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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tucker on December 18, 2012, 09:36:38 AM
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sasha031 (6,390 posts)
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Gun Owners of America hints at armed revolt
Executive Director Larry Pratt tells Chris Matthews that government's "gone overboard," and gun owners should act
Things got real ugly real quick during Chris Matthews’ interview with Larry Pratt on MSNBC’s “Hardball†this evening.
The reptilian executive director of Gun Owners of America, last seen telling gun control advocates “they have the blood of little children on their hands,†argued that we are “less free without automatic rifles,†and need to stay prepared.
Matthews, who loves nothing more than hurling himself through cracked-open doors like this, was all too happy to oblige with a “prepared for what?â€
Pratt: “To take on our government. government has gone overboard.†He continued that it’s time to take action “when elections are stolen.â€
Does this mean that the Gun Owners of America’s 300,000 members are preparing to revolt?
http://www.salon.com/2012/12/17/gun_owners_of_america_hints_at_armed_revolt/
I'm against Gitmo, needs to be closed. Anyone have any ideas where they should be shipped?
What can they do with the bodies of the dead? Liberals make bad fertilizer. Full of too many chemicals.
DisgustipatedinCA (4,778 posts)
2. They may get vaporized before you get a chance to ship them away
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Remind them that they should line up straight for their armed revolt, and it would be good if they carried dental records.
Keep in mind that y'all hate the military for a reason. They're mostly conservatives.
bhikkhu (7,073 posts)
7. And once they've freed themselves what kind of government will they invent?
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I'd like to see a bunch of gun nuts try to govern themselves. Even more absurd to imagine - a bunch of families of gun nuts setting up any kind of working government.
Uh!!! It was gun lovers and a resolve to use them won freedom to establish this country.
Aristus (26,847 posts)
13. If those ****heads ever grow the cojones to rise up in armed insurrection,
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I'm taking my 44 year-old ass down to the Army recruiting station and telling them "I crewed a tank in the Gulf in 1991; let me at those ****ers!"
Let's see how they do against someone who shoots back!
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onehandle (32,636 posts)
14. Bring it on. Our military will kick your asses. nt
See reply about military above.
Reality bites.
Lizzie Poppet (1,106 posts)
31. Possible problem with that...big problem, actually.
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If there were any such armed resistance to a ban/confiscation of civilian firearms (and that's what it would take...a really unlikely occurrence because it's politically un-doable), then there would be way, way more potential insurrectionists than the 300K members of that organization.
That would still prove little threat to the US military, save for one huge problem: the US military is skewed significantly to the conservative side of things these days, and the majority of its members would oppose (many of them vehemently) any such law. Would they obey orders to fire on people resisting such a law? I very, very much doubt it...t least not all or even most of them.
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Silly liberals, that military is worthless without people manning it. The military, in itself, isn't a military without personnel.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=56c_1202198200
Keep in mind, over 70% of the military are libertarian or conservative. We (former US Army NCO here) understand freedom, DUmbasses; you're the idiots spewing your filth daily about banning this, banning that, rounding people up, confiscating this and that, etc. It's not looking good for you, ****sticks. :bird:
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History has demonstrated 100% of the time that when a government confiscates guns hundreds of millions of people die. History has also demonstrated that the first step toward confiscation are reasonable controls on firearm ownership.
Millions of Americans are seeing the parallels between 1930s Germany and the last four years of the Obama regime.
1. Hardcore socialism taking over the government. (Yes DUches fascism is socialism)
2. Very bad and sustained economic conditions.
3. Huge buildup of government control and power.
4. Megalomaniac as the leader of the government.
5. Disarmament of the general populace.
6. Double digit inflation.
7. A national police force under control of one person.
8. Health care under the control of government.
9. Demonization of a very small section of the populace.
10. The state and it's leader becoming a religion.
11. Complete control of media to propagandize for the state.
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Lizzie Poppet (1,106 posts)
That would still prove little threat to the US military, save for one huge problem: the US military is skewed significantly to the conservative side of things these days,
That's not by some VRWC design, Lizzie; that's by the mindset it takes to become a servicemember.
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Can't seem to bring this up enough:
Why Socialism Always Results in Tyrannical Rule
By Adrian Krieg
WAKE-UP CALL AMERICA - 1998
The Controlling Elite Love Socialism for the People-Control Properties of the System, But for the Average Citizen the Results Have Always Been Disastrous.
In the 20th century there have been numerous political systems, but in the latter half of the century there were only two survivors, Socialism and Capitalism. So we have at this time in the Western world, which for all practical purposes controls the world, two opposing political systems. (I have already previously stated that there is no basic difference between socialists and communists. There are, however, some very important factors relating to socialism of which you should be aware. Socialism will not work in a free market economy and, as a consequence it invariably deteriorates into a totalitarian state. Anyone wishing to argue that point is asked to point to one single instance where this was not the result).
It therefore behooves us to remember who the worst despotic governments of this century were: Nazis in Germany, Fascists in Italy, Communists in the USSR, [Romania, East Germany, Bulgaria, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Cuba, North Korea, Cambodia, Vietnam, etc.] and China - each and every one of them a paragon of socialist endeavor. Their leaders; Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin [Ceausescu, Tito, Pol Pot, etc.] and Mao Tse Tung. The outstanding legacy of these individuals is that they each tried to out-do the others in the total number of their own citizens which they murdered. It is a fact that each of these men killed more of their own civilian citizens than they lost in military conflict.
