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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Freeper on November 26, 2012, 09:42:29 AM
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salinen (7,135 posts)
The Military ruined this country
Last edited Mon Nov 26, 2012, 09:42 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
The American economy is significantly based in the production of war machinery. War machinery has almost no value outside of wartime. Another resource subtracted from the system are young people, who, would otherwise be working at the factory producing washing machines or table saws or clothing if they weren't in Germany providing security over any resurgence in Nazism.
America followed the war weapons industry the way China followed the make everything else industry. Look who won. We are now arguing over whether class sizes should be increased, social security should be decreased, and all because America decided that making tanks and warships and jets were the answer to everything.
At the best engineering schools, military recruiters are snatching up the best and brightest to go design another weapon or drone. These same minds are sequestered and will not improve the competitiveness of America globally or even domestically because what they're producing is worthless.
So let's not pretend that the fiscal cliff has nothing to do with the stolen resources that make up the American Military Industrial Complex. All other theft is minor by comparison. The Military also has the status of being it's own country. It has it's own land, court system, and even hospitals and shopping centers.
In order to coddle the citizens into accepting this type of system that jeopardizes their lives, is through propaganda. Americans have been convinced that without this expansive military, we are doomed to be attacked by our enemies. So, we again can thank the military for creating a populace of paranoid freaks.
So let's continue the arguments over social security, medicare, infrastructure, food stamps, et al. The 800 pounder will continue to be the 800 pounder.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021883730
Yet it is that military that you despise so much that has given you the life style that you take for granted. It is the same military that went over seas and found Bin Laden so your preezy could take the credit for being such a warrior. It is that military that the national guard is part of that shows up after a disaster to bail your sorry asses out. You people are despicable. You would gut the one institution full of people who will give their lives for you all so you can get more freebies for yourself.
Generic Other (19,863 posts)
1. You are 100% correct
It's sad. And there seems nothing we can do to change this fact. Men without balls quivering in fear. Mostly old men who didn't get their chance on the battlefield.
Recognizing and protecting against danger is not quivering in fear. You idiots would never grab a rifle and defend this country even if they allowed you to unionize and paid you a CEO's salary.
Romulox (21,901 posts)
5. All of a piece. Detroit was sacrificed to the East, for example, for military basing rights...
It's all part of the same plan.
Yeah it isn't the democrats who have run that city for years and the greedy unions that destroyed Detroit, it is the military. :whatever:
earthside (4,250 posts)
7. "Thank you for your service."
We hear it constantly ... if you don't think this is part of the military-industrial-lobbyist propaganda effort, then you are sadly mistaken. All part of instilling the notion that to oppose military spending and general submission to the military is tantamount to ingratitude to all those who 'served' ... no matter what they did (eg. the huge military paper-pushing bureaucracy), or who they killed or maimed (eg. nerds in control rooms in Nevada dropping drone bombs on 'collateral damage' half a world away).
Special programs to find jobs for 'veterans' while those with no military 'service' are not accorded the same level of concern. Then there are career military retirees who draw a pension at 55 years old, then go to work for a 'defense' contractor and make thousands and thousands of dollars more each month courtesy of the gullible 'patriotic' middle class taxpayer.
We have created a special class of citizen in this country -- the military participant, who is praised and lauded for their personal choice, is/was paid by the rest of the taxpayers and who, if some are to be heeded, ought to be given more credence and deference on all issues (especially by the Repuglicans and veterans organizations who, I think if they could get their way, would give military personnel two votes each at election time).
It is the simple truth that we spend a trillion dollars a year on the military and military related agencies ... more if you start adding in spending for 'homeland' security. And it is also true that we could very adequately defend the United States, that is the fifty states, for less than half of what we are presently spending on what is in effect our imperial military.
I'm all for going over the 'fiscal cliff' if for the first time it actually means real cuts in the bloated military spending we have witnessed especially since 2001. There is plenty of money for all the needs of genuinely needy veterans of Bush's and Obama's stupid wars in Afghanistan and Iraq if we would just close about half of the imperial outposts (bases) that the country operates overseas -- it is just a matter of priorities (one reason why I do not give anything to 'charitable' veterans organizations).
The OP is more correct than they know, in my opinion -- the military has ruined this country and it will wreck this country once and for all if it isn't reined-in and we get to a much more reasonable and critical attitude towards the military and those who chose to join it.
