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Title: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: dandi on December 06, 2012, 02:03:20 PM
The Hive's War Council meets:

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center rising (947 posts)

If Assad uses Sarin gas, what should the response be??

More intense sanctions, arm the rebels even more, or take Assad out??. If you kill him, then who does it, how is it done??

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021934696

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Cooley Hurd (19,625 posts)
9. I can't see how any nation can stand and watch if he uses chem weapons...

At that point, it would have to be stopped. The Libya solution would be the most practical.

Like Iraq?

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hack89 (17,349 posts)
138. Perhaps we can reclaim some of that moral authority

by stopping a massacre. Or are you saying that America can never be a force for good again?

Like Iraq?

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Lochloosa (7,634 posts)
2. Shock and Awe. I know this will not be popular but so what.

It can't stand. It can't be tolerated. Period.

Target every viable site we know of and take it out.

Like Iraq?

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Lochloosa (7,634 posts)
22. I said it would not be popular, but which can we afford the least?

Money or allowing a nation to use chemical weapons? In my mind there is no choice.

Like Iraq?

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Volaris (1,107 posts)
83. I think your question is valid, but there is a way to split the cost among civilized nations...

TED link on the most effective use of American Military Power in the new century...provided it's structured correctly...

http://www.ted.com/talks/thomas_barnett_draws_a_new_map_for_peace.html

I agree. Light him up.

Like Iraq?

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Arcanetrance (66 posts)
5. Use of chemical weapons on a civilian population can not and should not be tolerated

I think if he goes through with it he needs to be taken dead or alive if alive tried for crimes against humanity and if dead well than oh well one less evil bastard in the world.

Like Iraq?

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bluestate10 (7,192 posts)
49. More than Seal teams will be needed. But I agree that Assad should be taken out and

if he manages to escape, hunted down. No one can be allowed to use chemical weapons against their people and allowed to remain free and/or alive.

Like Iraq?

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Mr.Turnip (606 posts)
7. Im no big fan of intervention but in that case we have to take him out.

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IF there is no action then the Chem weapons convention is meaningless and that could just open the floodgates for more murderous dictators to make similar actions in order to crush their populace.

Like Iraq?

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Ikonoklast (20,139 posts)
10. Massive international military response.

Destroy his ability to use WMD's against anyone, ever again.

Then turn Assad into an ex-alive person, and let the Syrian people have their country back from the criminal family that's been running it like their own personal fiefdom.

Like Iraq?

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Comrade_McKenzie (1,514 posts)
18. Turn Assad into a crater full of bone fragments. nt

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LuvLoogie (107 posts)
23. ...and red mist.

First salvo; half a dozen bunker busters at the palace.


 :killemall:  Wow, the DUmmies sure have become all warlike 'n' shit since The One ascended to the throne.

I have but one other question for them - Where can I send your enlistment papers?
 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: Freeper on December 06, 2012, 02:09:00 PM
Funny how pro war they are all of a sudden. They don't even mind that 0bama is a chicken hawk, he wasn't ever in the military.
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: 67 Rover on December 06, 2012, 02:19:51 PM
Paging Code Pink, paging Code Pink... hello is anybody there???
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 06, 2012, 02:20:35 PM
Begs the question nobody wants to ask, and which nobody wanted to ask about Iraq, either:  Who is responsible for civilian deaths when the rebels choose to hide among (Or even be actively supported by) the civilians - the people who attack them in the civilian sanctuary, or the rebels for hiding among the civilians?  Insurgent warfare is a blood-drenched ugly mess where the actions of both sides get the civilians killed, it is not the cookies and milk delivery system our military leadership portrays to the press, and the press laps up.  Trying to pretend otherwise has certainly spared a lot of Afghan civilian lives at the cost of fostering a resurgent Taliban and a lot of unnecessary American and Coalition KIA.
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: thundley4 on December 06, 2012, 02:50:12 PM
If Obama does anything, it will be after the Sarin gas is used and thousands are dead.  Unless he is willing to act preemptively his actions will be virtually meaningless except as a deterrence to others.  Either way a preemptive strike is the only meaningful action to the people of Syria.
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: USA4ME on December 06, 2012, 02:53:41 PM
Also raises the question, which the primitives will not ask, of where Syria obtained the Sarin gas.  Looks like Saddam Hussein shipped them a gift back in 2002-2003.

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Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: Airwolf on December 06, 2012, 03:00:05 PM
I say they should follow their own advice and STFU over all that war talk. How can it be so evil if Bush did it and now so good for you cowards on the left to want to send troops into harms way?
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: Zeus on December 06, 2012, 03:22:50 PM
I say they should follow their own advice and STFU over all that war talk. How can it be so evil if Bush did it and now so good for you cowards on the left to want to send troops into harms way?

