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Title: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: thundley4 on December 12, 2012, 08:21:45 PM
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babylonsister (142,076 posts) Wed Dec 12, 2012, 01:02 PM


A Preview of the ’12-12-12 Concert and Where to Watch

An all-star musical lineup that crosses genres and generations will band together at Madison Square Garden this evening for the “12-12-12″ Sandy relief concert.

Helping to kick off the concert will be Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band at 7:30 p.m. Other featured acts include Alicia Keys, Billy Joel, Kanye West, Paul McCartney, Eric Clapton and The Who. Specific set-lists haven’t been announced, a spokeswoman for Madison Square Garden said.

The concert is sold out, but organizers say the concert will be available to “nearly two billion” people across the globe on TV and on the Web.

If you want to watch, there are several options.Thirty-four television stations will broadcast the concert, including AMC, the Smithsonian Channel and HBO. Additionally, another 30 websites — including Hulu, AOL and Yahoo YHOO -0.38% — will stream the show live. Two Sirius XM stations, Channel 20 and Channel 22, will play the show.

Money from the benefit concert will go to the Robin Hood Foundation, a New York City group. More details are available on the concert’s website. Speakeasy will cover the concert from inside Madison Square Garden, so check in later for more.

http://www.121212concert.org/

Lots more musicians: just read Eddie Vetter will be performing with Roger Waters. Sounds good to me! Give generously if you can; the east coast is still a nightmare.  
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021966664

20 some odd replies and not mentions donating to the cause , nor do they mention Obama's huge failure of dealing with Summer storm Sandy.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Chris_ on December 12, 2012, 08:26:41 PM
BabblingSister must have written that last line on her own... it's spelled wrong.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 12, 2012, 08:30:03 PM
The affected area is solid blue and nothing will change that.

That puts them in a precarious position.

The normal parts of the country could not care less if they live or die, and the jug-eared muslim knows they're solid democrat no matter what he does.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: thundley4 on December 12, 2012, 08:34:29 PM
Why don't these celebrities ever do benefits when the mid west gets hit by mother nature? 

Sure there was a concert when Nashville flooded a few years ago, but it was country musicians that put it on.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Chris_ on December 12, 2012, 08:40:29 PM
Why don't these celebrities ever do benefits when the mid west gets hit by mother nature? 

Sure there was a concert when Nashville flooded a few years ago, but it was country musicians that put it on.
Are you kidding?  We barely got 30 seconds from Brian Williams.  Nevermind that there were people's houses floating down the interstate.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 12, 2012, 08:40:59 PM
I'd be curious to know if an actual victim of a natural disaster has ever seen a direct benefit from a benefit concert.

It probably happens, but I've never heard of it.

I suspect most of the people who benefit are the producers, agents, lawyers, etc.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Freeper on December 12, 2012, 09:04:02 PM
I thought 0bama and FEMA had fixed everything.

Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: jukin on December 12, 2012, 09:09:46 PM
Thank Satan that the Sandy victims did not fail 0bama.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 12, 2012, 09:15:31 PM
Mitt's bus got their first.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Alpha Mare on December 12, 2012, 09:28:10 PM
I have to say, this is a damned good concert though. 
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Skul on December 13, 2012, 02:30:04 AM
This must have been what gNads was whinning about in one of her threads. Sheeesh
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Karin on December 13, 2012, 07:34:25 AM
I'd be curious to know if an actual victim of a natural disaster has ever seen a direct benefit from a benefit concert.

I believe P.J. O'Rourke did a study on this.  The answer is no.  Especially when it involves foreign issues, such as Bangladesh.  I believe that not One Damned Dime went to help a single soul. 

Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Splashdown on December 13, 2012, 07:37:25 AM
The affected area is solid blue and nothing will change that.

That puts them in a precarious position.

The normal parts of the country could not care less if they live or die, and the jug-eared muslim knows they're solid democrat no matter what he does.

Dead on.

I refuse to pitch in a cent. The want "the government" to take care of them? So be it.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: vesta111 on December 13, 2012, 07:47:14 AM
This must have been what gNads was whinning about in one of her threads. Sheeesh

Robin Hood Charity's OH MY.

Steal from the rich to give to the poor has many meanings.    Who is to decide who is the rich or the poor ???

How do we sort them out ?????  Lets start at not the top but the bottom shall we.

Poorest neighborhood in town, the Police have lockers of stolen bikes they can auction off to the Public.  Instead
of this they go into the neighborhood and sell raffle tickets to the kids for .25 cents each.   At least 100+ kids will have their name drawn.

