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Title: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 18, 2012, 05:23:25 AM
This week, November 18-24, isn't really the end of the season, because there's Army-Navy wrapping it all up on December 8, but usually, generally the week of Thanksgiving is, for all practical purposes, the end of the season.

There's a few between November 25-December 1, but they don't seem to count for much.

The upcoming big games this week:

Texas Christian-Texas; Texas is probably favored, but as one has no fondness for Texas, one hopes Texas Christian wins.

Nebraska-Iowa; bah humbug, what a lame end of the season opponent for Nebraska.

Louisiana State-Arkansas; I dunno if that's a rivalry or not, but probably Louisiana State'll win.

Utah-Colorado; this should evolve into a rivalry; Colorado's never going to be good enough to play with the traditional class teams.

West Virginia-Iowa State; how poor West Virginia got saddled with Iowa State, I dunno.

Washington-Washington State; an ancient first-class rivalry; probably Washington.

Arizona State-Arizona; who cares, they're from parvenu Arizona, with no history or tradition.

Stanford-UCLA; I dunno if this is a classic rivalry or not, but I bet Stanford upsets.

Oregon-Oregon State; see comment about Arizona State-Arizona, above, same thing.  Ho-hum.

Virginia-Virginia Tech; given my favoritism for teams whose last name is "Tech," I hope the home team wins.

Georgia Tech-Georgia; another "Tech," and so I hope they pull an upset.

Illinois-Northwestern; Northwestern'll probably run away with this one.

Michigan-Ohio State; it has to be Ohio State, much greater than Michigan, past, present, and future.

Indiana-Purdue; probably Purdue.

Kentucky-Tennessee; Tennessee lost to Vanderbilt, so probably no matter how bad Kentucky is, as Kentucky usually is, Kentucky wins.

Florida-Florida State; Florida has history, Florida State not, so one hopes for Florida.

Michigan State-Minnesota; oddly, probably Minnesota's going to win this one.

Oklahoma State-Oklahoma; Oklahoma, of course.  It goes without saying.

Wisconsin-Penn State; alas, poor Wisconsin, which like Nebraska deserves a first-class, top-notch end-of-season game, and this isn't it.  Perhaps Iowa and Penn State should play as their season-enders, and Nebraska and Wisconsin as theirs.

Auburn-Alabama; Bear Bryant was the best coach in the history of college football; Go, Alabama!

Mississippi State-Mississippi; I'm not going to touch this one with a ten-foot primitive.

South Carolina-Clemson; a hard one to pick, but one hopes South Carolina.

Missouri-Texas A&M; this could become the major rivalry of both teams, given that Missouri no longer plays Kansas, and Texas A&M Texas, and given that they're both considered undesirables by the snobs of the Southeastern Conference, the "leftovers."  One hopes Missouri wins, but expects Texas A&M to.

Notre Dame-Southern California; nobody, but nobody, could ever cheer for Notre Dame other than their alumni.

Yale 24, Harvard 34, yesterday, November 17, end of their seasons.

Lehigh 38, Lafayette 21, yesterday, November 17, end of their seasons. 
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 18, 2012, 06:49:53 AM
South Carolina-Clemson; a hard one to pick, but one hopes South Carolina.

No matter what kind of season either team has had....all is forgiven if they win that one. They used to play this game in the state capitol on a Thursday while the state fair was being held. That day was called "Big Thursday", but then back around  1958 a helleva  a fight broke out after the game involving everyone in the stadium... :lmao:...so since that time it's been the last game of the season so everyone will have time to get well before the next years games begin. Wouldn't want any fans to miss any football games due to some minor injuries you know.

BTW: I was there with my Boy Scout Troop that day but we missed the fight. Our scout master had marched us out before the game was over in the hopes that he wouldn't lose any of us in the crowd. We were on the cattle truck headed home when we heard about the fight. There were so many cop cars and highway patrol cars headed toward the stadium that the scout master stopped and asked what was happening...... :lmao:......the rednecks and the city slickers were having it out.... :lmao:

ETA: Some history and some post Civil War "Politics" in the first few paragraphs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina%E2%80%93Clemson_rivalry.






Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: BlueStateSaint on November 19, 2012, 08:51:57 AM
Notre Dame-Southern California; nobody, but nobody, could ever cheer for Notre Dame other than their alumni.


I had thought that it's a canon of the Roman Catholic Church in America that Catholics had to pull for Notre Dame . . . :tongue: :fuelfire: O-)
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: Mike220 on November 19, 2012, 12:50:18 PM

Washington-Washington State; an ancient first-class rivalry; probably Washington.

Fixed

U-Dub is leading that rivalry 67-31-6 and I don't see them breaking their streak this year to a 2-9 Wazzu.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: debk on November 19, 2012, 01:13:26 PM
Kentucky-Tennessee; Tennessee lost to Vanderbilt, so probably no matter how bad Kentucky is, as Kentucky usually is, Kentucky wins. 

It was horrible to lose to Vandy.

Losing to Kentucky?

Coach is already fired, and not going to be there, which is a good thing. Otherwise he would probably get tarred and feathered, then run out of town.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: ChuckJ on November 19, 2012, 06:33:12 PM
Georgia Tech-Georgia

I'm a bigger the GT fan than Georgia fan BUT Georgia has a chance (though extremely slim) of making it to the championship game so I've got to pull for Georgia.

