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Title: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 12:26:00 PM
I am sure we all saw this coming.  BHO is going to fill the gap of pledged delegates with superdelegates
that are committing to him in swarms today.  he could likely use the national media exposure that the
the final primaries will be getting tonight to claim the nomination with one of his patented Obamations. 

with this possible turn of events hanging over her, hillary could wind up retracting her retraction about
conceding tonight.   I'm sure it would sting less if she was allowed to concede before he claimed victory.
it would certainly be smarter for the dem party.  anything that looks like ill treatment of her will just piss
off her supporters.

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Superdelegates surge to Obama

A tsunami of superdelegates is poised to rush to Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) over the next 12 hours, giving him a mathematical lock on his party’s presidential nomination.

The superdelegate surge is likely to swamp a few holdouts within the camp of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) who have been resisting a prompt concession.

Aides say Clinton does not plan to concede or bid supporters farewell when she speaks in New York tonight, but instead will salute her supporters and argue for the strength of her candidacy.

But her clout is ebbing by the hour. At 6:56 a.m. Eastern time, the Obama campaign announced the first of the day’s slew of endorsements by superdelegates – the Democratic Party officials who have a vote on the nominee and will determine who it is, since neither Obama nor Clinton have won enough delegates in primaries and caucuses to put them over the top.

Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe said on NBC’s “Today” show: “If Senator Obama gets the number, I think Hillary Clinton will congratulate him, call him the nominee. We haven't gotten to that number yet.”

Obama needs only about 36 more delegates, and he told The Associated Press in an interview that he expects to get about 15 of those in today’s primaries in South Dakota and Montana. Superdelegates will finish the job.

“A lot of people recognize that it is going to be time for us to pivot and move on,” he said.

Robert Gibbs, Obama’s campaign communications director, said on CNN’s “American Morning” that the campaign is “still working the phones and talking to people.”

“I think there's a pretty good chance that by the time Barack Obama walks out on the stage tonight, we'll walk out as Democratic nominee as president of the United States,” Gibbs said. “We'll begin a new phase in this campaign and talk about what's next for this country and what direction we can take it in — the type of change that you can believe in.”

Much More (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/10792.html)
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (BHO will probably clinch tonight)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 12:46:23 PM
(http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20080601/i/ra1884211108.jpg)


 :-) :rotf:
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (BHO will probably clinch tonight)
Post by: Miss Mia on June 03, 2008, 12:50:58 PM
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COUNTDOWN TO THE NOMINATON:
OBAMA: 33.5
CLINTON: 198
MSNBC First Read (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/)
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (BHO will probably clinch tonight)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 12:53:26 PM
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COUNTDOWN TO THE NOMINATON:
OBAMA: 33.5
CLINTON: 198
MSNBC First Read (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/)

exactly.  this is a super delegate bull rush.

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Obama's picked up six in the superdelegate count so far today. He got 3.5 of those between 11:15 a.m. and noon -- CA John A. Perez, MA John Olver, and three from Michigan -- Congresswoman Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Debbie Dingell, and Rick Wiener. (Keep in mind, those Michigan delegates count for half.) Dingell's husband, Rep. John Dingell, is a Clinton endorser.

she can concede, like a good girl, or get splattered flat by the stampede.
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (BHO will probably clinch tonight)
Post by: Miss Mia on June 03, 2008, 12:55:25 PM
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COUNTDOWN TO THE NOMINATON:
OBAMA: 33.5
CLINTON: 198
MSNBC First Read (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/)

exactly.  this is a super delegate bull rush.

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Obama's picked up six in the superdelegate count so far today. He got 3.5 of those between 11:15 a.m. and noon -- CA John A. Perez, MA John Olver, and three from Michigan -- Congresswoman Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Debbie Dingell, and Rick Wiener. (Keep in mind, those Michigan delegates count for half.) Dingell's husband, Rep. John Dingell, is a Clinton endorser.

she can concede, like a good girl, or get splattered flat by the stampede.

Supposedly a whole bunch are set to endorse right after the polls close tonight too.  I think he's been nice the last few weeks, just dripping them out one by one, giving her a chance to concede.  But alas, she's a Clinton and never gives up, the SD will stomp her tonight.  Bill should be wary of any lamps in the room once Obama reaches the magic number.  :-)
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (BHO will probably clinch tonight)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 01:03:41 PM
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COUNTDOWN TO THE NOMINATON:
OBAMA: 33.5
CLINTON: 198
MSNBC First Read (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/)

exactly.  this is a super delegate bull rush.

