The Conservative Cave

Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: formerlurker on December 11, 2012, 05:26:11 AM

Title: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: formerlurker on December 11, 2012, 05:26:11 AM
Quote
Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person

By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR 12/10/12 02:47 PM ET EST AP


WASHINGTON -- Your medical plan is facing an unexpected expense, so you probably are, too. It's a new, $63-per-head fee to cushion the cost of covering people with pre-existing conditions under President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.

The charge, buried in a recent regulation, works out to tens of millions of dollars for the largest companies, employers say. Most of that is likely to be passed on to workers.

Employee benefits lawyer Chantel Sheaks calls it a "sleeper issue" with significant financial consequences, particularly for large employers.

"Especially at a time when we are facing economic uncertainty, (companies will) be hit with a multi-million dollar assessment without getting anything back for it," said Sheaks, a principal at Buck Consultants, a Xerox subsidiary.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/10/obamacare-pre-existing-condition-fee_n_2273005.html?ncid=webmail2

Title: Re: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 11, 2012, 07:13:19 AM
As companies move off shore because of Obamacare, maybe we should call it "Pre-exiting conditions"?
Title: Re: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: thundley4 on December 11, 2012, 11:03:28 AM
Amazing how all these new taxes keep being discovered in this effed up law.  Who knows how many more will come out?
Title: Re: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 11, 2012, 11:05:03 AM
As companies move off shore because of Obamacare, maybe we should call it "Pre-exiting conditions"?

Well-played.
Title: Re: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: Freeper on December 11, 2012, 11:31:01 AM
Us that $63 per month, per paycheck, or what?
Title: Re: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: Dori on December 11, 2012, 11:46:22 AM
Us that $63 per month, per paycheck, or what?

It looks like it's assessed on the employer.  From the article;

Quote
It set the per capita rate at $5.25 per month, which works out to $63 a year.
It also said it's for 3 years, but you know how that will turn out... :mad:
Title: Re: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 11, 2012, 12:32:17 PM
It looks like it's assessed on the employer...

Who HAS to take it from the employees and/or customers. That means deferred compensation and higher prices.

"Broken Window" economics only benefits the glass-makers' lobby.
Title: Re: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: thundley4 on December 11, 2012, 12:44:40 PM
This should piss the DUmmies off, that money is going to the "Evil Big Insurance" companies.
Title: Re: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: DLR Pyro on December 11, 2012, 01:05:39 PM
Amazing how all these new taxes keep being discovered in this effed up law.  Who knows how many more will come out?
nancy pleosi was right when she said we would have to pass the bill to find out what's in it.  Too bad nobody took the time or effort to read it prior to saddling this Nation with all the new taxes and regulations.
Title: Re: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: Sam Dodd on December 11, 2012, 01:35:13 PM
As companies move off shore because of Obamacare, maybe we should call it "Pre-exiting conditions"?

YOU don't really think the companies will absorb this or are even considering absorbing this do you?  ALL costs are passed onto the consumers.  This will be what is done again.
Title: Re: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: Freeper on December 11, 2012, 01:57:06 PM
It looks like it's assessed on the employer.  From the article;
 It also said it's for 3 years, but you know how that will turn out... :mad:

In the end the employee pays. If your insurance rates go up they can either pass them on to you, or cancel your annual raise. Either way the employee loses.
Title: Re: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: Karin on December 11, 2012, 01:58:46 PM
That means deferred compensation and higher prices.

I would argue it's not "deferred" but "foregone," as in you'll never see it.  The small and medium sized businesses are just getting hammered.  "Raise" is an archaic word.  And insurance premium increases are always shared. 
Title: Re: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: thundley4 on December 11, 2012, 07:50:20 PM
YOU don't really think the companies will absorb this or are even considering absorbing this do you?  ALL costs are passed onto the consumers.  This will be what is done again.

One of the first intelligent things you've posted.  You do know the same applies to higher taxes, don't you?
Title: Re: Obamacare Pre-Existing Condition Fee To Cost Companies $63 Per Person
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 12, 2012, 05:41:57 AM
One of the first intelligent things you've posted.  You do know the same applies to higher taxes, don't you?

NO! He doesn't. His brain stops working after "Sticking it to the man".