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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: txradioguy on December 17, 2012, 03:25:04 AM
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President Barack Obama quickly spurned House Speaker John Boehner’s latest compromise offer, as the federal government continues its scheduled progress towards the $600 billion so-called fiscal cliff in January.
The rejection came Sunday, two days after Boehner had offered to raise tax rates for Americans earning more than $1 million dollars per year.
News of Boehner’s compromise will likely spur protest by the GOP’s small-government wing.
On Friday, Boehner also proposed to raise the government’s debt limit by roughly $1 trillion over its current level of $16.3 trillion. That’s also controversial, because Republican advocates of smaller government want to use Congress’ control over the debt-limit to curb the federal government’s 10-year $45 trillion spending plan.
Obama’s rapid spending — he has raised the national debt by $5.7 trillion since 2008 — means that he must persuade Congress to raise the debt ceiling again in the next few months.
Boehner’s Friday proposal would have transferred another $460 billion in the next decade from roughly 400,000 investors and entrepreneurs to the federal government by raising their top marginal income tax rate from 35 percent to 39.6 percent.
Other federal, state and local taxes lift the effective tax rate on top earners to well over 50 percent.
GOP leaders say such high tax rates shrivel investment, hurt job creation and curb tax revenues.
But Obama didn’t consider Boehner’s $460 billion offer big enough, even when combined with the House speaker’s previous offer to cut several hundred billion dollars in tax breaks used by upper-income Americans, according to a White House official cited by The Washington Post.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/17/white-house-rejects-boehners-offer-to-boost-millionaires-tax-rate-in-exchange-for-spending-cuts/#ixzz2FIe4A8vv
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I blame Boehner for acting like any serious offer will be seriously considered.
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I blame Boehner for acting like any serious offer will be seriously considered.
He's looked for a long time like he's being manipulated like the puppet-on-a-string that he is.
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I am tired of his pussified ways. Grow a set man! :rant:
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I am tired of his pussified ways. Grow a set man! :rant:
I refuse to get worked up over these wastes of a roll in the sack. Not a one of them - Dhimmi'Rat or "Republican" - are worth crossing the street to piss on their back if they were on fire.
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Anyone ever heard of "term limits"????
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I refuse to get worked up over these wastes of a roll in the sack. Not a one of them - Dhimmi'Rat or "Republican" - are worth crossing the street to piss on their back if they were on fire.
They have my money and my kids money. I am going to get worked up over it.
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They have my money and my kids money. I am going to get worked up over it.
At this point, no they don't. They have China's money. They're destroying the VALUE of my money, but I've figured ways around that. The country is locked on course for the Waimar Republic's event horizon now, and there's nothing we can do to stop it except shoot them all and start from scratch (sub-optimal option).
All living in fear or anger will do for you, is to sap you of the strength you need to work the problem(s) as they arise.
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:bawl:
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If Boehner caves and Obama gets his way , we are screwed. If Boehner grows some balls and refuses tax cuts without spending cuts and tax rates go up for everyone we are screwed.
We are screwed.
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If Boehner caves and Obama gets his way , we are screwed. If Boehner grows some balls and refuses tax cuts without spending cuts and tax rates go up for everyone we are screwed.
We are screwed.
true but on a positive note Sandra fluck will get free birth control.
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Anyone ever heard of "term limits"????
We have. The problem isn't the corrupt politicians. The problem is the moronic voter base that keeps them in job security. All artificial term limits would do is force these low information nitwits to keep selecting new frauds and hucksters to replace the batch of frauds and hucksters that ran out of time at the public trough.
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“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.â€
— Thomas Jefferson
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The fact that Boehner is willing to raise taxes on ANYONE and not cut spending IMMEDIATELY tells me all I need to know about that jackwagon.
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Anyone ever heard of "term limits"????
We have. The problem isn't the corrupt politicians. The problem is the moronic voter base that keeps them in job security. All artificial term limits would do is force these low information nitwits to keep selecting new frauds and hucksters to replace the batch of frauds and hucksters that ran out of time at the public trough.
Bingo. The best "term limits" that can be imposed on a politician is from the voters. Asking the corrupt cowards that are stinking up Capitol Hill to impose term limits on themselves is doomed to failure before the ink is put to the paper. There would be a billion exemptions written into the law and when "we, the people," complained, they would shrug their shoulders and tell us that they passed a "term limits" law just like we asked.
The best way to get rid of the flotsam is to vote it out. The best way to vote it out is to have voters that aren't stupid or apathetic. The best way to have voters that aren't stupid or apathetic is through organization. The best way to organize is to get off the computer and put feet to prayer. Some segments of society are stupid and they will send stupid to DC as representation. Defeating that will require education and participation.
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Message to the Congressional G.O.P.: Do not agree to the demands of the President. Go over three fiscal cliffs if need be, but draw a line and never give up your principles. Deny the administration all new funding for their out of control government expenditures. I can live with the integrity of those actions.
