I look forward to the Championship game. I firmly believe than ND will win, and I can not stand Notre Dame!
Another thing that speaks volumes. The way they talk ALL.THE.TIME about Manti Te'o. Why? Because ND doesn't normally experience guys on D that good. What is omitted is defensive players of his caliber are ALL OVER the SEC.
No way in hell ND wins. They've had so many close calls it ain't even funny. One close call was to a team Bama dominated. I expect this to be another example of why the SEC is considered the toughest conference in the nation. Think ND would be undefeated playing an SEC schedule? Keep in mind, rankings don't mean anything when it comes to toughness. Kent State is ranked #17. Ole Miss would destroy Kent State. Rankings are a reflection on how well they perform in their schedules. They took strength of schedule out a while back.
Reminds me of the arguments being made against Ohio State the last time they won it all. ND 23 Georgia 14
Reminds me of the arguments being made against Ohio State the last time they won it all. ND 23 Georgia 14
Ohio who? :fuelfire:
I think he's referring to that 0-9 against the SEC in bowls Ohio State.
Correction. They beat Arkansas one year. 1-9. lulz
I'm willing to make a friendly bet. Loser has to go on democraticundergound and talk about how nice it is to hear Jane Fonda discuss politics.
I'm willing to make a friendly bet. Loser has to go on democraticundergound and talk about how nice it is to hear Jane Fonda discuss politics.
Make it sports-related and we're game. I will NEVER lower myself to talk positively about some stupid bitch that trashed the troops in Vietnam when my father served as an 0811 in the United States Marine Corps. I can't believe you'd even bring that shit up.
1981 Sugar Bowl
GA 17
ND 10
That was UGA's last National Championship. We had someone named Hershel Walker playing at the time....
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Edited to change date of Sugar Bowl. It was the 1980 season championship; but the Sugar Bowl was played in 1981....
I know the whole "Gurley + Marshall = Gurschal", or something like that, but Herschel > Gurley + Marshall. Herschel Walker was a freak of nature, which is WELL above exemplary. He'd be a 8 star in a field of 5 stars. This is not to take away from Gurley or Marshall, but Herschel had almost as much as those two combined in his freshman year and #5 all-time rushing yards in college football when he only played 3 years. #1-4 played all 4 years. Without Hershel Walker, there would have never been a 1980 UGA national championship. Same with, as much as it pains me to say this because I was so down on the kid...until I saw him play, Johnny Manziel. No way in hell would A&M be anywhere near where it's at right now without him. Without Gurley and Marshall, Murray still has Tavarres King, Malcolm Mitchell, Marlon Brown, Michael Bennett, Ken Malcome, etc. Hershel was pretty much Daddy Dooley's main workhorse. That's pretty much how Heisman candidates are chosen. Can a team make it without this one player. Manziel? No. Hershel? No. Gurley + Marshall? Yes. Manti Te'o? Yes. Cam Newton? Well, you see the results of that. So does Gene the Chin. ...from the unemployment line.
I agree with you on all points. I remember when Hershel got drafted. I was only 10 and didn't really understand how the draft worked. I was PISSED when he went to Dallas....I hated the Cowboys (still do). I think his story is a good one, too. He has written an autobiography which details his struggles with personality disorder. He was very open as to how it ruined his marriage and how it impacted him on the field. It's called Breaking Free: My Life with Dissociative Identity Disorder. Here's a link to its Amazon page.
http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Free-Dissociative-Identity-Disorder/dp/B002RAR432
I agree with you on all points. I remember when Hershel got drafted. I was only 10 and didn't really understand how the draft worked. I was PISSED when he went to Dallas....I hated the Cowboys (still do). I think his story is a good one, too. He has written an autobiography which details his struggles with personality disorder. He was very open as to how it ruined his marriage and how it impacted him on the field. It's called Breaking Free: My Life with Dissociative Identity Disorder. Here's a link to its Amazon page.
http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Free-Dissociative-Identity-Disorder/dp/B002RAR432
There's also an 30 for 30 ESPN special on him. Great story. It showed a man who built himself up to be a great. Contrast that with someone with God-given talent like Mississippi's own Marcus Dupree, and you'll come away thinking Marcus was a lazy f'er.