The veterans earn whatever they get, meanwhile the 0bamaphone people have done nothing and will do nothing to earn their keep and you make them into heroes and then have the nerve to call those who made sacrifices the bad guys. :banghead:
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Damn. I can't believe the way they are talking about our military.
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Damn. I can't believe the way they are talking about our military.
I do. I want to beat the shit out of every last one of these assholes.
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Yep....all those billions spent and they ain't kilt the first damn DUmmie.
I'm joking of course.
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Damn. I can't believe the way they are talking about our military.
They're simply giving voice to what certain politicians and one certain CINC believes.
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DUmmies allow me to remind you that the total budget spent on the military is curently 4.7% of the GDP.
Welfare and everything it emcompasses is 15-16% and growing.
It's not spending on beans and bullets that's driven us towards a fiscal cliff...it's Section VIII housing food stamps and free cellphones that's doing it.
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Uh, asshats - the military is reponsible for those satellite systems, GPS, velcro, microwaves, cordless tools, water filtration, canned food preserve systems, the freakin internet and all sorts of stuff that you misfits use everyday.
The one thing the military is directly responsible for that you could not live without:
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2011/07/09/imagesqtbnand9gcsevhhcdnbehmbywfjxkv1sah2s7bgpjbwbsddg4dbwixv5wdxfzq_1.)
Major roads/highways were built for military convoys.
Morons.
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I want this thread to be seen, so I set it as a sticky.
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Uh, asshats - the military is reponsible for those satellite systems, GPS, velcro, microwaves, cordless tools, water filtration, canned food preserve systems, the freakin internet and all sorts of stuff that you misfits use everyday.
The one thing the military is directly responsible for that you could not live without:
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/readers/2011/07/09/imagesqtbnand9gcsevhhcdnbehmbywfjxkv1sah2s7bgpjbwbsddg4dbwixv5wdxfzq_1.)
Major roads/highways were built for military convoys.
Morons.
I believe I'm right on this....when the interstate highway system was built, it was required that ever so often along the highway that there was to be a stretch of it(one mile or more?) straight and level enough to make it suitable for the military to use it as an airfield.
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It's so heart-warming to see the members of the Democratic Party who post at DU show their affection for our military. :whatever:
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I believe I'm right on this....when the interstate highway system was built, it was required that ever so often along the highway that there was to be a stretch of it(one mile or more?) straight and level enough to make it suitable for the military to use it as an airfield.
I'd heard the same thing. According to snopes, it's not true.
http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/airstrip.asp
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Guess what idiots...you know who loves our military more then anyone?
It is your fantasy dreamland socialist Euroidiots that have survived under our umbrella for almost 70 years now.
They curse us but depend on us to keep their failing ****ing experiment alive. :mad:
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I believe I'm right on this....when the interstate highway system was built, it was required that ever so often along the highway that there was to be a stretch of it(one mile or more?) straight and level enough to make it suitable for the military to use it as an airfield.
Nope--urban legend, but a nice thought. Trying doing that with I-70 between Glenwood Springs and Denver and you'll know what I mean.
But the point remains; some of the things developed by DARPA, et al, have found their way into civilian applications and provided untold benefit to our quality of life in virtually every way imaginable.
Think about trauma centers, etc., and how much they've advanced in the last 50 years. The Internet. Communications. Vehicle durability. Nuclear power. The list goes on...
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"Stolen resources"?
How many bleeding civilians go untreated for every bandage in my aid bag?
How about when Clinton had the military running around playing international Meals-on-Wheels?
BTW -- you ****ing chest-thumping hypocrites sure loved the military enough when Obama was still campaigning and needed his Bin Laden merit badge for the cameras.
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Isn't the US military the first responders to natural disasters all over the world?
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But they respect and care for our veterans! It must be true because I've read it there many times.
This is just more childish envy on their part, that the people who sacrifice the most on behalf of this country might enjoy more benefits than they do.
**** you sideways, DUmbasses.
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Nope--urban legend, but a nice thought. Trying doing that with I-70 between Glenwood Springs and Denver and you'll know what I mean.
But the point remains; some of the things developed by DARPA, et al, have found their way into civilian applications and provided untold benefit to our quality of life in virtually every way imaginable.
Think about trauma centers, etc., and how much they've advanced in the last 50 years. The Internet. Communications. Vehicle durability. Nuclear power. The list goes on...