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Obama's picked up six in the superdelegate count so far today. He got 3.5 of those between 11:15 a.m. and noon -- CA John A. Perez, MA John Olver, and three from Michigan -- Congresswoman Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, Debbie Dingell, and Rick Wiener. (Keep in mind, those Michigan delegates count for half.) Dingell's husband, Rep. John Dingell, is a Clinton endorser.

she can concede, like a good girl, or get splattered flat by the stampede.

Supposedly a whole bunch are set to endorse right after the polls close tonight too.  I think he's been nice the last few weeks, just dripping them out one by one, giving her a chance to concede.  But alas, she's a Clinton and never gives up, the SD will stomp her tonight.  Bill should be wary of any lamps in the room once Obama reaches the magic number.  :-)

I thought it was an ashtray. :-)

Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (BHO will probably clinch tonight)
Post by: Miss Mia on June 03, 2008, 01:07:11 PM
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10 delegates for Obama today, 29 away (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/03/1101430.aspx)
Posted: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:00 PM by Domenico Montanaro
Filed Under: 2008, Obama, Delegates

From NBC's Domenico Montanaro
Five delegates for Obama since last update.

Obama got two more superdelegates and one more Edwards pledged after they were contacted by Rep. Jim Clyburn, who endorsed Obama earlier today: Rep. John Spratt and New York's Ralph Dawson, a member of the DNC's Rules, and Bylaws Committee. The Edwards delegate is E. Tim Moore, a lawyer from South Carolina.

Two more supers: Ohio's Joyce Beatty and Maine's Jennifer DeChant.

This makes 10 supers and one Edwards delegate for the day for Obama.

COUNTDOWN TO THE NOMINATON:
OBAMA: 29
CLINTON: 198

The NBC NEWS Delegate Counts:
PLEDGED: Obama 1729 to 1625
SUPERS: Obama 343 to 295
EDWARDS PL.: Obama 17 to 0
OVERALL: Obama 2,089 to 1,920

* 186.5 undeclared supers.
 
* We've adjusted our Edwards pledged number from Florida.



Lamp, ashtray I thought she's thrown both.  *shrug*  Bill and anyone else in the room should be wary of anything that could be considered a projectile.
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (BHO will probably clinch tonight)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 01:08:43 PM

I'm not sure you should use "projectile" and "bill clinton" in the same sentence, all things considered.

not in polite society, anyway.

Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (BHO will probably clinch tonight)
Post by: Miss Mia on June 03, 2008, 01:10:07 PM

I'm not sure you should use "projectile" and "bill clinton" in the same sentence, all things considered.

not in polite society, anyway.




 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


Oh, I know he's crying himself to sleep over the loss of future White House interns. 
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (BHO will probably clinch tonight)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 01:10:17 PM

What is that noise I hear in the background?

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r270/lmntalattraction/FatLady.jpg)
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (BHO will probably clinch tonight)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 01:11:07 PM

I'm not sure you should use "projectile" and "bill clinton" in the same sentence, all things considered.

not in polite society, anyway.




 :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:


Oh, I know he's crying himself to sleep over the loss of future White House interns. 

I have no doubt that "score more chicks" was his #1 reason for wanting back in the white house.  srlsy.

Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (BHO will probably clinch tonight)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 01:15:54 PM

in fact:

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AP tally: Obama effectively clinches nomination

WASHINGTON (AP) - Barack Obama effectively clinched the Democratic presidential nomination Tuesday, based on an Associated Press tally of convention delegates, becoming the first black candidate ever to lead his party into a fall campaign for the White House.

Campaigning on an insistent call for change, Obama outlasted former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton in a historic race that sparked record turnout in primary after primary, yet exposed deep racial divisions within the party.

The AP tally was based on public commitments from delegates as well as more than a dozen private commitments. It also included a minimum number of delegates Obama was guaranteed even if he lost the final two primaries in South Dakota and Montana later in the day.

The 46-year-old first-term senator will face Sen. John McCain of Arizona in the fall campaign to become the 44th president.

Clinton was ready to concede that her rival had amassed the delegates needed to triumph, according to officials in her campaign. These officials said the New York senator did not intend to suspend or end her candidacy in a speech Tuesday night in New York. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they had not been authorized to divulge her plans.

Obama's triumph was fashioned on prodigious fundraising, meticulous organizing and his theme of change aimed at an electorate opposed to the Iraq war and worried about the economy—all harnessed to his own innate gifts as a campaigner.

more (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D912O5FG0&show_article=1)
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (BHO will probably clinch tonight)
Post by: Rebel on June 03, 2008, 01:21:40 PM

What is that noise I hear in the background?