Must be sarindipity.
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: DLR Pyro on December 06, 2012, 03:27:15 PM
I say they should follow their own advice and STFU over all that war talk.
Yeah.  Come on DUmmies.  All we are saying is give peace a chance.    :fuelfire:
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: BlueStateSaint on December 06, 2012, 03:31:14 PM
Must be sarindipity.

 :thatsright: :lmao: :rotf: :rofl: :lmao: :rotf: :rofl:

H5 FTW!
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: JohnnyReb on December 06, 2012, 03:40:25 PM
Wilson, FDR, Truman, JFK, Johnson.....they all added a war to their leg-I-see. Obama got to have a war of his own you know.
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: jukin on December 06, 2012, 03:43:04 PM
Also raises the question, which the primitives will not ask, of where Syria obtained the Sarin gas.  Looks like Saddam Hussein shipped them a gift back in 2002-2003.

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Beat me to that. Also Saddam had used Sarin on his people but was a great person because GWB thought he was a bad one. Leftists are just about 98% useful idiots and do what they are told to by the 2% that are getting wealthy and powerful.  If 0bama came out tomorrow and said that all women must wear a hijab and not to be seen in public without a male family member with them the DUches would find a way to say that it was cool and is the best thing since well...0bama's last idea. Those that refuse to learn from history are doomed to be leftists.
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on December 06, 2012, 04:11:27 PM
Of course all these chest-thumpers have skin in the game and are insisting Sasha and Malia enlist.

Right?
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: Wineslob on December 06, 2012, 04:14:49 PM
I'm sure Uncle Rainbow will give them a stern warning.............................from a beach in Hawaii.
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: Mr Mannn on December 06, 2012, 05:22:58 PM
What if we start a war and we don't find any chemical weapons? Will Obama be frogmarched to the Hague?

Look at the two sides. Muslim Brotherhood fanatical murderers, or dictator murderers. I still haven't decided who to root for.
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: DefiantSix on December 06, 2012, 05:31:58 PM
What if we start a war and we don't find any chemical weapons? Will Obama be frogmarched to the Hague?

Look at the two sides. Muslim Brotherhood fanatical murderers, or dictator murderers. I still haven't decided who to root for.

This is one of those occasions where you put bleachers up on the borders pop up some popcorn, and root for whoever is giving the more entertaining show.

Oh yeah, and I call dibs on the pay per view rights.  :-)
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: Ausonius on December 06, 2012, 05:40:14 PM
Also raises the question, which the primitives will not ask, of where Syria obtained the Sarin gas.  Looks like Saddam Hussein shipped them a gift back in 2002-2003.

Yes, even David Kay, the (skeptical) WMD investigator, admitted that at least some WMD's made it to Syria.  Nothing nuclear, but bad enough.  Georges Sada former #2 commander of the Iraqi Air Force verified the transfer, as did a Syrian journalist named Nizar Nayouf who investigated the transfer.

See:

http://pjmedia.com/blog/satellite-photos-support-testimony-that-iraqi-wmd-went-to-syria/ (http://pjmedia.com/blog/satellite-photos-support-testimony-that-iraqi-wmd-went-to-syria/)

Remember also that Kay said "Iraq was a far more dangerous place" than anyone thought.

Go to the 3 minute section: http://www.c-spanvideo.org/appearance/595988071 (http://www.c-spanvideo.org/appearance/595988071)

Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: Duke Nukum on December 06, 2012, 08:37:29 PM
Wilson, FDR, Truman, JFK, Johnson.....they all added a war to their leg-I-see. Obama got to have a war of his own you know.

Clinton too. Bosnia and Kosovo.
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on December 07, 2012, 10:54:09 AM
This is one of those occasions where you put bleachers up on the borders pop up some popcorn, and root for whoever is giving the more entertaining show.

Oh yeah, and I call dibs on the pay per view rights.  :-)

I am totally down with that.
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: wasp69 on December 07, 2012, 11:46:54 AM
Funny how pro war they are all of a sudden. They don't even mind that 0bama is a chicken hawk, he wasn't ever in the military.

I wonder if Shanequa and Tanqueray (or whatever the Hell obinga and the Wookie named those girls) are going to run down to the nearest recruiter and lead the way?

T'would only be fair....
Title: Re: Chickendoves become chickenhawks with a Democrat President
Post by: I_B_Perky on December 08, 2012, 09:27:03 PM
Hey dummies? It's time to start the draft. Only dems will need to be drafted since ya all are warmongers. Ain't that what ya all said back in during the Bush admin? Yes it was and you know it.

Maybe ya all can go over there to Syria and hold hands and sing Kumbya with the rebels.