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Title: WHY IS AN ARKANSAS CITY DEPLOYING POLICE WITH AR-15S TO DEMAND CITIZENS SHOW I.D
Post by: tac on December 19, 2012, 08:32:13 AM
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The little more than 26,000 citizens in an eastern Arkansas town could soon see city police patrolling the streets with assault rifles and asking them to show identification and answer questions as to why they’re out and about.

The martial law recommended by the mayor and police chief of Paragould, in response to recent property-related and violent crimes, has begun seeing some backlash from those believing it infringes upon their civil rights.

Read more here (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/why-is-an-arkansas-city-deploying-police-with-ar-15s-demand-citizens-show-i-d-on-the-streets/)

If the number of crimes dictated martial law, most of the big cities in the US would always be under martial law. Can you imagine D.C., NYC,Chicago, etc being patrolled by police armed to the teeth? What about demanding the citizens produce ID's? How about all those poor oppressed people that can't get ID's? Isn't that the rationale behind prohibiting a state to require photo ID to vote? Where's Holder, Sharpton and Jackson when you need them?
Title: Re: WHY IS AN ARKANSAS CITY DEPLOYING POLICE WITH AR-15S TO DEMAND CITIZENS SHOW I.D
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 19, 2012, 08:49:30 AM
Read more here (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/why-is-an-arkansas-city-deploying-police-with-ar-15s-demand-citizens-show-i-d-on-the-streets/)

If the number of crimes dictated martial law, most of the big cities in the US would always be under martial law. Can you imagine D.C., NYC,Chicago, etc being patrolled by police armed to the teeth? What about demanding the citizens produce ID's? How about all those poor oppressed people that can't get ID's? Isn't that the rationale behind prohibiting a state to require photo ID to vote? Where's Holder, Sharpton and Jackson when you need them?

Probably somewhere eating fried chicken.
Title: Re: WHY IS AN ARKANSAS CITY DEPLOYING POLICE WITH AR-15S TO DEMAND CITIZENS SHOW I.D
Post by: Gina on December 19, 2012, 08:58:48 AM
 :yum:
Title: Re: WHY IS AN ARKANSAS CITY DEPLOYING POLICE WITH AR-15S TO DEMAND CITIZENS SHOW I.D
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 19, 2012, 09:07:34 AM
Probably somewhere eating fried stealing chickens.

 :fuelfire:
Title: Re: WHY IS AN ARKANSAS CITY DEPLOYING POLICE WITH AR-15S TO DEMAND CITIZENS SHOW I.D
Post by: wasp69 on December 19, 2012, 10:40:42 AM

Probably somewhere eating fried stealing choking chickens.

  :fuelfire:

 :-)
Title: Re: WHY IS AN ARKANSAS CITY DEPLOYING POLICE WITH AR-15S TO DEMAND CITIZENS SHOW I.D
Post by: thundley4 on December 19, 2012, 10:43:54 AM
It wasn't that long ago that Governor Quinn was offering/threatening to send National Guard troops to Chicago to help with the violence.
Title: Re: WHY IS AN ARKANSAS CITY DEPLOYING POLICE WITH AR-15S TO DEMAND CITIZENS SHOW I.D
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 19, 2012, 01:53:42 PM
It wasn't that long ago that Governor Quinn was offering/threatening to send National Guard troops to Chicago to help with the violence.

Was that a threat to the gangbangers, or to the National Guard?

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: WHY IS AN ARKANSAS CITY DEPLOYING POLICE WITH AR-15S TO DEMAND CITIZENS SHOW I.D
Post by: CG6468 on December 19, 2012, 01:59:12 PM
Was that a threat to the gangbangers, or to the National Guard?

 :popcorn:

Yes.
Title: Re: WHY IS AN ARKANSAS CITY DEPLOYING POLICE WITH AR-15S TO DEMAND CITIZENS SHOW I.D
Post by: rich_t on December 19, 2012, 04:41:46 PM
That could get real interesting.  Particularly since there is no law requiring a person to even have an ID much less carry it at all times.

But I do seem to recall hearing about a SCOTUS case that declared that it is not a civil rights violation for a cops to ask for ID during during an investigative stop.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/03-5554.ZS.html  HIIBEL v. SIXTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT COURT OF
NEVADA, HUMBOLDT COUNTY, et al.

But this might not hold up in the Arkansas issue here.  I suppose it will boil down to how liberal the cops want to be in defining investigative stop.