South Carolina-Clemson

I like the ball coach so I've also got to go with Carolina.

My answer brings to mind a question that JohnnyReb maybe can answer. I have never given it any thought before, but around my part of Georgia most people refer to South Carolina as simply 'Carolina'. North Carolina is usually always called North Carolina. Is there any reason for this?

Missouri-Texas A&M

I like A&M for some reason.

Notre Dame-Southern California

I used to hate Notre Dame. The hatred left when they beat Miami (a team I loathe) back in 80s. Since them I've come to be a fan.

Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 19, 2012, 06:39:36 PM
I just saw Maryland's joining the Big 10.  Why?

And Rutgers is expected to follow.  Why?

Why even have conferences if this sort of thing keeps going on?

Two parvenus; I can't believe the traditional teams, teams with history, of the Big 10, are letting them in.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 23, 2012, 07:13:13 AM
Akron 23
Toledo 35 (Tuesday)

Texas Christian 20
Texas 13 (Thursday)
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 23, 2012, 11:32:52 AM
Syracuse 17, Temple 13, second quarter

Ohio 6, Kent State 21, second quarter

Nebraska 3, Iowa 0, first quarter
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 23, 2012, 11:33:44 AM
Oopsy-doops.

Nebraska 3, Iowa 6, first quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 23, 2012, 11:34:22 AM
Nebraska 3, Iowa 7, first quarter
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 23, 2012, 11:48:05 AM
Nebraska 27-12-2 against Iowa.
Title: Re: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 23, 2012, 11:57:01 AM
Go freaking Horned Frogs! So proud of my alma mater last night! And Frank, yes, no one roots for Texas unless they went to school there.

Sorry about the Huskers at the moment...
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: BigTex on November 23, 2012, 12:09:13 PM
Go freaking Horned Frogs! So proud of my alma mater last night! And Frank, yes, no one roots for Texas unless they went to school there.

Sorry about the Huskers at the moment...

What? I know a bunch of people that didnt go to Texas that root for them. Especially after 2005
Title: Re: Re: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on November 23, 2012, 12:11:52 PM
What? I know a bunch of people that didnt go to Texas that root for them. Especially after 2005

True, sorry BigTex!  Was just so thrilled with the win last night, I had my Horned Frog colored glasses on for that post.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: BigTex on November 23, 2012, 12:14:46 PM
True, sorry BigTex!  Was just so thrilled with the win last night, I had my Horned Frog colored glasses on for that post.

:cheersmate: Congrats on the win, watch out though if yall get too good Texas will refuse to play yall
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 23, 2012, 02:12:29 PM
Well, damn, I wonder what happened to Nebraska.

Nebraska 13, Iowa 7, apparently the final score.

Someone mentioned the wind was really bad over in Iowa City this afternoon.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 23, 2012, 03:09:00 PM
Okay, Nebraska goes to the Big 10 title game, but I'm out of the loop.

Who are the possible opponents?

You know, I was going to try to figure out this really stupid Legends and Legacy division, but I bet with the addition of Maryland and Rutgers to the Big 10, it gets messed up again, and so it's probably a good thing I didn't bother wasting time trying to figure it out.

I really wish Maryland and Rutgers would've gone to the Ivy League instead, as that's more like where they belong.  (Of course, probably the snobbish Ivy League didn't invite them anyway.)

But after this narrow win over Iowa, it's sort of embarrassing that Nebraska's considered the best team in the Big 10--Ohio State excepted, for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: BigTex on November 23, 2012, 03:26:57 PM
Okay, Nebraska goes to the Big 10 title game, but I'm out of the loop.

Who are the possible opponents?

It will be Wisconsin

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But after this narrow win over Iowa, it's sort of embarrassing that Nebraska's considered the best team in the Big 10--Ohio State excepted, for obvious reasons.

A win is a win, and Nebraska is 10-2 with 1 loss being to the undefeated Ohio State thats pretty good. But the big 10 is down this year and has been losing ground for a bit thats a big part of why they added Maryland and Rutgers to expand their TV exposure and recruiting base.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 23, 2012, 03:33:50 PM
It will be Wisconsin

Thanks, sir; I've been preoccupied with a whole lot of other things, and wasn't keeping track.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 23, 2012, 03:42:49 PM
Whoops.

Washington 7, Washington State 10, second quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: Mike220 on November 23, 2012, 06:19:48 PM
Well, all right then.  :thatsright:
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 11:48:37 AM
Well, all right then.  :thatsright:

Yeah.

That surprised me too, Washington 28, Washington State 31, final.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 11:50:26 AM
I see that dumping the old stale Big 12 for the hip trendy cool with-it Pacific 12 isn't working out well for Colorado.

Utah 42, Colorado 35, final.

Too bad for Colorado, which along with Penn State has the sorriest-assed fans.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 11:51:56 AM
Arizona State 41, Arizone 34, final.

Ho-hum.

Two more teams trying to buy "instant" tradition.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 11:53:08 AM
Louisiana State 20, Arkansas 13, final.

