)
3. K&R
Religion, it's like history class without facts. Myth as truth is poison.
When someone's every posting is an ongoing diatribe about their inability to properly assess, process and cope with reality why would you take anything they say at face value?
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I know a lot of Christians believe that only God can heal the mind and refuse psychiatric drugs. I have never heard of anyone forcing another person off of their meds though. I fully believe that God let man discover ways to heal a person and we are supposed to use them. Sitting around being a nutjob doesn't help anyone.
Tom Cruise and the Scientologists don't believe in psychiatric meds.
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Frontal lobotomy would do the trick nicely.
Why stop at the front? :popcorn:
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Why stop at the front? :popcorn:
Good point.
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Why stop at the front? :popcorn:
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Keep an open mind and think sunny thoughts!
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I know a lot of Christians believe that only God can heal the mind and refuse psychiatric drugs. I have never heard of anyone forcing another person off of their meds though. I fully believe that God let man discover ways to heal a person and we are supposed to use them. Sitting around being a nutjob doesn't help anyone.
But, doing that relieves them of any responsibilities. And, in the end, that's what they want--to be cared for by someone else. Even if that 'someone else' happens to be a bunch of orderlies in a 'secure' facility, with rubber padding all over the walls.
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HA!!! I was wondering what happened to it!
:lmao:
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UGP is just upset because someone has pointed out that programs that rely on faith have the lowest recidivism rate. The truth burns!!!! :rofl:
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UGP is just upset because someone has pointed out that programs that rely on faith have the lowest recidivism rate. The truth burns!!!! :rofl:
And that truth is a threat to s/h/it's med supply.
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section 8 is near impossible to get nowadays...
Damn, I wonder why.
It's religious based housing that forces mentally ill people in their care off their meds because they think jesus will heal them.
Do they keep sending her back to the same place? I've heard this complaint from her before.
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I was scared to open this thread because I didn't see the "d" at the end of "discharged".
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Now we just need to figure out where Bobbo and her Buick went.
Bobo was one of the greatest moles in the hisotry of DU.
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Kitty needs to smoke some catnip, drink a saucer of milk, and shut the hell up.
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I'd say her next round of electro-shock therapy needs more cowbell.
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I'd say her next round of electro-shock therapy needs more cowbell.
If 'cowbell' is code for '15 kilowatts,' I agree. :zap:
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Do they keep sending her back to the same place? I've heard this complaint from her before.
Indeed.
This is just an abridged version of an incoherent rant of hers that she posted last April, and even that was her repeating something she heard secondhand. It's found here:
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,71955.0.html
For a few points of rebuttal we've given in that thread that I think stand out, first are a couple from me:
1. Checking into religious- based centers is completely voluntary. No one is forced to check into them, nor are they forced to stay in them.
2. "The entire account is tainted by the fact that subway kitty is far from a reliable source, even by DUmmy standards. Between her own quite obvious severe mental illness and her immense hatred of and bigotry against all things even remotely Christian in nature (Both of which she manifests on a regular basis in her posts), she cannot be trusted to give an honest, factual, unbiased account of such matters. She in fact exposes her own prejudice through how she constantly switches from ranting about the center to spewing venom towards Christians in general, such as toward the end of her post when she says that Christians need to "Get out of the business of 'helping' people, period.""
Second is one from AprilRazz which specifically addressed the kitty's complaint about the center supposedly taking patients' medication (Assuming that they actually did that, and it wasn't just subway kitty lying or regurgitating misinformation she picked up):
"What the bloated subway road kill does not mention is that inpatient treatment centers do have doctors on staff who are able to prescribe needed medications for mental health issues. They take pills from new patients because anyone can bring in a pill bottle and claim that it is needed medication. Just because it says that it is say welbutrin does not mean that the patient has not switched out the pills or altered them in some way. So they take the medication that the patient has brought in and throw it away. Then they distribute needed medications from the center's own stock. Honestly it is not that they want to with hold needed medications it is just that you never trust a drug addict to not try to sneak something in."