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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on December 23, 2012, 06:32:45 PM
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Whole lotta crazy in this one... http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022061691
Jackpine Radical (35,357 posts)
Jackpine's Theory of Everything--Come talk me down…
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The ultimate fear of the super-rich PTB is that the people will awaken to everything that's happening and rise against them. OWS is a new kind of populist threat, precisely because it is leaderless. It's much harder to kill a leaderless organization than one with a leader. The mass media have expended considerable energy ridiculing the movement for its leaderless nature, and trying to force it to adopt a conventional hierarchical model. You can't decapitate something without a head. (For much elaboration of related ideas, see Brafman & Beckstrom Starfish & Spider)
Ultimately, TPTB know that the end-game is upon us, there is a contest coming between them and the awakening crowd and and they need all the help they can get to protect themselves against the coming Jacquerie. They have a volunteer military and a large contingent of mercenaries. They have militarized the police forces throughout the land. They are "domesticating" their drones, first for surveillance and no doubt with plans to weaponize them a bit later. Some of the drones will be in private corporate hands, serving private corporate purposes. The weaponry at their disposal is unthinkably complex and sophisticated.
There is not much point in trying to fight a modern military/paramilitay/mercenary force with your assault rifle or Glock or whatever. The only thing those weapons are good for is use on your fellow citizens. The day when an informal "armed militia" of pioneers in coonskin caps could take down their blunderbusses from over the mantel and have a realistic chance of defeating a standing army died sometime around the Whiskey Rebellion of 1791. The notion that a modern gang of well-heeled thugs in cammies with semi-auto rifles and 50-round magazines could take on any force much more powerful than the local police is ludicrous.
In fact, I think that TPTB want a well-armed ring of wingnuts between us and them.
The prototypical survivalist wingnut has a bunch of high-powered weaponry and mounds of ammunition for it all, stockpiles of canned food, bottled water, and the bricks of gold Glenn Beck had told him to buy. He (almost always he) envisions himself as besieged by ravening hordes of dark-complected welfare cheats, illegal aliens, Muslims and pointy-headed intellectuals, all of whom are after his precious canned goods and gold, and all of whom he will mow down like kudzu with a Weed-Eater.
This is the modern equivalent of J.P. Morgan's solution to unionization which he encapsulated when he said that he could always hire one half of the lower classes to kill off the other half. The rich never had it so good--the modern goon squads are volunteers who willingly pay for their own weaponry and fortifications.
The real situation is that they're arming the wingnuts for the ultimate disaster, the trifecta of global warming, post-peak oil, and social collapse. The NRA goons are their first line of protection against a potentially awakened people.
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Jackpine Radical (35,357 posts)
Jackpine's Theory of Everything--Come talk me down…
Last edited Mon Dec 24, 2012, 05:19 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
The ultimate fear of the super-rich PTB is that the people will awaken to everything that's happening and rise against them. OWS is a new kind of populist threat, precisely because it is leaderless. It's much harder to kill a leaderless organization than one with a leader. The mass media have expended considerable energy ridiculing the movement for its leaderless nature, and trying to force it to adopt a conventional hierarchical model. You can't decapitate something without a head. (For much elaboration of related ideas, see Brafman & Beckstrom Starfish & Spider)
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OWS a threat ? *snort*
Remove that bunch of filthy, lazy hippies and collectivist scum from the protection that a lawful society offers and they'd all be lining a ditch within the hour.
That's even if they hadn't all gone back to their parents basements when the weather turned cold.
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The stupid is STRONG in this one! :killemall:
BTW, what the **** is PTB? :confused:
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The stupid is STRONG in this one! :killemall:
BTW, what the **** is PTB? :confused:
I was wondering the same thing, DD. Dummies talking in code. We doomed!!!!! :runaway: :runaway:
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The stupid is STRONG in this one! :killemall:
BTW, what the **** is PTB? :confused:
Powers That Be.
Lefty code speak for Teh Joooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooozzzzzzzzzzzzzzâ„¢
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Powers That Be.