Was expected, but it wasn't expected to be quite that close.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 11:58:16 AM
Georgia Tech 3, Georgia 21, second quarter.

Illinois 7, Northwestern 17, second quarter.

Connecticut 3, Louisville 0, second quarter.

--I see Massachusetts plays football too.

Since when have puny-assed northeastern states ever played big-league big-time college football?

Michigan 7, Ohio State 10, second quarter.

Rutgers 0, Pittsburgh 7, second quarter.

Virginia 0, Virginia Tech 7, second quarter.

--at least one of my techs is winning, for now.

Indiana 7, Purdue 14, second quarter.

Kentucky 7, Tennessee 14, first quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 12:00:24 PM
Oooops.

Michigan 14, Ohio State 10, second quarter.

Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 01:29:51 PM
Oh now, this is getting scary.

Georgia Tech 3, Georgia 42, third quarter.

<<has always liked college football teams whose last name is "Tech."

And this too:

Michigan 21, Ohio State 23, third quarter.

Come on, Ohio State, widen that margin.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 01:33:29 PM
Illinois 14, Northwestern 48, third quarter.

Probably no one here's old enough to remember when Northwestern was the perennial cellar-dweller.

For decades.

Rutgers 6, Pittsburgh 24, third quarter.

Virginia 14, Virginia Tech 7, third quarter.

Ooops, there goes another one of franksolich's "Tech"s.

Indiana 21, Purdue 35, third quarter.

Tulsa 6, Southern Methodist 28, third quarter.

Kentucky 17, Tennessee 20, third quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 01:37:18 PM
Virginia 14, Virginia Tech 14, third quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 01:37:57 PM
Indiana 28, Purdue 35, third quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 01:38:41 PM
Baylor 0, Texas Tech 0, first quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 01:39:40 PM
Kentucky 17, Tennessee 27, third quarter.

Whew.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 01:47:15 PM
Baylor 0, Texas Tech 7, first quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 03:16:33 PM
Whew.

Michigan 21, Ohio State 26, final.  Close call.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 03:18:41 PM
Georgia Tech 10, Georgia 42, final.

Illinois 14, Northwestern 50, final.

Virginia 14, Virginia Tech 17, final.  One of my Techs made it.

Kentucky 17, Tennessee 37, final.

--the honor of Tennessee has been salvaged.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 03:21:24 PM
Baylor 14, Texas Tech 21, half-time.

Boston College 3, North Carolina State 7, second quarter.

Maryland 14, North Carolina 14, second quarter.

--one wonders why North Carolina and North Carolina State never belonged to the Southeastern Conference.

Oregon 20, Oregon State 7, second quarter.....zzzzzzzzzzz.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 03:24:29 PM
Florida 3, Florida State 0, second quarter.

Michigan State 6, Minnesota 7, second quarter.

Oklahoma State 14, Oklahoma 3, second quarter.

^^^WTF?

Wisconsin 14, Penn State 7, second quarter.

Keep going, Badgers.

Auburn 0, Alabama 14, second quarter.

<<always roots for Auburn excepting when they play Alabama.

<<other than that, in Auburn's corner.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 03:27:01 PM
Indiana 35, Purdue 56, final.

San Diego State 7, Wyoming 7, second quarter.

^^^an ancient small-time college football rivalry; always roots for Wyoming, of course.

Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: GOBUCKS on November 24, 2012, 04:57:31 PM
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Notre Dame-Southern California; nobody, but nobody, could ever cheer for Notre Dame other than their alumni.
I always cheer for Notre Dame when they play Michigan and Southern California.

Even when Charlie Weis was there.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:08:24 PM
Oh my.

I didn't know this.

Ohio State's 44-58-6 against Michigan.

Growing up when Ohio State was premier, I'd just naturally assumed Ohio State led the series.

<<doesn't always check up on things when assumes.

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One of the more famous games in the rivalry is the 1950 contest, colloquially known as the Snow Bowl.
Eighth-ranked Ohio State, coached by Wes Fesler, was scheduled to host the game on November 25 in Columbus amidst one of the worst blizzards on Ohio record. The Buckeyes, who led the Big Ten, were granted the option to cancel the game against Michigan, which would have, by default, given the Buckeyes the Big Ten title outright and won them a trip to Pasadena for the Rose Bowl.

Ohio State refused, and the game was set to be played. Amid howling snow and wind, in what was probably the most literal example of a "field position" game, the teams exchanged 45 punts, often on first down, in hopes that the other team would fumble the ball near or into their own end zone. Ohio State's Vic Janowicz, who would claim the Heisman Trophy that year, punted 21 times for 685 yards and also kicked a field goal in the first quarter for the Buckeyes' only points. Michigan capitalized on two blocked punts, booting one out of the back of the end zone for a safety and recovering another one in the end zone for a touchdown just before halftime.