The lucky kids that have their name drawn will go home with a Bike.   Ah but there are others that either didn't have their name drawn or were not about to spend a trifling on a raffle as it would cut into their drug money.

Now the lucky kids with bikes make them victims of those that have no bike.  The kids with the bikes are now considered rich by those that have none.   Bottom the so called poor either steal these bikes as they consider it their due or themselves as Robin Hood, steal from the rich to give to the poor.

All is about how the rich and poor is designanted.   Horrid Name for a Charity, Robin Hood,  does this mean that my backyard grill is up for grabs by a family that has none ????   Once they steal it is it up for grabs for others that do not have one, others poorer then themselves ??????   Before you know it the grill is totally trashed found in a homeless camp.

You no longer have a $800 grill, the thieves that stole it no longer have it, the thieves that stole it from the first thieves no longer have it and it now is a heap of garbage in the woods.

Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Mr Mannn on December 13, 2012, 07:51:19 AM
If the victims of Sandy were black...would the outcome have been different?
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: franksolich on December 13, 2012, 07:55:48 AM
I thought 0bama and FEMA had fixed everything.



I thought so too.

Given that the mainstream news media hasn't said anything, I figured life is back to normal there; that everything's been all sorted out and put back into place as if nothing happened.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Wineslob on December 13, 2012, 09:22:41 AM
I thought so too.

Given that the mainstream news media hasn't said anything, I figured life is back to normal there; that everything's been all sorted out and put back into place as if nothing happened.



Nope, it's not chocolate enough.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: jukin on December 13, 2012, 09:29:21 AM
If the victims of Sandy were black...would the outcome have been different?

I do not know but am 100% confidant that the media's reporting of it would be.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Ballygrl on December 13, 2012, 12:19:10 PM
The concert was awesome until Kanye West came on and did rap music, and I wasn't the only 1 that was annoyed at it.

BTW, where were all the black people in the audience?
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Freeper on December 13, 2012, 01:18:27 PM
I thought so too.

Given that the mainstream news media hasn't said anything, I figured life is back to normal there; that everything's been all sorted out and put back into place as if nothing happened.

They also go around claiming what great job 0bama did and he was a true leader. So what I think is happening is they did this concert so us rethugs who think things aren't fixed would donate money and they will pocket it. Or the media lied about how Barry fixed it all.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: IassaFTots on December 13, 2012, 01:20:46 PM


Nope, it's not chocolate enough.

Much like the Mississippi Gulf Coast wasn't.   :whatever: 
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Kyle Ricky on December 13, 2012, 01:28:51 PM
The concert was awesome until Kanye West came on and did rap music, and I wasn't the only 1 that was annoyed at it.

BTW, where were all the black people in the audience?

I was seeing reports this morning that were saying about the black community being upset over the lack of black people there, and the feminines are all upset because Alicia Keys was the only female headliner.

I agree with your statement about Kanye. A lof of people said that he sucked. And they gave him more time than Clapton and Billy Joel! Grrr ...

Above all the, the concert was awesome. I wish I was there. .
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: zeitgeist on December 13, 2012, 06:37:35 PM
How much did this concert cost the taxpayer?  Do the entertainers get to deduct the value of their time as a charitable deduction?  I would suspect they do.

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,80889.msg989060.html#msg989060


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There's an old joke about a boy who complains to his mother that his little sister keeps pulling his hair.

"Oh," responds the mother, "she doesn't know that it hurts."

A few minutes later, the mother hears the girl scream and runs into the other room. "She knows now," the boy explains.


From the article at the link above.... 

It is way past time to soak the Hollywierd Elite and their sycophants. I am all in favor of heavily taxing things like movies and music which are not necessary to sustain life. My rep didn't see the delicious irony of taxing them but then he didn't see a lot of things which is likely why he is gone in January.

Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: BigTex on December 13, 2012, 07:12:26 PM
Ill never understand the fascination of watching a concert on TV. Going to one live can be an experience but watching on TV its just out of tune/sync/key music getting drowned out by cheering.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Alpha Mare on December 13, 2012, 07:44:48 PM
The concert was awesome until Kanye West came on and did rap music, and I wasn't the only 1 that was annoyed at it.

BTW, where were all the black people in the audience?

I muted the speechs, Springsteen, etc.  The screen still showed what they want singing.  Until KW.  Guess they couldn't understand him either.  :whistling:
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Freeper on December 13, 2012, 07:47:43 PM
Maybe I am being petty, but I refused to watch because on stage were a bunch of rich people aka 1 percenters who were asking middle class and poor people to donate money. How many of the stars opened their own checkbooks for this?

Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: diesel driver on December 13, 2012, 07:52:29 PM
I watched Pink Floyd for a while, before I went to sleep to "Another Brick In The Wall".
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Freeper on December 13, 2012, 07:55:44 PM
I watched Pink Floyd for a while, before I went to sleep to "Another Brick In The Wall".

That wasn't Pink Floyd it was just Roger Waters.  :-)
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Alpha Mare on December 13, 2012, 07:57:02 PM
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Memorabilia from the event is now being auctioned off on the website CharityBuzz.com. Some of the top bids so far include $36,000 for a Fender guitar autographed by Paul McCartney, Springsteen, Roger Daltrey, Billy Joel, Dave Grohl, Chris Martin, Michael Stipe, Eric Clapton and Jon Bon Jovi. (Someone clearly thought to capitalize on the rare occasion of having so many legendary musicians in one venue.)

 As of Thursday afternoon, a sweatshirt worn on stage by Kanye West had attracted exactly zero bidders, which just seems like something worth mentioning.

Maybe he should auction his skirt.  :lmao:
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 13, 2012, 08:03:16 PM
Maybe I am being petty, but I refused to watch because on stage were a bunch of rich people aka 1 percenters who were asking middle class and poor people to donate money. How many of the stars opened their own checkbooks for this?
Well, the performers probably weren't paid, but when they do benefits they get a deduction equal to their normal concert fee.

So they'll open their checkbooks to enter a deposit.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Lacarnut on December 13, 2012, 09:51:51 PM
If the victims of Sandy were black...would the outcome have been different?

They voted for Obummer so they can eat cake.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Kyle Ricky on December 14, 2012, 12:20:08 AM
Well, the performers probably weren't paid, but when they do benefits they get a deduction equal to their normal concert fee.

So they'll open their checkbooks to enter a deposit.

Yeah, none of the performers were paid to be there last night.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: Chris_ on December 14, 2012, 12:32:32 AM
Yeah, none of the performers were paid to be there last night.
I would not be surprised if they all claimed it as a charitable contribution... those go a long way to putting off the tax man.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: zeitgeist on December 14, 2012, 06:22:12 AM
I would not be surprised if they all claimed it as a charitable contribution... those go a long way to putting off the tax man.

Exactly my point up thread.  They use a loophole not available to the middle class to shelter their vast wealth from the tax man.  /DU   Ironic isn't it that the Boss daughter is a horse person just like Ann Romney and he a wealthy dude who sings the middle class 'blues'.  DUmmies are just, well, so DUmb as to lap this right up and beg for more.  Please spare me.  They open their pie holes and sound comes out which they exploit for money.  Idolatry and narcissm for profit is what it is, little more.  It is time to tax the shit out of these bastards like the Brits did the Beatles. Ditto movie stars. I won't be happy until they are all shopping at Goodwill and burning their furniture to heat their mansions. :rotf:     
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: GOBUCKS on December 14, 2012, 11:20:46 AM
I would not be surprised if they all claimed it as a charitable contribution... those go a long way to putting off the tax man.

They would be foolish if they did not.

The tax code tries to encourage charitable giving by making it deductible.

Any change would be devastating to churches and thousands of legitimate charitable organizations.

There's constant whining about "loopholes", but most of them were put in to the tax code for very positive reasons.

Tax "loopholes" are among the very few instances where government can encourage behavior that's beneficial to everyone.

I think the "zero deduction flat tax" would be catastrophic - but it's as likely to happen as a Martian invasion.
Title: Re: Obama failed Sandy victims.
Post by: jukin on December 14, 2012, 01:35:02 PM
They would be foolish if they did not.

The tax code tries to encourage charitable giving by making it deductible.

Any change would be devastating to churches and thousands of legitimate charitable organizations.

There's constant whining about "loopholes", but most of them were put in to the tax code for very positive reasons.

Tax "loopholes" are among the very few instances where government can encourage behavior that's beneficial to everyone.

I think the "zero deduction flat tax" would be catastrophic - but it's as likely to happen as a Martian invasion.

I disagree. The Hollywood Illiteratti get to take "in kind" deductions (write off for what they would have charged) which is much different than actually giving money to a charity. It is a loophole that only benefits the entertainment industry. I do not get to deduct my hourly consulting rate when I volunteer hours at my church or any charity. This is a place where the republicans should come out and hit the Hollywood Illiteratti .001%ers in public discourse and stop that which is a real LOOPHOLE.  This is how may B, C, D listers screw the benevolent government. They would never have sold the hours that the donate because they can't.