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r270/lmntalattraction/FatLady.jpg)

Wonder Woman.


(http://www.rock103.com/pages/crew/pics/wonder-woman.jpg)
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 01:24:54 PM

LOL!  it looks like she has indeed retracted (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g-qGLDs-gAnZiUXD2NU51ry3j3dwD912NJIO1) her retraction about conceding.

Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Miss Mia on June 03, 2008, 01:26:59 PM

LOL!  it looks like she has indeed retracted (http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g-qGLDs-gAnZiUXD2NU51ry3j3dwD912NJIO1) her retraction about conceding.



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Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Lord Undies on June 03, 2008, 01:33:49 PM
Ding Dong
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 01:35:48 PM

hilarious.  the AP runs with a story saying that she will concede tonight.  then her campaign sends out a flood of emails saying that the story is inaccurate. then, superdelegates start moving en masse to obama, followed shortly by another story from the AP saying she will concede (again).

I suspect that someone senior in the dem party called her this afternoon, and told her that she could do this the easy way, or she could do this the hard way.
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 02:01:41 PM

this will probably turn out to be a case of "clintonspeak".  tonight she will concede that obama has enough
delegates to win the nomination, but won't concede the race, or suspend her campaign.

a non-concession concession speech.
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Lord Undies on June 03, 2008, 02:16:16 PM
The witch is dead.
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 02:19:28 PM

the hillarites are coming unglued over on hillary's website (http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/06/03/163233).  they want to sue someone for something or other. :-)
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: jendf on June 03, 2008, 02:21:47 PM

this will probably turn out to be a case of "clintonspeak".  tonight she will concede that obama has enough
delegates to win the nomination, but won't concede the race, or suspend her campaign.

a non-concession concession speech.

I can't see her completely conceeding yet. If there is a lawsuit option open to her, then she's going to take it. The phrase "bowing out gracefully" is foreign to the Clinton family.
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Lord Undies on June 03, 2008, 02:23:38 PM
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Please investigate who's behind this

Misinforming public for the benefit of certain party should be considered a crime!

by Definitely Hillary at 6/3/2008 1:54:07 PM

Pasted from the Hillary Clinton website blog.  This has GOT to be a classic!  
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 02:26:41 PM
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Please investigate who's behind this

Misinforming public for the benefit of certain party should be considered a crime!

by Definitely Hillary at 6/3/2008 1:54:07 PM

Pasted from the Hillary Clinton website blog.  This has GOT to be a classic!   

I liked :

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WOULD SOMEONE WITH LEGAL EXPERIENCE CONTACT THE FCC ? THE MEDIA IS "TOTALLY" OUT OF CONTROL.

by PatFlorida at 6/3/2008 1:37:12 PM

and by the same barking moonbat:

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      WHO WAS THE ONE AT AP WHO SENT OUT THIS STORY ?

      I WANT NAMES...AND I WANT  THEM NOW !

      by PatFlorida at 6/3/2008 1:49:45 PM
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 02:27:55 PM

hey, Hillaryites;  you lost.  deal with it.  consider it the karmic backwash from the clenis costing al gore the election in 2000.  (no pun intended)

Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Lord Undies on June 03, 2008, 02:31:08 PM
I'm sure these same folks were livid and screaming for Dan Rather to be arrested....'cause I know democrats are too principled and upstanding to be hypocritical now. 

 :lmao:
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Lauri on June 03, 2008, 02:31:45 PM

hilarious.  the AP runs with a story saying that she will concede tonight.  then her campaign sends out a flood of emails saying that the story is inaccurate. then, superdelegates start moving en masse to obama, followed shortly by another story from the AP saying she will concede (again).

I suspect that someone senior in the dem party called her this afternoon, and told her that she could do this the easy way, or she could do this the hard way.


yeah, this tennis match today is getting a bit tedious.

where is Bill Clinton with his political genius when you need him?

and still, dont give up Hil! dont let that black man bully you! :-)
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Miss Mia on June 03, 2008, 02:32:10 PM

this will probably turn out to be a case of "clintonspeak".  tonight she will concede that obama has enough
delegates to win the nomination, but won't concede the race, or suspend her campaign.

a non-concession concession speech.

Agreed.  Her campaign is still going on about how the SD don't techinally vote until the convention and they could still change their minds.   :whatever:  I believe that any changes in SD has been from Hillary to Obama so far.  (I could be wrong, there could be one or two that went from Obama to her)


this will probably turn out to be a case of "clintonspeak".  tonight she will concede that obama has enough
delegates to win the nomination, but won't concede the race, or suspend her campaign.

a non-concession concession speech.