Do you mean Marcus Dupree?
I'm willing to make a friendly bet. Loser has to go on democraticundergound and talk about how nice it is to hear Jane Fonda discuss politics.
Some of you are too nice when it comes to these things. For me, there's a handful of schools that if they win the national championship in any sport, I just write off that year as being one where it wasn't really worth playing if that was the final result. ND is one of those teams.
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Well, you won't have to worry if "the SEC is the best conference in the world". Surely the best conference representative should be able to beat a non-conference team.
How about $50 provided it is AL vs ND. The loser donates the money to this web site. We can make it less or more; make it lite on yourself.
I'll do the same bet with Georgia. Georgia has more NFL-caliber players on its team right now than Bama. They just have an extremely conservative coach. He needs to stop being a *****. Grantham was a good choice. God knows, Willie Martinez sucked. Mike Bobo isn't too much better, but he has gotten better, if that means anything.
Pull all you want, but you'll see another Alabama National Champions banner in Tuscaloosa in the not distant future.
How about $50 provided it is AL vs ND. The loser donates the money to this web site. We can make it less or more; make it lite on yourself.
I'll take that bet for $50. I predict Notre Dame will win the National Championship this year.
Considering 'Bama is currently a 10 point favorite, hope you have your money ready.
No SEC team has been beaten by another conference in the BCS championship game.
No SEC team has been beaten by another conference in the BCS championship game.
No SEC team has been beaten by another conference in the BCS championship game.
No SEC team has been beaten by another conference in the BCS championship game.
No SEC team has been beaten by another conference in the BCS championship game.
No SEC team has been beaten by another conference in the BCS championship game.
Perfect, Notre Dame is not in a conference :)
Let me re-word that for you:
No SEC team has ever lost to a non-SEC team in the BCS Championship game. In fact, no other conference has ever had both teams in the BCS Championship game.
I'll take that bet for $50. I predict Notre Dame will win the National Championship this year.
You are on. Loser donates 50 bucks to CC.
It's embarrassing that ND and Alabama were on the same
field
You are on. Loser donates 50 bucks to CC.
Perfect. Anyone else going to officially take on the bet?
This should be a reminder that teams that do not play stiff competition have no business playing for the National Championship.
Time to eat my crow...awesome game by Bama. I need to find out how to donate the $50 as promised...anyone know the process?
I'll take that bet for $50. I predict Notre Dame will win the National Championship this year.
Considering that Bama just beat THE DOUBLE DIGIT SPREAD by DOUBLE DIGITS, I stand by my statement that Notre Dame is the MOST overrated college football team of 2012.
No, I give that designation to USC. Preseason #1 to a 7-7 season, unranked, and loss to 6-7 Georgia Tech in the "I Give A Shit Bowl."
No, I give that designation to USC. Preseason #1 to a 7-7 season, unranked, and loss to 6-7 Georgia Tech in the "I Give A Shit Bowl."
Yep. GT had to basically beg just to get into a bowl with a losing record.
Well, congratulations to Alabama.
Bear Bryant, the best coach in the history of college football, lives.
By the way, apparently Alabama now joins Nebraska as the only two teams that won three national championships in four years.
This year and last years game is why they need a playoff system in college, so shit teams like ND, LSU, and Ohio would never make it to the big game.
This year and last years game is why they need a playoff system in college, so shit teams like ND, LSU, and Ohio would never make it to the big game.
Who is your shit team. Betcha if they are in the SEC, LSU has beaten them.
You want a 4 team playoff system. When your team does not make it will you be crying for a 8 or 16 team playoff system?????????
what are you talking about? LSU beat Alabama in the regular season.They would have easily beaten Stanford in a semifinal to get to the championship
Maybe, maybe not... There have been several wildcard teams that won the Superbowl.
what are you talking about? LSU beat Alabama in the regular season.They would have easily beaten Stanford in a semifinal to get to the championship
College football is not the NFL, the saying is any given Sunday and not any given Saturday for a reason.
College football is not the NFL, the saying is any given Sunday and not any given Saturday for a reason.
What do you mean? College is much more volatile than the pros.
What reason might that be? That makes no sense. It is any given Saturday... Texas A&M proved that.