Despite failing to gain a single first down or complete a single forward pass, Michigan gained a 9–3 victory, securing the Big Ten title and a Rose Bowl berth. Heavy criticism of Fesler's play calling led to his resignation and the hiring of Woody Hayes as his successor.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:13:00 PM
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Between 1951 and 1968 under Hayes, the Buckeyes won 12 of 18 contests, including a 1957 victory in Michigan Stadium, the first game in the series attended by over 100,000 fans. In 1958, Ohio State had a 20–14 lead towards the end of the game. On the final play, Michigan fullback Gene Sisinyak ran the ball from the one-yard line for what might have been a game winning touchdown, but Ohio State defensive tackle Dick Schafrath hit Sisinyak, forcing a fumble. In the 1968 game, Ohio State won 50–14, outscoring its foe 29–0 in the second half and attempting an unsuccessful two-point conversion attempt on its final touchdown.

When asked why he went for two points with an already insurmountable 50–14 lead, Woody Hayes is rumored to have said, "Because I couldn't go for three." The victory gave top-ranked Ohio State the Big Ten title for the first time in seven years en route to an AP national championship. The Buckeyes had also narrowed the series margin to 37–24–4.

Woody Hayes.  Admirable.  Only Bear Bryant was a greater college football coach.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:19:00 PM
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Wolverines coach Bump Elliott resigned after the 1968 loss and Michigan hired Miami (Ohio) head coach Bo Schembechler, who had previously been an assistant at Ohio State under Hayes, to revitalize its football program.

On November 22, 1969, Hayes led his top-ranked Buckeyes into Michigan Stadium to face Schembechler's Wolverines in the first matchup between two coaches who would come to define the rivalry between the two programs.

The Buckeyes brought a 22-game winning streak into Ann Arbor, but behind an inspiring 60-yard punt return by Barry Pierson that set up a Wolverine touchdown in the second quarter, and a defense that intercepted Ohio State six times (three by Pierson), the Wolverines won a defensive battle (both teams were scoreless in the second half) for a 24–12 upset.

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The contest was the first in the famous "Ten-Year War" between Hayes and Schembechler, which pitted some of OSU's and UM's strongest teams against one another. Four times between 1970 and 1975, Ohio State and Michigan were both ranked in the top five of the AP Poll before their matchup.

The Wolverines entered every game during those years undefeated and won only once, a 10–7 victory in Ann Arbor on November 20, 1971. The Michigan graduating class of 1975 shared or won the Big Ten championship every season, yet went to the Rose Bowl only once, in 1972. They only lost or tied with Ohio State during the regular season in that period.

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In 1973, both teams entered undefeated, with the winner guaranteed a trip to the Rose Bowl. The rivals played to a 10–10 tie in Ann Arbor on November 24, and the athletic directors of the other Big Ten institutions were forced to vote on the Big Ten representative for the bowl game.

In a secret ballot, Ohio State won the vote, to the outrage of Michigan athletic officials and fans. Schembechler argued that Michigan was robbed of its on-field achievements, and for months afterward, Ohio State newspapers were flooded with angry Wolverine letters and threats of lawsuits.

^^^does anybody remember that?

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Woody coined the phrase "That state up north" and "That team up north", so he would not have to say the word "Michigan". He was famous for his intense hatred of all things Michigan and according to legend, once refused to get gas in an empty tank, saying: "No, goddammit! We do NOT pull in and fill up. And I'll tell you exactly why we don't. It's because I don't buy one goddam drop of gas in the state of Michigan! We'll coast and PUSH this goddam car to the Ohio line before I give this state a nickel of my money!"[

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During the "Ten-Year War," Ohio State and Michigan shared the Big Ten title six times. Between 1976 and 1978, Michigan won the game each year, and Ohio State failed to score a touchdown in each of those contests. Woody Hayes was fired at the end of the 1978 season after punching an opposing player during the Gator Bowl, which ended the "War." The 1978 game was won by Michigan, 14–3, giving Schembechler a record of 5–4–1 against Hayes. At the end of the Hayes tenure, the series stood at 42–28–5.

^^^Yeah, that was too bad.  Woody Hayes was getting pretty old, and probably on all sorts of pharmaceuticals to help his blood pressure, his heart, his stomach, &c., &c., &c., and the chemical combination caused him to lose it, hitting that player.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:21:58 PM
Oklahoma State 38, Oklahoma 30, fourth quarter.

Damn.

Just damn.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:23:05 PM
Ooops, that's the third quarter in that game.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:24:07 PM
No, damn it, it's the fourth quarter.

The guy in the cubicle keeps changing the scoreboard.

Must have had too much Jack Daniels or Colombian Gold this afternoon.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:24:57 PM
Wisconsin 14, Penn State 21, fourth quarter.

Come on, Wisconsin.....
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:25:41 PM
Baylor 52, Texas Tech 45, final.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:26:30 PM
Florida 13, Florida State 20, fourth quarter.

Come on, Florida.....
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:31:20 PM
Boston College 10, North Carolina State 27, final.

Maryland 35, North Carolina 45, fourth quarter.

Oregon 48, Oregon State 24, final.  Yawn.  When the two Oregons have played football for a while, one can start taking them seriously.

Florida 16, Florida State 20, fourth quarter.

Michigan State 26, Minnesota 10, fourth quarter.

Oklahoma State 38, Oklahoma 38, fourth quarter.

Go Sooners.....

Auburn 0, Alabama 49, fourth quarter.

Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:39:34 PM
Florida 23, Florida State 20, fourth quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:52:18 PM
Oh ow ow ouch.

Oklahoma State 45, Oklahoma 38, fourth quarter.

Damn it.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:53:56 PM
Florida 30, Florida State 20, fourth quarter.

Maryland 38, North Carolina 45, final.

Michigan State 26, Minnesota 10, final.

Wisconsin 14, Penn State 21, with only seconds to go in the game.  Damn.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:54:44 PM
Stanford 7, UCLA 7, first quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 05:56:23 PM
Wisconsin 21, Penn State 21, maybe going into overtime?
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:05:04 PM
Wisconsin 21, Penn State 24, game in overtime, Wisconsin with ball now.

Go Badgers.....
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:06:09 PM
Florida 36, Florida State 20, late in fourth quarter.

It looks as if Florida's finally got things under control.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:10:01 PM
Oh damn.  What a loser of a day.

Wisconsin 21, Penn State 24, final.

Rats.

Screw it.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: Chris_ on November 24, 2012, 06:10:59 PM
Giving up?
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:11:48 PM
Giving up?

No, but I wanted Wisconsin to win.

I wanted Wisconsin to win so badly I would've signed away my first-born male child for it.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:12:44 PM
Mississippi State 7, Mississippi 7, first quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:15:29 PM
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 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:16:59 PM
I take back the above frustration.

Oklahoma State 45, Oklahoma 45, just a couple of seconds left in game.

Going into overtime.

Come on, Sooners.....but you never should've let it get this close in the first place.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:18:52 PM
Missouri 0, Texas A & M 6, first quarter.

This game, among the spurned of the Southeastern Conference, is ultimately destined to be the game of the Southeastern Conference, just to piss the snobs off.  Give it a few years, and there you have it.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:20:31 PM
Florida 37, Florida State 26, final.

Whew.

Oklahoma State-Oklahoma now in overtime.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:22:04 PM
Oklahoma State 48, Oklahoma 45, in overtime, and now Oklahoma has the ball.....
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:23:52 PM
Oklahoma State 48, Oklahoma 51, in overtime.

 :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:26:24 PM
Hot diggity damn, it's official.

Oklahoma State 48, Oklahoma 51, final after overtime.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: BigTex on November 24, 2012, 06:34:36 PM
Texas A&M 14, Missouri 0  5:33 left in first quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:36:55 PM
Alabama beat Auburn today, 49-0.

That's surely one of the greatest rivalries in college football, and Alabama leads the series, 42-34-1.

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1893: First Game - This was first meeting between Auburn and Alabama. Auburn beat Alabama in Birmingham 32-22. It was the second year of each university's football program.
 
1948: Rivalry Renewed - The rivalry resumed after being suspended for 41 years due issues related to player per diems and officiating. Alabama defeated Auburn 55-0 at Birmingham's Legion Field. It remains the largest margin of victory in series history.
 
1957: Auburn's National Championship - Auburn defeated Alabama 40-0 in Birmingham en route to a 10-0 regular season and the Associated Press (AP) national championship. This was the first of two Iron Bowls whereafter the winner was awarded the national championship. Auburn did not participate in post-season play due to NCAA probation.
 
1964: First Televised Iron Bowl - Played on November 26, 1964, this was the first Iron Bowl broadcast on national television. Quarterback Joe Namath led Alabama to a 21–14 victory over Auburn. Alabama finished the regular season 10-0, and won the SEC Championship. This was the second of two Iron Bowls whereafter the winner earned the AP National Championship. National championship trophies from the AP and UPI were awarded prior to the bowl games in 1964.
 
1967: The Run in the Mud – This was the first night game of the series. Thunderstorms soaked Legion Field, turning the field muddy. The game was frequently stopped to clear raincoats and other wet weather gear from the field. Late in the game, Alabama quarterback Kenny Stabler ran for 47–yards for touchdown to give Alabama a 7–3 victory.
 
1971: The Undefeateds - Both teams were playing for a berth in the Orange Bowl to face # 1-ranked Nebraska for the national championship. In the game # 3 Alabama defeated # 5 Auburn 31-7. The game featured Alabama's Heisman Trophy finalist Johnny Musso, and Auburn's Heisman Trophy winner, Pat Sullivan. The victory clinched the SEC Championship for Alabama that season.

[^^^remembers that game, although was young; probably the first one I saw on television]
 
1972: Punt Bama Punt – # 2 Alabama was leading Auburn 16-0 when an Auburn drive stalled, forcing the Tigers to settle for a field goal. On the ensuing possession Alabama was forced to punt. Auburn's Bill Newton blocked Greg Gantt's punt. Auburn teammate David Langner caught the blocked punt and ran the ball back 25 yards for an Auburn touchdown, narrowing the score to 16–10. Several minutes later, Alabama was forced to punt again. Once again Newton blocked the punt and Langner returned it for a touchdown. Gardner Jett kicked the extra point to give Auburn a 17-16 win. In August 2010, ESPN.com ranked the game as the 8th most painful outcome in college history. Despite the loss, Alabama won the SEC Championship that season.
 
1981: 315 – Alabama coach Paul "Bear" Bryant earned his 315th career victory after Alabama defeated Auburn 28-17. With the victory, Coach Bryant passed Amos Alonzo Stagg's winning record and became the all-time winningest FBS coach. Since then, Coach Bryant's wins have been surpassed by Florida State's Bobby Bowden, but Bryant remains second in the List of college football coaches with 200 wins. Alabama shared the SEC Championship that season with Georgia.
 
1982: Bo Over the Top – With two minutes remaining, Auburn drove the length of the field and scored when running back Bo Jackson jumped over the top of the defensive line for a touchdown. Auburn won the game 23–22. The victory ended Alabama's nine-game winning streak over Auburn. Coach Bryant ended his Iron Bowl career with this loss.
 
1983: Bye-Bye Bo - Auburn defeated Alabama 23-20 at Legion Field. Bo Jackson set the Iron Bowl rushing record for 256 yards. Auburn won the SEC championship that season. Auburn was awarded the national championship by Billingsley, FACT, Football Research, The New York Times, and Jeff Sagarin.
 
1984: Wrong Way Bo – Late in the game Auburn trailed by two-points, and had 4th-and-goal from the one yard line. Coach Pat Dye opted to go for a touchdown instead of a field goal. The ball was pitched to Auburn running back Brent Fullwood. Bo Jackson ran the wrong direction on the block, causing Fullwood to be forced out of bounds by an Alabama defender, Rory Turner. Alabama won the game 17–15.
 
1985: Van Tiffin's Kick – After four lead changes in the fourth quarter, Alabama had the ball on their own 12-yard line, trailing by one point with 37 seconds remaining. Alabama quarterback Mike Shula led the offense to the Auburn 36 yard line. Van Tiffin kicked a series-record-tying 52-yard field goal. Alabama won the game 25–23.
 
1986: Reverse to Victory – Trailing 17-14, Auburn had the ball on the Alabama 7-yard line with 32 seconds remaining. The called play was a reverse to wide receiver Lawyer Tillman. Auburn Coach Dye ran down the sideline and shouted for Tillman to call a time out. Tillman attempted to call the timeout, but his signal was not seen by the officials. Auburn ran the reverse, scored a touchdown, and won the game 21–17. Speculation surrounded the play. Alabama's players saw Pat Dye's pleas for a time-out and froze, possibly giving Auburn the needed edge to run the risky reverse.
 
1989: The First Time Ever – Auburn defeated Alabama 30–20 in the first Iron Bowl played at Jordan-Hare Stadium. The SEC championship was shared that season among Alabama, Auburn, and Tennessee; Alabama represented the SEC in the Sugar Bowl.
 
1990: Tide Breaks the Streak - In Gene Stallings' first season as head coach, Alabama defeated Auburn 16-7 in a defensive struggle. The victory ended Auburn's four-game winning streak in the series. The Tide finished the regular season with a record of 7-4 after opening with three losses.
 
1993: Radio Championship – # 6 Auburn defeated # 11 Alabama 22-14. The game was not televised due to Auburn's probation, but was shown on closed-circuit television before 47,421 fans at Bryant–Denny Stadium, becoming the first college football game to sell out two stadiums. Despite the loss, Alabama earned a berth in the SEC Championship for the second straight season. Auburn finished the season undefeated and was awarded the national championship by the National Championship Foundation. This is documented in the 2012 NCAA Football Records Book online. Other national championship selectors included Harry Frye, Nutshell Sports, Sparks Achievement, and David Wilson.
 
1994: The Inch that Stole Christmas - # 3 Alabama defeated # 6 Auburn 21–14. Auburn's drive late in the game ended when they were denied a first-down by approximately one inch. The victory ended Auburn's 21–game unbeaten streak, and earned Alabama a berth in the SEC Championship game for the third straight season.
 
1996: Gene's Farewell - Alabama came from behind to beat Auburn 24–23 in the final minutes of Gene Stallings' final Iron Bowl as Alabama head coach. The win earned Alabama a berth in the SEC Championship game for the fourth time in five years. Later inducted into the Hall of Fame Coach Stallings finished his career with a 5–2 record over Alabama's in-state rival.
 
1999: Alabama's Win on the Plains - Alabama defeated Auburn 28-17, giving the Crimson Tide its first victory at Jordan-Hare Stadium. The win earned Alabama a berth in the 1999 SEC Championship game. Alabama won the SEC Championship in 1999.
 
2000: Shut Out in T-Town - The Iron Bowl returned to Tuscaloosa for the first time in 99 years. Amidst cold weather and sleet Auburn defeated Alabama in a 9-0 victory, and earned Auburn a berth in the 2000 SEC Championship game. It was the final game for Alabama head coach Mike DuBose.
 
2004: Championship Season - Alabama came into the game unranked but led # 3 Auburn by a score of 6-0 at halftime thanks to two Brian Bostick field goals. In the second half, Auburn quarterback Jason Campbell and running back Carnell "Cadillac" Williams led Auburn to 3 touchdowns, winning the game 21-13. The win earned Auburn a berth in the SEC Championship game. Auburn won the SEC Championship that season.
 
2005: Sacked Bama Sacked - Auburn set a new school and series record by sacking Alabama quarterback Brodie Croyle 11 times. Seven different Auburn players recorded at least half a sack in the game, leading Auburn to a 28–18.
 
2008: The Beat Down in T-town – # 1 Alabama defeated Auburn 36–0 in Tommy Tuberville's last game as Auburn's head coach. The win resulted in a 12-0 regular season for Alabama (first time in SEC history), and earned Alabama a berth in the SEC Championship game.
 
2009: The Drive – Trailing 21–20 with 8:27 remaining, # 2 Alabama marched down the field on a 15-play, 79 yard drive, capped by a 3 yard touchdown pass from Greg McElroy to Roy Upchurch. Alabama won the game 26–21. Alabama earned a berth in the SEC Championship. Alabama won the SEC Championship that season, and went on to win the 2009 BCS National Championship.
 
2010: Cam's Comeback – Quarterback Cam Newton threw three touchdown passes as Auburn rallied from a 24–point deficit to defeat Alabama 28–27. Newton won the 2010 Heisman Trophy. The victory earned Auburn a berth in the SEC Championship. Auburn won the SEC Championship that season, and went on to win the 2011 BCS National Championship.
 
2011: Never Again – Following a 10-3 season in 2010, Alabama head coach Nick Saban used the off-season slogan "Never Again" to inspire the 2011 team. During the 2011 Iron Bowl at Jordan-Hare Stadium, the Auburn offense did not score. Alabama won the game 42-14. (The two Auburn touchdowns were from a fumble by Alabama in the Auburn end zone & a kickoff return) Alabama went on to win the 2012 BCS National Championship Game.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: BigTex on November 24, 2012, 06:47:12 PM
Texas A&M 21, Missouri 0  3:20 left in first quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 06:53:31 PM
Okay, I looked something up, regarding the "most painful" endings in college football games.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/features/houseofpain/_/n/8

For some reason they have the Texas-Arkansas game of 1969 as the most painful.

That was an incredible game (from history books); what happens when an irresistible force meets an immoveable object.  I always considered this one the "Game of the Century" for the 20th century.

Number seven's Miami-Nebraska in the 1984 Orange Bowl, when Nebraska went for two and the win, and got none and the loss.

They also have Nebraska-Oklahoma in 1971, the so-called "Game of the Century," as number eleven.

I myself never considered that the "Game of the Century," because Nebraska was expected to win that game anyway, and won it.

The Florida State-Nebraska Orange Bowl of 1994 is number 17, which Florida State won 18-16; this was when I was wandering around the socialist paradises of the workers and peasants, and couldn't keep track.  I dunno what happened.

Number 19's Nebraska-Missouri of 1997, which Nebraska won 45-38 on a flea-flicking play.

As number 32, they list the 1987 Oklahoma-Nebraska contest, which Oklahoma won 17-7.  They called that the "Game of the Century II;" more media hype.

As number 43, they list the Oklahoma-Nebraska contest of 1978, which Nebraska won 17-14 when Billy Sims fumbled the ball on his own three-yard line, if I recall correctly.  Now, that I consider the biggest Nebraska-Oklahoma game ever played.  Nebraska wasn't supposed to win that game, but did.

Finally, as number 50, they have the Texas-Nebraska game of 2009 (not the regular season game, but for the Big 12 championship), which Texas won, 13-12.

That's a pretty interesting site, but biased.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 07:04:39 PM
Stanford 21, UCLA 10, second quarter.

Mississippi State 14, Mississippi 10, second quarter.

South Carolina 7, Clemson 14, second quarter.

Missouri 0, Texas A & M 21, second quarter.

^^^favors both teams so they can kick the snobs of the Southeastern Conference in the balls.  Not this year, not next year, but sometime down the road.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: BigTex on November 24, 2012, 07:07:37 PM
Texas A&M 28, Missouri 0  12:12 left in second quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 07:07:55 PM
Missouri 0, Texas A & M 27, second quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 07:08:35 PM
Texas A&M 28, Missouri 0  12:12 left in second quarter.

Ooops, you beat me by a few seconds.

Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: BigTex on November 24, 2012, 07:24:10 PM
Texas A&M 35, Missouri 0  7:23 left in second quarter.

this one is about over
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 07:24:20 PM
Missouri 0, Texas A & M 34, second quarter.

Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 07:24:45 PM
Texas A&M 35, Missouri 0  7:23 left in second quarter.

this one is about over

You're quicker than I am.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 07:33:01 PM
Mississippi leads Mississippi State in their rivalry, 60-42-6.

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The Battle for the Golden Egg, also known as the Egg Bowl, is an American college football rivalry game between played annually by the Mississippi State Bulldogs and the Ole Miss Rebels. The rivalry is the tenth longest uninterrupted series in the United States. The two teams have played each other since 1901; 1927 was the first year the trophy, the "Golden Egg", was awarded to the winner.

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Up until 1926, Ole Miss had won only five times out of twenty-three. When Ole Miss beat what was then known as Mississippi A&M College 7-6, the Ole Miss fans rushed the field, some trying to tear the goalposts down. A&M fans did not take well to the Ole Miss fans destroying their property and fights broke out. Some A&M fans defended the goal posts with wooden chairs, and several injuries were reported.