Lefty code speak for Teh Joooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooozzzzzzzzzzzzzzâ„¢
Thanks.
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Hmmm. Is the Occupy movement is the key to revolution, then you DUmmies better start kissing the ring of your new corporate masters.
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Powers That Be.
Lefty code speak for Teh Joooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooozzzzzzzzzzzzzzâ„¢
I thought Powers That Be was the BFEE in stealth mode.
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I thought Powers That Be was the BFEE in stealth mode.
Naw... that's the VRWC. The BFEE is a branch of the VRWC. I'd show you the org chart but then I would have to kill you and everyone that saw it. :killemall:
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he was quoting Jay Gould, not JP Morgan.
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he was quoting Jay Gould, not JP Morgan.
Like when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor...
"Forget it, he's rolling." :lmao:
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OWS a threat ? *snort*
Remove that bunch of filthy, lazy hippies and collectivist scum from the protection that a lawful society offers and they'd all be lining a ditch within the hour.
That's even if they hadn't all gone back to their parents basements when the weather turned cold.
You are forgetting about the already demonstrated biological warfare they are capable of waging. Remember the NBC gear workers needed to clean up the toxic dumps the hippies left behind after being run off.
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The bums, rich kids, and petty criminals who make up OWS are Populists, but the people who want to be secure in their property and Constitutional rights are evil minions of TPTB? Well, Jackoff Radical, it appears you have been successfully indoctrinated by the billionaire Leftists who want to interpose you and your prattle between themselves and any rejection of their control of our society.
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I think it's quite funny they think that when the shit hits the fan, the US Military is going to be on THEIR side.
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I think it's quite funny they think that when the shit hits the fan, the US Military is going to be on THEIR side.
It's funny now; it's going to be ROFL hilarious to watch the looks on their faces when they see the military coming in, and then notice which way the pointy end of the guns are directed.
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I've watched many OWS videos of protesters being interviewed........DUmb as dirt does not correctly describe them.
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I've watched many OWS videos of protesters being interviewed........DUmb as dirt does not correctly describe them.
Most of them could not offer any coherent reasons for protesting or what they were trying to do.
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Most of them could not offer any coherent reasons for protesting or what they were trying to do.
Dave's not here man !
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I've watched many OWS videos of protesters being interviewed........DUmb as dirt does not correctly describe them.
That's an insult to dirt everywhere.
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I've watched many OWS videos of protesters being interviewed........DUmb as dirt does not correctly describe them.
Dirt called; it's mad as hell they that you'd make such a comparison. Dirt finds it insulting.
That's an insult to dirt everywhere.
Sick minds think alike... :cheers1:
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Dirt called; it's mad as hell they that you'd make such a comparison. Dirt finds it insulting.
Sick minds think alike... :cheers1:
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
H5, and Merry Christmas! :cheersmate:
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I still think OWS was really originally about nothing more than the homeless being allowed to camp in town. Then others and the media tried to make it more.
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I still think OWS was really originally about nothing more than the homeless being allowed to camp in town. Then others and the media tried to make it more.
No, the moocher class thought they'd get people to "rise up" and start a class war, and while it might have had temporary gains, in the long run they'll be remembered as the spoiled little children they are.
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No, the moocher class thought they'd get people to "rise up" and start a class war, and while it might have had temporary gains, in the long run they'll be remembered as the spoiled little children they are.
That, and the totally FAILED attempts at self-governing, social equality, security, and community "standards" they were taught in college, and for some reason, those "higher ideas" just don't translate well into the real world.
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I think it's quite funny they think that when the shit hits the fan, the US Military is going to be on THEIR side.
They just always assume that. I don't get it.
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I've watched many OWS videos of protesters being interviewed........DUmb as dirt does not correctly describe them.
B-b-bu-but,....weren't they mostly recent college graduates?
Armed for a successful life with Liberal Arts degrees?
Wait..... :thatsright: