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Title: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on December 14, 2012, 12:22:12 PM
Pitt starts the ball rolling on the "making political hay with a tragedy" regarding the school shooting in CT.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021976703

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BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA

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NECN is reporting a shooting at an elementary school in Newtown CT.

At an elementary school.

BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A ****ING FA CHRISSAKES GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA. NOT AT ALL. SECOND AMENDMENT. SPOONS DON'T MAKE YOU FAT.

Associated Press: 27 dead, 18 children.

**** YOU.

http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,3969911.story

There is the usual pile on and then this gem pops up:
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10. ...and that's the 352,998th time this shit has been posted.

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"President Kennedy Assassinated By Sword-Wielding Loner"

"Martin Luther King Jr. Laid Low By Meat Cleaver"

"Senator Robert Kennedy Murdered By Axe In California"

...said no headline ever.

Guns kill people with almost breathtaking ease. It has happened so many times in the last few years that it boggles the mind that it even has to be argued any more.

**** your argument. Shove that shit where it belongs.

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****ing gunfire ****ing erupted in a ****ing elementary school near a bunch of ****ing children.

That ****ing sucks.

Your ****ing concern over my ****ing choice of language is ****ing absurd.

Under the ****ing circumstances.
Pitt always retreats to what he knows best, swearing and being a douche.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Chris_ on December 14, 2012, 12:25:03 PM
We don't have a gun problem.  We have a people problem, thanks to liberals, progressives, hippies, and other assorted degenerates and useless flotsam who have turned this country into Sodom and Gomorrah.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on December 14, 2012, 12:29:21 PM
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DisgustipatedinCA (4,724 posts)
158. Why do you hesitate? We have a mass shooting every other week or so.

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May as well speak up now, because there's not going to be much of a lull in the action.

Here's my entry for your request for specific legislation: require handgun owners to keep their weapons in an armory somewhere, and check them out when they want to shoot targets. Penalty for possessing a handgun illegally (at home, away from the armory): 20 years. Penalty for using an illegal handgun in the commission of a crime: 50 years.
:banghead:
The shooting took place in a gun free school zone. The shooter did not obey that law, why would they obey any other?  :banghead:
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Chris_ on December 14, 2012, 12:30:40 PM
:banghead:
The shooting took place in a gun free school zone. The shooter did not obey that law, why would they obey any other?  :banghead:
Idiots, all of them.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 14, 2012, 12:31:31 PM
Just pray for the health of the five judges who stand between us and effective abolition of the Second Amendment.

The muslim will make it happen if he gets the chance over the next four years.

He only needs to replace one.

Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Carl on December 14, 2012, 12:38:28 PM
And yet they want to legalize every drug known to man so a bunch of doped out losers can wander among us to do whatever happens to make sense to them at that second.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Toastedturningtidelegs on December 14, 2012, 12:39:45 PM
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[99Forever (2,762 posts)
6. It's almost daily now.

The new normal, NRA style.

Send your kids to school to get shot by one of their gun fetish psychos.

Nice.
/quote]Huh? School shootings happen daily now? Huh...I must not have been paying attention  :thatsright: ::)
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: FiddyBeowulf on December 14, 2012, 12:41:31 PM
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141. My proposed solution

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bigger font on the "Gun Free Zone" sign
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/29038467.jpg)
It was posted on DU so it could be one or the other.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: delilahmused on December 14, 2012, 12:46:12 PM
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[99Forever (2,762 posts)
6. It's almost daily now.

The new normal, NRA style.

Send your kids to school to get shot by one of their gun fetish psychos.

Nice.
/quote]Huh? School shootings happen daily now? Huh...I must not have been paying attention

Yeah cuz every shooter has been a right wing nut job...OH WAIT!!!

Cindie
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Karin on December 14, 2012, 01:01:16 PM
We don't have a gun problem.  We have a people problem, thanks to liberals, progressives, hippies, and other assorted degenerates and useless flotsam who have turned this country into Sodom and Gomorrah.

I agree, Chris.  We've lost the moral core. 

I said in the shout box that this used to be my neck of the woods.  A nice, decent little town.  Not a Bridgeport-type hellhole, more like Bedford Falls.  My prayers to everyone who is in indescribable pain today.  None of this will ever make sense, but I hope we get some answers soon. 
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: jukin on December 14, 2012, 01:01:58 PM
Note how the violence out of uber-leftists in Hollywood never, ever comes into the discussion.

Quite frankly, I'm always appalled at how the left goes right into politicizing such tragedies.....unless it is done by the religion of peace. The leftist does not even let the bodies get cold.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Duke Nukum on December 14, 2012, 01:02:48 PM

Denver Fire Attack: 4 Sprayed With Flammable Liquid, Set On Fire  (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/14/denver-fire-attack_n_2297829.html)

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DENVER — Police searched Friday for two men who used a pump sprayer to douse four people with a flammable liquid at a Denver apartment then set them on fire.

But no! We don't have a pump sprayer problem in this country!
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Splashdown on December 14, 2012, 01:15:02 PM
Dont want to get into this right now. I'm the dad of two elementary students.

Guns are illegal in school zones. How did that law help?

**** you Will Pitt. Can you let the bodies cool before you start your inane ****ing babbling? Find someone willing to have a kid with you. Have a kid. Then shut the **** up for a day or two.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: dandi on December 14, 2012, 01:33:29 PM
Oh look, another alcohol soaked rage-rant from the NYT bestselling pamphleteer. It's a little early to be in your cups already, Willie. But as the saying goes, "The Sun is over the yardarm somewhere in the world", right?

 :cheersmate:
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: NHSparky on December 14, 2012, 01:42:58 PM
Will--go suck-start a ****ing shotgun already.  Enough.

Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Freeper on December 14, 2012, 01:48:29 PM
It's not a gun problem, it's not a political problem, this is a cultural problem. We value life so little that we murder the unborn without a care in the world. We encourage people to have the morals of an alley cat then wonder why there is no morality anymore. The left built this shit and as always they point the finger at those who oppose what we have become.

We can ban guns till the cows come home and all that will do is disarm the decent and civilized people and arm the sickos.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 14, 2012, 01:50:55 PM
Dont want to get into this right now. I'm the dad of two elementary students.

Guns are illegal in school zones. How did that law help?

**** you Will Pitt. Can you let the bodies cool before you start your inane ****ing babbling? Find someone willing to have a kid with you. Have a kid. Then shut the **** up for a day or two.

I'm the dad of a kindergarten student.  I'm with you.

Remember something--Will Pitt, Internet Badass.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: jukin on December 14, 2012, 01:52:10 PM
I have a correlation of 1 with mass killings and democrat presidents.

UT tower shooting 8/1/1966 LBJ democrat president
OKC Murrah bombing 4/19/1995 Clinton democrat president
Littleton Columbine shooting 4/20/1999 Clinton democrat president
Virginia Teck shooting 4/16/2009 0bama democrat president
Fort Hood shooting 11/5/2009 0bama democrat president
Newtown Elementary School shooting12/14/2012 0bama democrat president

Therefore I propose that we outlaw democrat presidents.

Having said that just to illustrate DUche absurdity, my heart goes out to all the parents and relatives. I can't imagine their loss.  
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: dandi on December 14, 2012, 02:03:39 PM
I have a correlation of 1 with mass killings and democrat presidents.

UT tower shooting 8/1/1966 LBJ democrat president
OKC Murrah bombing 4/19/1995 Clinton democrat president
Littleton Columbine shooting 4/20/1999 Clinton democrat president
Virginia Teck shooting 4/16/2009 0bama democrat president
Fort Hood shooting 11/5/2009 0bama democrat president
Newtown Elementary School shooting12/14/2012 0bama democrat president

Therefore I propose that we outlaw democrat presidents.

Having said that just to illustrate DUche absurdity, my heart goes out to all the parents and relatives. I can't imagine their loss.  

Well remember, every time some particularly egregious crime happened from 2000-2008, it was, "Welcome to Bush's America".

I can honestly believe something a little nutty has happened to Americans in the last four years, especially since we re-elected the bumbling fool currently occupying the Oval Office.

So with this recent spate of mass murders, I have no problem at all saying, "Welcome to Obama's America".
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Randy on December 14, 2012, 02:28:57 PM
We do have a gun problem in America. It's a serious problem too. Libs have demonized guns and good, legal gun owners to the point that people are not allowed to protect themselves. This is a seriously alarming gun problem.

The news fags are wailing there's no easy way to solve these shootings. There is one, a very very simple solution but the ***** lib agenda will never allow them to ever see it.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: wasp69 on December 14, 2012, 02:30:28 PM
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BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA

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NECN is reporting a shooting at an elementary school in Newtown CT.

Whoa, hold on a minute, wee William Whoreson.  Where did you say this happened?  Connecticut?  Hmmmm....  I'm just a knuckle-dragging hillbilly, but I don't recall Connecticut being known for its lax gun laws.  How is this a problem with a law abiding citizen carrying a firearm?

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At an elementary school.

Ah, now I see the problem.  Another liberal created "gun free zone", another area where any motivated psychopath can turn it into a free fire zone without anyone else being able to shoot back.

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BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A ****ING FA CHRISSAKES GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA. NOT AT ALL. SECOND AMENDMENT. SPOONS DON'T MAKE YOU FAT.

Okay, drunken wastrel, I'm going to try and make this as simple as I can for your pickled brain:
 

Did you get that, Willie?  There are a lot of people dead right now because you timid ****s have decided that the rest of us need to be as craven and cowardly as you.  As far as I'm concerned, you are responsible for these deaths much more than I.

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Associated Press: 27 dead, 18 children.

A headline, no, a legacy that has to make you gun grabbing liberal ****s sweaty with glee.

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**** YOU.

**** me?  No, you cowardly piece of shit, **** you.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 14, 2012, 02:32:39 PM
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BEIJING (Reuters) - A knife-wielding man slashed 22 children and an adult at an elementary school in central China on Friday, state media reported, the latest in a series of attacks on schoolchildren in the country.
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There have been a series of attacks on schools and schoolchildren around China in recent years, some by people who have lost their jobs or felt left out of the country's economic boom.

http://www.courant.com/sns-rt-us-china-stabbingsbre8bd065-20121213,0,5592318.story
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: CactusCarlos on December 14, 2012, 03:08:27 PM
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NECN is reporting a shooting at an elementary school in Newtown CT.

At an elementary school.

BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A ****ING FA CHRISSAKES GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA. NOT AT ALL. SECOND AMENDMENT. SPOONS DON'T MAKE YOU FAT.

Associated Press: 27 dead, 18 children.

**** YOU.

http://www.courant.com/ne...-20121214,0,3969911.story

**** you back. 

Know where this rarely happens?  In Israel, WHERE THE TEACHERS ARE ARMED!
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Ptarmigan on December 14, 2012, 03:10:01 PM
They need to shut up about this. This not a time for politics.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 14, 2012, 03:26:57 PM
I'm the dad of a kindergarten student.  I'm with you.

Remember something--Will Pitt, Internet Badass.
You know, the unemployable Pitt is a hopeless alcoholic. But every year far more little kids are killed due to someone being under the influence of alcohol than have ever died in America due to criminal use of a firearm.

I wonder why the unemployable Pitt isn't making one of his vulgar posts in favor of prohibiting alcohol?
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: J P Sousa on December 14, 2012, 04:00:15 PM
Hey DUmmies look:


Maybe not exactly the same but;

Man Stabs 22 Children at Chinese Elementary School

December 14, 2012

Chinese state media say a man stabbed 22 children and an adult at an elementary school in central China on Friday.
 

In March 2010, a man described as an unemployed middle-aged doctor killed eight children with a knife at a school in the southern city of Nanping.
 
Some observers say the attacks have highlighted a weakness in the Chinese medical system's ability to diagnose and treat psychiatric illnesses, which have been on the rise as many are unable to cope with the rapid pace of social change.

http://www.voanews.com/co...ntary-school/1564820.html
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Linda on December 14, 2012, 04:31:51 PM
Then it's time to BAN the KNIVES!!!!

Oh wait, how many people die in car accidents every year...
Then it is time to BAN the CARS too!!!

Ban the pencils in schools to, why, because then darn things can't get a right answer on any of the tests, so they must be faulty.. it can't be because the students are dumb....

What the hell happened to the Here's you sign that read "STUPID" for these idiots that want more gun control when ever something like this happens? If the adults had been armed at the school things might not have ended so badly.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Airwolf on December 14, 2012, 06:21:19 PM
How about we ban jerk offs that go around hanging with people that are in jail for soliciting under age girls and write books with them first.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: USA4ME on December 14, 2012, 06:43:22 PM
The bodies aren't even cold and he's trying to politicize the situation.  What a jerk!

If only these soulless liberals could work up even half that amount of rage over the murder of the unborn.

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Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: MrsSmith on December 14, 2012, 08:05:01 PM
**** you back. 

Know where this rarely happens?  In Israel, WHERE THE TEACHERS ARE ARMED!

  :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: MrsSmith on December 14, 2012, 08:06:21 PM
Hey DUmmies look:


Maybe not exactly the same but;

Man Stabs 22 Children at Chinese Elementary School

December 14, 2012

Chinese state media say a man stabbed 22 children and an adult at an elementary school in central China on Friday.
 

In March 2010, a man described as an unemployed middle-aged doctor killed eight children with a knife at a school in the southern city of Nanping.
 
Some observers say the attacks have highlighted a weakness in the Chinese medical system's ability to diagnose and treat psychiatric illnesses, which have been on the rise as many are unable to cope with the rapid pace of social change.

http://www.voanews.com/co...ntary-school/1564820.html

The guy that killed his father in Wyoming did it with an arrow. 

What we need is responsible, armed teachers and officials in our schools.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Traveshamockery on December 14, 2012, 08:26:44 PM
We don't have a gun problem.  We have a people problem, thanks to liberals, progressives, hippies, and other assorted degenerates and useless flotsam who have turned this country into Sodom and Gomorrah.



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Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: delilahmused on December 15, 2012, 12:16:58 AM
Dont want to get into this right now. I'm the dad of two elementary students.

Guns are illegal in school zones. How did that law help?

**** you Will Pitt. Can you let the bodies cool before you start your inane ****ing babbling? Find someone willing to have a kid with you. Have a kid. Then shut the **** up for a day or two.

All day I kept thinking if any of those adults he encountered before he got to the kindergarteners were carrying he never would've gotten there. I'd have absolutely no problem dropping that asshole right where he was. Gun free zones insure only those who don't care about the rule of law have guns.

Cindie
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: diesel driver on December 15, 2012, 03:15:04 AM
When I heard about this, my first thought was where was the security officer for this school? 

When I heard about the shooter and his background, that he was the product of a broken home, and son to a teacher, I knew he was the result of liberal policies and upbringing.

You can't blame this on the gun, put the blame squarely where it belongs:  On Liberalism!
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: delilahmused on December 15, 2012, 03:57:12 AM
When I heard about this, my first thought was where was the security officer for this school? 

When I heard about the shooter and his background, that he was the product of a broken home, and son to a teacher, I knew he was the result of liberal policies and upbringing.

You can't blame this on the gun, put the blame squarely where it belongs:  On Liberalism!

Same here. The Thurston HS shooting that happened here a long while ago (wasn't babies like this one) was similar. Both parents were teachers. Their son had bipolar depression. His pdoc suggested he be taken out of school & be homeschooled. Took his meds regularly and just thrived in that environment. Unfortunately, being public school teachers, as soon as the kid started to show positive improvement they shoved his ass back into the cesspool. Sorry to all of you who send your kids to liberal indoctrination institutions but IMO they really are the armpit of the country.

My nana's generation, they carried rifles to school when they were going hunting on the way home. Now we send kids into "gun free zones" so that some insane creep can use them as ducks in a shooting gallery while they're being taught to talk their way through whatever problem they're having with another person...yeah that'll work with a homicidal maniac.

Cindie
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: ExGeeEye on December 15, 2012, 04:44:29 AM
We don't have a gun problem.  We have a people problem, thanks to liberals, progressives, hippies, and other assorted degenerates and useless flotsam who have turned this country into Sodom and Gomorrah.

We do, however, have gun solutions.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: whiffleball on December 15, 2012, 06:43:43 AM
Pitt you're a soulless POS!  Just like all those jumping on the Ban Guns bandwagon right now.  Instead of respectful words or silence you rip right into your political agenda.  There are 18 innocents dead right now, but politics trump that for leftists. 
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 15, 2012, 10:54:24 AM
My nana's generation, they carried rifles to school when they were going hunting on the way home. Now we send kids into "gun free zones" so that some insane creep can use them as ducks in a shooting gallery

A lot of us did that when I was in high school.

Of course, our schools were 0bamaite-free zones, and addled kids were institutionalized.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: txradioguy on December 15, 2012, 11:04:19 AM
This is one of those time I sincerely wish ArmPitt would use a 9mm as a hairbrush.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: jukin on December 15, 2012, 11:40:44 AM
I got really drunk last night so I was on an equal mental footing as your typical DUmbshit. It occurred to me that the leftists should look at this like they do the muslim problem. Remember that we can't punish the muslims because that will just make them madder at us. Well, if you punish the gun owners won't that make us madder at leftists? By their own (lack of) logic shouldn't they be extra nice to gun owners so we do not get mad and start going murderous rampages like the muzzies?

I guess this is just another sign of mental illness of the left. Much like how taxing cigarettes and sodas will lower their consumption but taxing investments will make people invest more.

Leftism=Mental Disease

It. Is. That. Simple.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Ballygrl on December 15, 2012, 12:40:57 PM
I'm fed-up with the left using every tragedy to further their causes.

No, we don't have a gun problem in the US, we have an illegal gun problem in the US, and you know what we also have a lack of in the schools in the US? we have a lack of God! the more God is pushed away the more evil our society is becoming. And I'll also add the way we deal with mental illness is ridiculous, we protect the rights of those who are mentally ill instead of protecting the innocent victims of them.

Yeah I'm pissed off!
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Airwolf on December 15, 2012, 01:47:10 PM
This is one of those time I sincerely wish ArmPitt would use a 9mm as a hairbrush.

You and me both TRG.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 15, 2012, 05:51:05 PM
When I heard about this, my first thought was where was the security officer for this school? 

When I heard about the shooter and his background, that he was the product of a broken home, and son to a teacher, I knew he was the result of liberal policies and upbringing.

You can't blame this on the gun, put the blame squarely where it belongs:  On Liberalism!

Well, this article suggests a place to put some blame:

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Obama administration, Congress quietly let school security funds lapse

Before Connecticut tragedy, administration eliminated emergency preparedness program, let school violence prevention programs lapse

UPDATED 23:43 PM EST, DECEMBER 14, 2012 | BY JOHN SOLOMON AND KIMBERLY DVORAK

Beneath the expressions of grief, sorrow and disbelief over the Connecticut school massacre lies an uneasy truth in Washington: over the last few years the Obama administration and Congress quietly let federal funding for several key school security programs lapse in the name of budget savings.

Government officials told the Washington Guardian on Friday night that two Justice Department programs that had provided more than $200 million to schools for training, security equipment and police resources over the last decade weren't renewed in 2011 and 2012, and that a separate program that provided $800 million to put police officers inside the schools was ended a few years earlier.

Meanwhile, the administration eliminated funding in 2011-12 for a separate Education Department program that gave money to schools to prepare for mass tragedies, the officials said.

A nationally recognized school security expert said those funds had been critical for years in helping schools continue to enhance protections against growing threats of violence. But they simply dried up with little notice as the Columbine and Virginia Tech school shooting tragedies faded from memory and many Americans and political leaders had their attentions diverted to elections, a weak economy and overseas dramas.

“I was baffled to see funds and programs cut in these areas,” said Kenneth Trump, the president of the National School Safety and Security Services firm that helps school districts and policymakers improve protections for teachers and students. “Our political and policy leaders need to walk the walk, not just talk the talk about being concerned about school safety.

The rest is here:  http://www.washingtonguardian.com/washingtons-school-security-failure

Hmmm . . .

Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: txradioguy on December 16, 2012, 04:32:32 AM
When I heard about this, my first thought was where was the security officer for this school? 

When I heard about the shooter and his background, that he was the product of a broken home, and son to a teacher, I knew he was the result of liberal policies and upbringing.

You can't blame this on the gun, put the blame squarely where it belongs:  On Liberalism!

There's a report on Drudge that says the DoJ and the WH let's the funds for stuff like school security run out and chose not to renew them in the budget almost two years ago.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: Big Dog on December 16, 2012, 12:49:38 PM
My nana's generation, they carried rifles to school when they were going hunting on the way home. Now we send kids into "gun free zones" so that some insane creep can use them as ducks in a shooting gallery while they're being taught to talk their way through whatever problem they're having with another person...yeah that'll work with a homicidal maniac.

Cindie

I went to high school at a country school in Nebraska. Not only did we keep rifles and shotguns in our vehicles, we had a PE class where we shot trap! We even had a trapshooting team. I made a walnut stock and fore end for an Ithaca shotgun in my junior year wood shop class.

The county 4-H shooting team had a range out past the practice field, shot .22s there all summer long.
Title: Re: BUT NO, WE DON'T HAVE A GUN PROBLEM IN AMERICA
Post by: AprilRazz on December 16, 2012, 03:34:40 PM
I have a correlation of 1 with mass killings and democrat presidents.

UT tower shooting 8/1/1966 LBJ democrat president
OKC Murrah bombing 4/19/1995 Clinton democrat president
Littleton Columbine shooting 4/20/1999 Clinton democrat president
Virginia Teck shooting 4/16/2009 0bama democrat president
Fort Hood shooting 11/5/2009 0bama democrat president
Newtown Elementary School shooting12/14/2012 0bama democrat president

Therefore I propose that we outlaw democrat presidents.

Having said that just to illustrate DUche absurdity, my heart goes out to all the parents and relatives. I can't imagine their loss. 
While I agree with your point one of your dates are a little off. The VA Tech shooting was in 2007. But you can also add the Branch Davidian bungle during Clinton's presidency where Janet Reno let all those children die.