The 32nd team in the NFL can beat the 1st team in the NFL in any given game, the 123rd (or whatever we are up to now) could never even be competitive with the #1 team in college football.
Well you are being a little far fetched. I don't think me or anyone else in the whole world thinks that. But the number 10 or 5 team in the NCAA can. Did not A&M prove that?
And maybe we need to look at why that is, how come they can in basketball but not football? Maybe this would change with a play off system? Look at the NCAA basketball playoffs... Small schools such as Memphis go all the way.
The 32nd team in the NFL can beat the 1st team in the NFL in any given game, the 123rd (or whatever we are up to now) could never even be competitive with the #1 team in college football.
The #5 team with the Heisman winner beat the #1 team thats not exactly a huge upset.
Yet an unranked, DIV II team can come into a major DIV I team's stadium and hand them their ass on national television
No, but the week 11 #15 with 2 losses (both to SEC teams) beating the undefeated #1 (king of the SEC) team at home was a big upset.
Actually there will be a 4 team playoff system beginning in 2014. I think it needs to be more myself and has nothing to do with my shit SEC team, which is shit at the moment. They wouldn't have made in a 48 team play off system.
I asked you a question. Who is your shit team??? LSU has won 2 National Championships in the last 10 years. So, you are the one that is full of shit.
What the **** is your problem? My shit team is UT and is irrelevant to an anything in this ****ing thread. So how am I full of shit?
I was responding to your post about LSU being a shit team. Don't get your bowels in an uproar; your head is liable to explode. BTW, the UT does not come close to the won lost record that LSU has posted in the last 10 years. That is a fact shithead.
I never said LSU was a shit team... not sure where you got that. Although Clemson would and could argue that point.
Wrong.....On page 4 second post from the bottom, you did.
LSU needs to revamp its offensive coordinators. One has Parkinson disease and the other is just not worth a shit. Coach Miles is a good coach; his loyalty might be admiral but they need to go.
With 2 min. in the game LSU has the ball with 2nd down and 2 yards to go, they pass it twice. That is the dumbest calls I have seen cause Clemson had no time outs and running the ball twice would have eaten up 1.5 min off the clock. A first down would have ensured victory. LSU has the talent to beat any team but their offense sucks due to bad offense coaches.
App St was ranked #1 in Div 2, those teams are pretty good they are about as good as the #25 Div 1 team and it took a game winning field goal block to win.
So sometimes the #10 team has a chance against the #1 team (like an A&M team that was young and played top SEC competition) and sometimes there was never a shot for them to win (like ND who played pushovers all year)
I would say it was only a big upset because A&M had never played at that level before
if next year a 2 loss A&M plays an undefeated SEC team you are going to expect it to be close arent you?
Maybe so, I would tend to agree and say also that there were many factors that made it an upset (freshman QB, first year in the conference, already lost two conference games, playing Alabama in Tuscaloosa, etc).
What I have learned watching the SEC over the years is that it takes an SEC team to really beat an SEC team; again, college can be volatile. What I expect next year is for A and M to give Alabama a serious run in the SEC West if not possibly winning the SEC outright.
All I know is I had a footballgasm watching it happen, A&M beat AL that is. I think a few SEC teams new and old to shine next year. A&M and Vandy to name a few. Probably like you said A&M has the best shot at giving AL a run for its money.
All I know is I had a footballgasm watching it happen, A&M beat AL that is. I think a few SEC teams new and old to shine next year. A&M and Vandy to name a few. Probably like you said A&M has the best shot at giving AL a run for its money.
I agree with those saying TAMU will be Bama's toughest team to beat in the years to come. They're the only Texas team in the SEC, and many Texas players want to play for a Texas team if they can help it. That makes TAMU the premier team in Texas to play for if you want to play against the best.
The only other team in the SEC that enjoys that is Florida. If a Florida player wants to play for a Florida team in the best league, then UF is it. Georgia is almost in the same boat, but they just don't have the large pool of players in-state that Texas and Florida do. I think it's a big advantage for any team who can say "You're from (State), then here's the team to be on if you want to join hands with other players and prove that players from (State) are the best!"
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I think this is why teams like Ole Miss and MS State will never be contenders. My experience living and growing up in MS then moving to TN really opened my eyes to the difference just these two states take football.