I have lost count of medical advances made by the military. The plastic surgery that the uberlib Hollywood types love came from the military.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021883730
Yet it is that military that you despise so much that has given you the life style that you take for granted. It is the same military that went over seas and found Bin Laden so your preezy could take the credit for being such a warrior. It is that military that the national guard is part of that shows up after a disaster to bail your sorry asses out. You people are despicable. You would gut the one institution full of people who will give their lives for you all so you can get more freebies for yourself.
Recognizing and protecting against danger is not quivering in fear. You idiots would never grab a rifle and defend this country even if they allowed you to unionize and paid you a CEO's salary.
Yeah it isn't the democrats who have run that city for years and the greedy unions that destroyed Detroit, it is the military. :whatever:
The veterans earn whatever they get, meanwhile the 0bamaphone people have done nothing and will do nothing to earn their keep and you make them into heroes and then have the nerve to call those who made sacrifices the bad guys. :banghead:
IT IS THE SOLDIER
It is the Soldier, not the minister
Who has given us freedom of religion.
It is the Soldier, not the reporter
Who has given us freedom of the press.
It is the Soldier, not the poet
Who has given us freedom of speech.
It is the Soldier, not the campus organizer
Who has given us freedom to protest.
It is the Soldier, not the lawyer
Who has given us the right to a fair trial.
It is the Soldier, not the politician
Who has given us the right to vote.
It is the Soldier who salutes the flag,
Who serves beneath the flag,
And whose coffin is draped by the flag,
Who allows the protester to burn the flag.
©Copyright 1970, 2005 by Charles M. Province
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Isn't the idea that the American economy is based on war and war machinery one of those things only believed by naive and brainwashed high school seniors up to college juniors?
When Clinton was destroying the US Military American innovation caused the economy to boom.
Anyway, I never looked into it. I used to believe it when I was uninformed and stupid but now it seems impossible for the "military=American economy" to be the least bit true. If anything it is the other way around. That the American military depends on the innovation and intelligence of the American people that they protect.
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Wow. These clowns are truly ignorant. Have they not heard of Spinoff technology? :mental:
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earthside (4,250 posts)
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Special programs to find jobs for 'veterans' while those with no military 'service' are not accorded the same level of concern. Then there are career military retirees who draw a pension at 55 years old, then go to work for a 'defense' contractor and make thousands and thousands of dollars more each month courtesy of the gullible 'patriotic' middle class taxpayer.
We have created a special class of citizen in this country -- the military participant, who is praised and lauded for their personal choice, is/was paid by the rest of the taxpayers and who, if some are to be heeded, ought to be given more credence and deference on all issues (especially by the Repuglicans and veterans organizations who, I think if they could get their way, would give military personnel two votes each at election time).
All of the whining and crying done by these worthless cretins is boiled down to the above quoted. To distill it down even further: "What about meeeeeeee?!? It's not fair!!!"
There is not enough that can be given to those who volunteer to be bullet/shrapnel sponges, to those who sacrifice their youth willingly. **** you, participation trophy cretins.
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I have lost count of medical advances made by the military. The plastic surgery that the uberlib Hollywood types love came from the military.
Not to mention burn treatment, prosthetics, rehabilitation procedures, etc...
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No, the military does not ruin America. It helps and defends America. What a moron! :mental: :bird:
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All of the whining and crying done by these worthless cretins is boiled down to the above quoted. To distill it down even further: "What about meeeeeeee?!? It's not fair!!!"
There is not enough that can be given to those who volunteer to be bullet/shrapnel sponges, to those who sacrifice their youth willingly. **** you, participation trophy cretins.
Yep it all boils down to jealousy. They can't stand that some folks did something with their lives and will prosper because of it. They are owed the same thing just because their mommy didn't have them aborted in the womb. :mental:
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Yep it all boils down to jealousy. They can't stand that some folks did something with their lives and will prosper because of it. They are owed the same thing just because their mommy didn't have them aborted in the womb. :mental:
The whole "deserve a better quality of life" meme in the flesh, as it were.
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But the point remains; some of the things developed by DARPA, et al, have found their way into civilian applications and provided untold benefit to our quality of life in virtually every way imaginable.
without DARPA the DUmmies wouldn't have the internet and without the internet there would be no DU so suck on that DUmmies.
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Well lookie here, the biggest idiot at the DUmp joined in,
BanTheGOP (930 posts)
28. I agree. It's time to disband the US Military
We should disband all foreign US Military operations and, instead, cede our control of the military to the United Nations, along with providing them the patents dedicated strictly to the development of women and children killing machines. This will show other nations of the world that we DO mean business in not showing our bullying side, and allow them to stand down their own weapons so we all live in in harmony.
This worked for Europe, so what's good for the goose is good for Ed Flanders too.
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That thread is so ate up it's like it tied raw liver to itself and went swimming in a piranha-infested jungle river.
:argh:
For starters, DUmbshits, you could thank the military that you don't have to spell "Honor" with a "U" in it, of course there isn't any foreseeable reason you'd be using that word...
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BanTheGOP (930 posts)
28. I agree. It's time to disband the US Military
We should disband all foreign US Military operations and, instead, cede our control of the military to the United Nations, along with providing them the patents dedicated strictly to the development of women and children killing machines. This will show other nations of the world that we DO mean business in not showing our bullying side, and allow them to stand down their own weapons so we all live in in harmony.
This worked for Europe, so what's good for the goose is good for Ed Flanders too.
I knew that BTG was is an idiot but I guess I didn't understand how far down the rabbit hole he has gone. I got banzored form the island once arguing this same point.
Lets put a liberal democracy on the map and lets have it share a border with a dictatorship right.
Now lets imagine that the liberal democracy dissolves its military in order to foster peace, does one think that the dictatorship does the same?
That's not the human nature works, the grass is always greener on the other side. That has been the nature of war since our ancestors developed thumbs.
The most important idea to maintaining sovereignty is if you desire peace then prepare for war.
And as far as ceding our defense to the U.N.!! That is like handing the knife to jack the ripper.
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I find it ironic that the only part of the federal government that the DUmmies hate is the one part that actually works.
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GOD, I want to strangle these ass hats! Can there actually be people this stupid?
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Is there any group of people liberals don't hate?
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This really chaps my ass. My family and ancestors have saved more lives like the DU morons than they have managed to abort. I simply could not get through the thread, so please, please tell me that even at the risk of being banned, some former military member told them to eat a bowl of dicks.
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This is so offensive. Last week during the basketball game at the high school where my son coaches and teaches, they honored one of my son's friends from high school. He was killed in Afghanistan last November. I had the pleasure of sitting with his mother and brother during the game. He was part of the basketball program and was one of the nicest young men you could ever meet.
He was there fighting so the DUmmies could continue to spew their nonsense on the DUmp. That whole free speech thing is so confusing to them.
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Couple nice pie charts even DUmmies should be able to understand. Eh, maybe not. I've corrected their work. Pravda had it right.
Free Pie Mash Here (http://www.concordcoalition.org/learn/budget/federal-budget-pie-charts)
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Is there any group of people liberals don't hate?
They don't hate the Islamic terrorist that want to kill them. You know, the ones that the military protects them from.
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If that is what they want to believe, than fine, they are entitled to their opinion. Just as I am entitled to the opinion that their castration of the one thing keeping them safe will bite them in the ass. Unfortunately, it will take ground combat in CONUS to show them the error of their ways...
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BanTheGOP (930 posts)
28. I agree. It's time to disband the US Military
We should disband all foreign US Military operations and, instead, cede our control of the military to the United Nations, along with providing them the patents dedicated strictly to the development of women and children killing machines. This will show other nations of the world that we DO mean business in not showing our bullying side, and allow them to stand down their own weapons so we all live in in harmony.
This worked for Europe, so what's good for the goose is good for Ed Flanders too.
DOTY 2012...there it is...just give him the award.
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Is there any group of people liberals don't hate?
The ones that hate America.
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Yeah, Ban is making a hard run at the title.
And the fact that he's still an active member here but doesn't have the balls to come here and try to defend his position tells me all I really need to know about him as a man.
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That last word just begs for airquotes, Sparky.
:cheersmate:
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That last word just begs for airquotes, Sparky.
:cheersmate:
Well, physically speaking he might have the plumbing, but psychologically he just ain't got the makeup for it.
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Look, you ignorant ****s...honestly I hope you all die choking to death on your own hate and bile and sooner rather than later and BTG, come over here and spew your bullshit and try to defend it, bet you won't, bet you don't have the balls. Personally, I'd like to cut them off with a dull, rusty straight edge razor...slowly, one little piece at a time, then your wanker and then grab myself a bag of popcorn and a Long Island Ice Tea and watch you bleed to death.
In the mean time, here's one of those handy government pie charts. If you add up all the pretty little numbers (math is hard, I know since in your pea brains 1+1=gimmee) you can see that entitlements make up over 60% while the military gets about 24%. Next time there's a disaster in your area I hope someone puts a sign in your yard that says "Hey National Guard, no thanks, I'm waiting for the UN!" How about those worthless ****s in congress. You okay with them earning over $200,000 a year and getting a lifetime pension regardless how short a time they serve? Now THAT'S an entitlement. Next time you want to spew your vile crap, you might think about thanking a vet...many countries, some of them your "pet" countries...you could be killed for saying those kinds of things.
(http://www.caseyresearch.com/images/USGovernment2010Outlays.png)
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If Social Security pays for itself*, why does it cost so much?
*This is the current argument from the left. They claim that SSDI is not currently running a deficit, therefore there's no incentive to fix the system.
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Personally, I'd like to cut them off with a dull, rusty straight edge razor...slowly, one little piece at a time, then your wanker and then grab myself a bag of popcorn and a Long Island Ice Tea and watch you bleed to death.
And every man on here says a collective "ouch". :-)
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earthside (4,250 posts)
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Special programs to find jobs for 'veterans' while those with no military 'service' are not accorded the same level of concern. Then there are career military retirees who draw a pension at 55 years old, then go to work for a 'defense' contractor and make thousands and thousands of dollars more each month courtesy of the gullible 'patriotic' middle class taxpayer.
We have created a special class of citizen in this country -- the military participant, who is praised and lauded for their personal choice, is/was paid by the rest of the taxpayers and who, if some are to be heeded, ought to be given more credence and deference on all issues (especially by the Repuglicans and veterans organizations who, I think if they could get their way, would give military personnel two votes each at election time).
You know I started a rant, and realized when I was done that it wouldn't make a difference. The Dummies and their kind will never understand, duty, sacrifice, and commitment. All they can see is that they aren't the ones "getting stuff" and like an adolescent child that is prevented from having something only for adults, are having a temper tantrum. All their verbal diarrhea doesn't amount to jack squat.
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The thread is still on page one at DUmmyland. Lots of sick bastards agree with the op.
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earthside (4,250 posts)
7.
Special programs to find jobs for 'veterans' while those with no military 'service' are not accorded the same level of concern. Then there are career military retirees who draw a pension at 55 years old, then go to work for a 'defense' contractor and make thousands and thousands of dollars more each month courtesy of the gullible 'patriotic' middle class taxpayer.
We have created a special class of citizen in this country -- the military participant, who is praised and lauded for their personal choice, is/was paid by the rest of the taxpayers and who, if some are to be heeded, ought to be given more credence and deference on all issues (especially by the Repuglicans and veterans organizations who, I think if they could get their way, would give military personnel two votes each at election time).
Guess what DUmmy, I do feel that I am better than you. I paid my dues to live in a free society, and that society is rewarding me for that service. You probably never had to do a hard days work in your life. You get to sleep in your bed every night and get to see your family every day. You will never know hardship. You will never know what it is like to watch your child take his first steps via a DVD your spouse sent you while you were deployed. Yes you got to see it for the first time 3 months after the fact. Seeing your spouse and kids probably never involved getting on a flights. You get to enjoy all your constitutional rights while I do not. But I have the responsibility of defending your rights.
Thanks to my service I have seen the world outside out borders. For all my travels and everything I enjoyed abroad the most valuable thing I got was the fact that there is no place in the world like the United States.
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Special programs to find jobs for 'veterans' while those with no military 'service' are not accorded the same level of concern. Then there are career military retirees who draw a pension at 55 years old, then go to work for a 'defense' contractor and make thousands and thousands of dollars more each month courtesy of the gullible 'patriotic' middle class taxpayer.
Dear DUmmies,
**** you. If DU had a the equivalent of a dickpunch button I'd use it on all of you worthless ****ers.
I am a veteran. I have never used any of those "preferences" of which you speak. I spent over a decade on AD, and left because the pay and benefits I was getting for the hours I put in and sacrifices I made was a pittance compared to the opportunities which awaited me back in the civilian world. I do not draw a pension, nor will I ever do so. Even those who have spent 20-plus years on AD, assuming they make E-7/8 or O-5 if they're lucky get just about enough to make the house payment after taxes, meaning they still have to work until 65 just like the rest of us.