I can't see her completely conceeding yet. If there is a lawsuit option open to her, then she's going to take it. The phrase "bowing out gracefully" is foreign to the Clinton family.

Agreed.  I think the only reason there wasn't a massive slide of SD to Obama before, was they were giving her a chance to do just that, bow out gracefully, she hasn't so they're going to stomp The Clintons down.


WE, you want to see a nasty Hillary Forum go to http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/ (http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/)  That's a nasty piece of work, I'm sure there are many a heads exploding today. 
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Willow on June 03, 2008, 02:33:54 PM

hilarious.  the AP runs with a story saying that she will concede tonight.  then her campaign sends out a flood of emails saying that the story is inaccurate. then, superdelegates start moving en masse to obama, followed shortly by another story from the AP saying she will concede (again).

I suspect that someone senior in the dem party called her this afternoon, and told her that she could do this the easy way, or she could do this the hard way.




I'd do it the hard way, but that's just me. Crying shame given his affilitations with anti-American, pro Maraxist racists and terrorists that he is the best the DEmocratic party has to offer and they have overlooked every single solitary one of his indiscretions. Run Independently Hillary!
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Miss Mia on June 03, 2008, 02:35:41 PM
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COUNTDOWN TO THE NOMINATON:
OBAMA: 27.5 
CLINTON: 198

The NBC NEWS Delegate Counts:
PLEDGED: Obama 1729 to 1625
SUPERS: Obama 344.5 to 295
EDWARDS PL.: Obama 17 to 0
OVERALL: Obama 2,090.5 to 1,920

* 185 undeclared supers.
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: franksolich on June 03, 2008, 03:19:52 PM
Am I the only one who is sad about this?

I was hoping the battle would go on for three months yet.

It's been a good show.

Now all there's to look forward to, is watching and waiting for Barry "Goldwater" Obama to self-destruct, as he inevitably must, and that isn't quite the same thing as this now-over battle between an Irresistable Object and an Immoveable Force.

I am very sad this is over.
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Chris_ on June 03, 2008, 03:22:56 PM
Am I the only one who is sad about this?

I was hoping the battle would go on for three months yet.

It's been a good show.

Now all there's to look forward to, is watching and waiting for Barry "Goldwater" Obama to self-destruct, as he inevitably must, and that isn't quite the same thing as this now-over battle between an Irresistable Object and an Immoveable Force.

I am very sad this is over.

It might not be over.  Until mrs. clinton formally concedes, it ain't over. she may very well think she can twist some arms still.
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Lauri on June 03, 2008, 03:23:44 PM
Am I the only one who is sad about this?

I was hoping the battle would go on for three months yet.

It's been a good show.

Now all there's to look forward to, is watching and waiting for Barry "Goldwater" Obama to self-destruct, as he inevitably must, and that isn't quite the same thing as this now-over battle between an Irresistable Object and an Immoveable Force.

I am very sad this is over.

its not over. Hilary has recently said she didnt find it fair what was decided this past Saturday. Not that the news media was trumpeting that anywhere.

until we hear from Hilary's own mouth, dont count her out. she is, at this very moment, scurrying to and fro... trying to find anything else in her arsenal.

do not underestimate her... have hope!  :-)
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Wretched Excess on June 03, 2008, 03:25:14 PM
Am I the only one who is sad about this?

I was hoping the battle would go on for three months yet.

It's been a good show.

Now all there's to look forward to, is watching and waiting for Barry "Goldwater" Obama to self-destruct, as he inevitably must, and that isn't quite the same thing as this now-over battle between an Irresistable Object and an Immoveable Force.

I am very sad this is over.

its not over. Hilary has recently said she didnt find it fair what was decided this past Saturday. Not that the news media was trumpeting that anywhere.

until we hear from Hilary's own mouth, dont count her out. she is, at this very moment, scurrying to and fro... trying to find anything else in her arsenal.

do not underestimate her... have hope!  :-)


they are going to have to beat that concession speech out of her with a boat oar. :-)
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Lord Undies on June 03, 2008, 03:34:18 PM
Remember...they had to take Al Gore down with an elephant dart, practically, and he isn't 1/8 the man Hillary Clinton is.
Title: Re: Superdelegates surge to Obama (Updated to : Obama Clinches Dem Nomination)
Post by: Odin's Hand on June 03, 2008, 04:22:40 PM
He just picked up Carter's endorsement and I found this.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/carter-will-not.html

Another lie straight from the horse's mouth.