The reason for this is inherent to socialism. It promises things that it cannot possibly deliver. When socialist politicians in power come to the realization that it is impossible to deliver on their promises and political unrest develops, they have two options if they plan to stay in power. First, they must locate a scapegoat on whom they can blame their inability to deliver. Any Jew can tell you who that was for the Germans and the Russians. The second is to develop, and rapidly so, a state security apparatus to keep them in office - the SS, the KGB, [Securitate, Stasi] etc.The basic tenets of socialism are:
1. Seduce the populace into accepting the government as the arbitrator of all problems; government from cradle-to-grave
2. Begin delivering on those services to make the citizens dependent
3. Take away the citizens' guns
4. Increase taxes on all services while destroying any free market alternative services
5. Blame the chosen scapegoat for the inability to meet demand for services
6. Have the centralized national police force round up any dissidents
---MORE--- (http://www.orthodoxnet.com/news/WhySocialismAlwaysResultsInTyranny.html)
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Aristus (26,847 posts)
13. If those ****heads ever grow the cojones to rise up in armed insurrection,
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I'm taking my 44 year-old ass down to the Army recruiting station and telling them "I crewed a tank in the Gulf in 1991; let me at those ****ers!"
Let's see how they do against someone who shoots back!
If only you had the same fire and passion about law abiding citizens putting down obinga's feral sons... *sigh*
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The reptilian executive director of Gun Owners of America, last seen telling gun control advocates “they have the blood of little children on their hands,â€
Good! It's about damned time this has been injected into the public discourse. It's well past time to hang these types of preventable, tragic events around the necks of those who have earned it.
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And we should blame the left because it is their ideas and policies that made it possible for massacres like Newtown to occur. They can never explain why the cities with the most gun control laws are the worse places to live in because of all the violence that goes on and those with fewer gun control laws the least.
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onehandle (32,636 posts)
14. Bring it on. Our military will kick your asses. nt
You don't have a military; you enjoy a state of grudging tolerance.
Besides, you ****tards insist the US military can't even subdue a bunch of illiterate goat-****ers.
Which is it?
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Most if not all of the military won't be siding with the DUmp humpers. They swore to protect the Constitution not to the President or Congress or the Government. Also there is that pesky Posse Commitatus (sp?) law that keeps them from enforcing any gun grabbing laws you childish clowns want to pass.
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Aristus (26,847 posts)
13. If those ****heads ever grow the cojones to rise up in armed insurrection,
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I'm taking my 44 year-old ass down to the Army recruiting station and telling them "I crewed a tank in the Gulf in 1991; let me at those ****ers!"
Let's see how they do against someone who shoots back!
Trayvon didn't do so well. :devious:
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Aristus (26,847 posts)
13. If those ****heads ever grow the cojones to rise up in armed insurrection,
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I'm taking my 44 year-old ass down to the Army recruiting station and telling them "I crewed a tank in the Gulf in 1991; let me at those ****ers!"
Let's see how they do against someone who shoots back!
WARNING! WARNING! NRA talking point detected! NRA talking point detected! Please stay where you are until the Nadin Police arrives for your calling out and possible verbal punishment and lecture.
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You don't have a military; you enjoy a state of grudging tolerance.
Besides, you ****tards insist the US military can't even subdue a bunch of illiterate goat-****ers.
Which is it?
This is from the same people (and I use that term loosly), that said GWB was either an evil, criminal mastermind in charge of MIHOP/LIHOP, or too stoopid to remember to breathe.
If more DUmmies pulled their heads out of their asses and got some oxygen to their brains, they wouldn't be DUmmies.
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What we're seeing on Skin's island is all quite typical. Every time one of these horrible shooting sprees occurs, countless liberals declaim that (1) we need a debate on gun control, and (2) the other side's views are despicable, stupid and unworthy of consideration. The "debate" they say they want is a one-sided one, as it is with virtually every political issue. Of course, they are conducting just such a "debate." What infuriates them is that the other side refuses to cooperate and disappear.
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This is from the same people (and I use that term loosly), that said GWB was either an evil, criminal mastermind in charge of MIHOP/LIHOP, or too stoopid to remember to breathe.
If more DUmmies pulled their heads out of their asses and got some oxygen to their brains, they wouldn't be DUmmies.
If that happened their heads would explode in a ball of flame. :-)
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If that happened their heads would explode in a ball of flame. :-)
A "win win" either way. :cheersmate:
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Nuts like Larry Pratt do no favors for decent and civilized people.
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Most if not all of the military won't be siding with the DUmp humpers. They swore to protect the Constitution not to the President or Congress or the Government. Also there is that pesky Posse Commitatus (sp?) law that keeps them from enforcing any gun grabbing laws you childish clowns want to pass.
Not to mention those of us who are out of the military, but saw no expiration date on their oaths.
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Besides, you ****tards insist the US military can't even subdue a bunch of illiterate goat-****ers.
Reminds me. Ever hear about the invention of the condom (probably not true)? :-)
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Reminds me. Ever hear about the invention of the condom (probably not true)? :-)
Heard it. Would LOVE for it to be true.