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This again?
loyalkydem (1,268 posts)
Is this the time for a nationwide General Strike, check in if you agree
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I think the only way the conservative owned media is going to seriously take our demands at face value is if every worker strikes like they did back in the 60s. I think it was on The Last Word where they showed the origins of the UAW and how they gained power after a 44 day strike. I am of the growing opinion that maybe we need to have a nationwide strike. Followed by a nationwide boycott to get their attention. Of course I'm just throwing out ideas, but if you agree or have a better idea of how we can force their hand to see things our way chime in.
Lots of fist-hump--er--pumping ensues.
KharmaTrain (29,886 posts)
7. How About Rejuvenating The Union Movement First...
Do you really think you can get 200 million or so people to just stop working? Or 100 million? Nice dreaming. Especially since we see Union membership at all time lows. And that's the problem. The union movement suffered from decades of apathy...it was something you "hadda" join rather than understanding what and why they exist. Many industries had their unions busted altogether and thus its power to affect elections ebbed opening the door for what we've seen happen in Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio and surely will in other states.
We live in times where union solidarity is thin...and its only after something bad has happened that there's a call to action. These "right-to-work" laws should have never been created in the first place as the unions lost the battle for hearts and minds that allowed rushpublicans to take control of these legislatures. It was the product of years of working from the grassroots up...getting their pawns in place and, as we just saw in Michigan, when the whip is cracked it can wipe out decades of social progress.
It's time for unions to be "cool" again. It needs to use these low moments to look and see how they can attract more members and regain their political clout. I was saddened to see that only 17% of Michigan households were union...a far cry from the nearly 50% it was a half century ago. If we're to fight the corporates and gain political and social justice, we need a far stronger union movement than we have right now...
If people WANTED to be in unions then RTW wouldn't be a threat.
hack89 (17,471 posts)
8. Perhaps something smaller on a city or state level first
I think you are seriously overestimating the support for a general strike of any kind.
plethoro (205 posts)
13. Now is the time. If we wait until there's a mosquito drone circling every building,
strikes will no longer be viable. And as far as this waiting for rejuvenation of the union movement first, a strike in itself would rejuvenate the union movement. Also, with respect to there really being much interest in having a strike now, once one union guy goes against a hired Xe type and gets hurt, whatever atavism lies dormant in that union guy will suddenly come to life. And spurn others to life, realizing that this is the approximate end.
Mosquito Drones: because black helicopters are so-o-o-o 2003!
Pakid (133 posts)
14. Should have happen a long time ago when
the rich first stared coming after our rights. But will it happen? I doubt it to many American lack the intelligence today to understand what is being done to them. Lets face it when half the nation votes against there own best interest how would you ever get them to go along. Today the rich pit one of us against another to get what they want and it works way to well. I hear it ever day how we need to take away from others instead of what I should be hearing is how do we improve my job. Until these fools wakeup it will only get worse. The first step that has to happen is to take away control of the media from the rich and from what I have seen we are still going the wrong way on that issue. So yes I would love to see one. But as walmart and black Friday showed it not going to happen anytime soon.
What did the rich take from you that you didn't first willingly give in free exchange for money or products?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021965571
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DUmbasses, ask yourselves:
"Why is making union participation voluntary the end of unions? Shouldn't it be beginning of the ultimate show of solidarity and strength? Shouldn't the "little people" be more determined now than ever to join a union? Why are we anti-individual socialist idiots so frightened of this? We are what people want, after all."
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Pakid has no business calling someone else a fool.
Today the rich pit one of us against another to get what they want and it works way to well
I agree! Barack Obama is a wealthy, wealthy man.
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Pakid has no business calling someone else a fool.
I agree! Barack Obama is a wealthy, wealthy man.
And Pelosi
And Reid
And the Kennedy clan
And Kerry
And Feinstein
And Michael Moore
And Soros
And Buffet
And Geithner
And the Solyndra execs
And the UAW execs
In fact, year-after-year the little thugs stamp their feet to force us to give their masters more and more power yet their own individual lots just get more and more miserable.
The only thing the DUmbasses have more of now is greed and envy for things they never earned.
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You know what--he's right. Let's all strike!
I'll be sure to turn off the power plant before I go home, and I'm sure all my brothers who run the other plants which supply electricity will join in.
Seriously, DUmmies--you reach a certain level of stupidity, you should stop, but you? Naw, you keep right on digging.
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You know what--he's right. Let's all strike!
Maybe just a taxpayers' strike.
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Go ahead .Go on strike. Lets see who ends up hurting worse. I'm betting a lot more of you union goons will fail at waiting out those that have already stocked up in case the economy goes tits up.
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Easy to holler for a strike when one is unemployed.
Get a job, DUmpmonkeys.
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Many industries had their unions busted altogether and thus its power to affect elections ebbed opening the door for what we've seen happen in Michigan
GOOD
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I think the only way the conservative owned media is going to seriously take our demands at face value is if every worker strikes like they did back in the 60s.
The lie is easily put to this. How much of the MSM covered the unionista violence in Michigan?
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Easy to holler for a strike when one is unemployed.
Get a job, DUmpmonkeys.
Y'all hit the meat right on the head with that one wildcat.
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I agree with them. I think they should all go on strike. We should too. We'll call it a solidarity vacation. And Obummer won't be getting any of our tax dollars either. That'll show 'em. :whatever:
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As soon as Right to Work becomes effective, declaring a strike is probably not going to have all that positive an effect on union membership rates, so I suspect that's the last thing on the unions' short-term agenda...they'll most likely go with bribery, intimidation, and general thuggery instead.
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Y'all hit the meat right on the head with that one wildcat.
Just trying to hammer it home, sir. :-)
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They love the idea of strikes, yet they've proven they can't have an effective one how many times now? I say let them strike, if anything it would be amusing to see such levels of failure.
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Rushpublicans
I really like that name! :-)
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I think the only way the conservative owned media is going to seriously take our demands...
He lost me right there.
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The unions can not articulate a reason for their continued existence. The unions behave in a manner that the most craven of corporate executives wouldn't ever dare. Have you ever seen a corporation send in "representatives" to "convince" a grocery store to only carry their canned goods? Have you ever seen a corporation launch physical attacks against persons and equipment for working for the corporations "client"?
I have seen unions force businesses to only hire from the unions approved labor pool. We all know what unions do to "scabs" and anyone that doesn't want to get with ther program. The unions are their own worst enemies.
The union structure from the 1960's doesn't work. They would do well to start from that thought.