I've also been fortunate enough to demonstrate a skill set which is highly in demand. Sorry for you poor dumb bastards who think incurring $100K in student loans getting a degree in Comparative Navel Gazing and thinking you're entitled to a corner office and company car so you can surf pron and eat Cheetos on someone else's dime is actually a realistic goal.
Comparatively few of us go to work for defense contractors. OTOH, most of us work in the private sector. I know people who work in utilities (like me), or in factories, engineering firms, or go to school to finish their degrees (which I paid for out-of-pocket, BTW.) Notice that word though--WORK. Busting our asses. STILL. I was a lazy bastard before I joined. I thought I could do like I did up to that point in my life; just screw around, drift, get by, and nobody'd be the wiser. No, DUmmies, I learned how to WORK. Not just actual effort, but time managment, prioritizing, being able to LEAD. Knowing that no matter how much I wanted something to happen, shit in one hand, wish in the other, see which one fills up faster.
All of these things and more I learned during my time in. Honor, courage, commitment--they translate into my everyday life nearly 15 years since I left the service. They are as much a part of me as any physical attributes. You? You sit on your ass with your hands out and bitch about someone who actually EXERTED EFFORT to accomplish something in life, and then wonder why people like me hold you in such scorn.
Well, the collapse is coming, sooner rather than later now that you ****sticks gave Dear Reader another four years to produce Skittle-shitting unicorns that you should have know damned well weren't coming, and will never come. Guess you'll learn the lessons I learned, or perish. Personally, I really don't give a shit which you do.
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Dear DUmmies,
**** you. If DU had a the equivalent of a dickpunch button I'd use it on all of you worthless ****ers.
I am a veteran. I have never used any of those "preferences" of which you speak. I spent over a decade on AD, and left because the pay and benefits I was getting for the hours I put in and sacrifices I made was a pittance compared to the opportunities which awaited me back in the civilian world. I do not draw a pension, nor will I ever do so. Even those who have spent 20-plus years on AD, assuming they make E-7/8 or O-5 if they're lucky get just about enough to make the house payment after taxes, meaning they still have to work until 65 just like the rest of us.
I've also been fortunate enough to demonstrate a skill set which is highly in demand. Sorry for you poor dumb bastards who think incurring $100K in student loans getting a degree in Comparative Navel Gazing and thinking you're entitled to a corner office and company car so you can surf pron and eat Cheetos on someone else's dime is actually a realistic goal.
Comparatively few of us go to work for defense contractors. OTOH, most of us work in the private sector. I know people who work in utilities (like me), or in factories, engineering firms, or go to school to finish their degrees (which I paid for out-of-pocket, BTW.) Notice that word though--WORK. Busting our asses. STILL. I was a lazy bastard before I joined. I thought I could do like I did up to that point in my life; just screw around, drift, get by, and nobody'd be the wiser. No, DUmmies, I learned how to WORK. Not just actual effort, but time managment, prioritizing, being able to LEAD. Knowing that no matter how much I wanted something to happen, shit in one hand, wish in the other, see which one fills up faster.
All of these things and more I learned during my time in. Honor, courage, commitment--they translate into my everyday life nearly 15 years since I left the service. They are as much a part of me as any physical attributes. You? You sit on your ass with your hands out and bitch about someone who actually EXERTED EFFORT to accomplish something in life, and then wonder why people like me hold you in such scorn.
Well, the collapse is coming, sooner rather than later now that you ****sticks gave Dear Reader another four years to produce Skittle-shitting unicorns that you should have know damned well weren't coming, and will never come. Guess you'll learn the lessons I learned, or perish. Personally, I really don't give a shit which you do.
:clap: Well said!
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Sparky, I couldn't have said it better
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earthside (4,250 posts)
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Special programs to find jobs for 'veterans' while those with no military 'service' are not accorded the same level of concern. Then there are career military retirees who draw a pension at 55 years old, then go to work for a 'defense' contractor and make thousands and thousands of dollars more each month courtesy of the gullible 'patriotic' middle class taxpayer....
Ah, I think I begin to see why this is such a conceptual problem for you, DUmmie....