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Message to the Congressional G.O.P.: Do not agree to the demands of the President. Go over three fiscal cliffs if need be, but draw a line and never give up your principles. Deny the administration all new funding for their out of control government expenditures. I can live with the integrity of those actions.
Time and again I have said that there should be no increase to the debt ceiling and no tax deal done without a budget.
Tell the American people what you want to spend money on before asking us to give you more.
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Bingo. The best "term limits" that can be imposed on a politician is from the voters. Asking the corrupt cowards that are stinking up Capitol Hill to impose term limits on themselves is doomed to failure before the ink is put to the paper. There would be a billion exemptions written into the law and when "we, the people," complained, they would shrug their shoulders and tell us that they passed a "term limits" law just like we asked.
The best way to get rid of the flotsam is to vote it out. The best way to vote it out is to have voters that aren't stupid or apathetic. The best way to have voters that aren't stupid or apathetic is through organization. The best way to organize is to get off the computer and put feet to prayer. Some segments of society are stupid and they will send stupid to DC as representation. Defeating that will require education and participation.
Also voters who have been bought off by politicians.
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It's just weird that gov't doesn't have to act the same way I would with credit. If I don't have the means to pay credit back they don't extend me anymore credit. So odd.
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Bingo. The best "term limits" that can be imposed on a politician is from the voters. Asking the corrupt cowards that are stinking up Capitol Hill to impose term limits on themselves is doomed to failure before the ink is put to the paper. There would be a billion exemptions written into the law and when "we, the people," complained, they would shrug their shoulders and tell us that they passed a "term limits" law just like we asked.
The best way to get rid of the flotsam is to vote it out. The best way to vote it out is to have voters that aren't stupid or apathetic. The best way to have voters that aren't stupid or apathetic is through organization. The best way to organize is to get off the computer and put feet to prayer. Some segments of society are stupid and they will send stupid to DC as representation. Defeating that will require education and participation.
You are correct but you are asking alot of the unwashed masses who feel they are entitled to getting free birth control, free abortion on demand, free medical care, EBT cards to use on everything they want, not the basic necessities that they need to survive, and free obamaphones.
You are also asking alot of these same people to expect them to become informed about the candidates and the problems threatening this Nation both from outside our borders but also from within our borders when they are more concerned about who is going to get bounced off American idol this week.
And you are asking alot from this same group of morons who have no problem camping outside a Best Buy for 3 days in order to save a few bucks on a large screen TV yet they whine and demand early voting privileges (and all the problems of fraud that goes along with that) because they can't be inconvenienced by having to wait a few minutes in line on election day.
My view of this Nation's future was seriously degraded on the night of 11/6/12. I no longer look at the U.S. the way I did growing up in the '60's. '70's and '80's. We landed a man on the moon less than 10 years after the challenge to do so was thrown down by the President. Now we a president who is more concerned about NASA making muslims feel good about themselves than he is about exploring beyond the planet Earth. I feel this Nation's best days are behind us and a large majority of the population and our so called elected representatives couldn't give a crap about how far down the shitter we are going.
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You are correct but you are asking alot of the unwashed masses who feel they are entitled to getting free birth control, free abortion on demand, free medical care, EBT cards to use on everything they want, not the basic necessities that they need to survive, and free obamaphones.
You are also asking alot of these same people to expect them to become informed about the candidates and the problems threatening this Nation both from outside our borders but also from within our borders when they are more concerned about who is going to get bounced off American idol this week.
And you are asking alot from this same group of morons who have no problem camping outside a Best Buy for 3 days in order to save a few bucks on a large screen TV yet they whine and demand early voting privileges (and all the problems of fraud that goes along with that) because they can't be inconvenienced by having to wait a few minutes in line on election day.
My view of this Nation's future was seriously degraded on the night of 11/6/12. I no longer look at the U.S. the way I did growing up in the '60's. '70's and '80's. We landed a man on the moon less than 10 years after the challenge to do so was thrown down by the President. Now we a president who is more concerned about NASA making muslims feel good about themselves than he is about exploring beyond the planet Earth. I feel this Nation's best days are behind us and a large majority of the population and our so called elected representatives couldn't give a crap about how far down the shitter we are going.
I fear you are correct.
H5, sir.
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You are correct but you are asking alot of the unwashed masses who feel they are entitled to getting free birth control, free abortion on demand, free medical care, EBT cards to use on everything they want, not the basic necessities that they need to survive, and free obamaphones.
You are also asking alot of these same people to expect them to become informed about the candidates and the problems threatening this Nation both from outside our borders but also from within our borders when they are more concerned about who is going to get bounced off American idol this week.
And you are asking alot from this same group of morons who have no problem camping outside a Best Buy for 3 days in order to save a few bucks on a large screen TV yet they whine and demand early voting privileges (and all the problems of fraud that goes along with that) because they can't be inconvenienced by having to wait a few minutes in line on election day.
That may be, but I trust them more than I do career politicians in imposing term limits.