To prevent such events in the future, students of the two schools created the "Golden Egg", a large trophy which has been awarded to the winning team each year since 1927. The trophy is a large football-shaped brass piece mounted to a wooden base and traditionally symbolizes supremacy in college football in the state of Mississippi for the year. The footballs used in American football in the 1920s were considerably more ovoid and blunter than those in use today and similar to the balls still used in rugby; the trophy thus, to modern eyes, more resembles an egg than a football. The awarding of the "Golden Egg" was instituted in 1927 by joint agreement between the two schools' student bodies. In the event of a tie, the school that won the game the previous year keeps the trophy for the first half of the new year and then the trophy is sent to the other school for the second half of the new year.

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The game is a typical example of the intrastate rivalries between several public universities in the U.S. These games are usually between one bearing the state's name alone, and the land-grant university, often styled as "State University." Like most such rivalries, it is contested at the end of the regular season, in this case on Thanksgiving weekend, sometimes on Thanksgiving Day (or, in recent years, Thanksgiving Night) itself. At one point the level of rivalry was such that a victory by one of the schools in this game could salvage what had otherwise been a poor season. This was however proven not to always be the case when in 2004 Ole Miss won the game but fired its coach, David Cutcliffe, the next week, following a disappointing season.

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For many years this game was played at Mississippi Veterans Memorial Stadium in Jackson, which seats approximately 62,000. Besides being centrally located in the state, at the time it was the only venue in the state capable of seating the anticipated crowd; for many years Vaught-Hemingway Stadium in Oxford, seated only about 32,000 and Scott Field in Starkville, seated only about 31,000. Both have been considerably expanded and are now capable of accommodating the crowds which can realistically be expected, and both on-campus venues have been continually upgraded to the point where they are actually superior in amenities to Mississippi Veterans Memorial Stadium.

Ole Miss leads the overall series 60-42-6. However, since the Egg Bowl was moved back to the campuses in 1991, Mississippi State has won 12 games to Ole Miss' 9.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 07:36:06 PM
Mississippi 17, Mississippi State 17, second quarter.

South Carolina 10, Clemson 14, second quarter.

Notre Dame 3, Southern California 0, first quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: BigTex on November 24, 2012, 07:43:07 PM
Texas A&M 42, Missouri 0  3:33 left in second quarter.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 24, 2012, 07:49:14 PM
Oh ow.  I think I'm going to call it a night.

Stanford 35, UCLA 10, third quarter.

The gut hurts.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 25, 2012, 08:41:18 AM
South Carolina 27......Clemson 17

Life is good at my house for the next few days. Anniversary today, birthday in a few days.....and Carolina beat Clemson making the wife very happy.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: franksolich on November 25, 2012, 09:40:50 AM
South Carolina 27......Clemson 17

Life is good at my house for the next few days. Anniversary today, birthday in a few days.....and Carolina beat Clemson making the wife very happy.

By the way, you never did answer ChuckJ's question asked earlier in this thread.

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The Carolina–Clemson rivalry, also referred to as the The Battle of the Palmetto State or The Palmetto Bowl, is an American college rivalry between the South Carolina Gamecocks sports teams of the University of South Carolina and Clemson Tigers sports teams of Clemson University. Both institutions are public universities supported by the state of South Carolina, and their campuses are separated by only 132 miles.

USC and Clemson have been bitter rivals since the 1880s, and a heated rivalry continues to this day for a variety of reasons, including the historic tensions regarding their respective charters and the passions surrounding their athletic programs.

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Unlike most major college rivalries, the Carolina–Clemson rivalry did not start innocently and because of competitive collegiate sports. The deep-seated bitterness began between the two schools long before Clemson received its charter and became a college. The two institutions were founded eighty-eight years apart from one another on a chronological scale: South Carolina College in 1801 and Clemson Agricultural College in 1889.
 
South Carolina College was founded in 1801 to unite and promote harmony between the Lowcountry and the Backcountry. It closed during the Civil War when its students aided the Southern cause, but the closure gave politicians an opportunity to reorganize it to their liking. The Radical Republicans in charge of state government during Reconstruction opened the school to blacks and women while appropriating generous funds to the university, which caused the white citizens of the state to withdraw their support for the university and view it as a symbol of the worst aspects of Reconstruction.
 
The Democrats returned to power in 1877 following their decisive electoral victory over the Radical Republicans and promptly proceeded to close the university. Sentiment in the state favored opening an agriculture college, so the university was reorganized as the South Carolina College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts. In 1882, the college was renamed to its antebellum name, South Carolina College, which infuriated the farmers who felt that the politicians had frustrated the will of the people by de-emphasizing agriculture education, even though the school still retained the department of agriculture. Clemson, from its beginning, was an all-white male military school. The school remained this way until 1955 when it changed to "civilian" status for students and became a coeducational institution.

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Benjamin Tillman emerged in the 1880s as a leader of the agrarian movement in South Carolina and demanded that the South Carolina College take agricultural education more seriously by expanding the agriculture department. In 1885, Tillman was convinced of the superiority of a separate agricultural college by Stephen D. Lee, then the President of the Agricultural and Mechanical College of the State of Mississippi, and subsequently Tillman would accept nothing less than a separate agriculture college in South Carolina.

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The annual Carolina-Clemson football game (sometimes dubbed "The Battle of the Palmetto State" or the "Palmetto Bowl" from the state's nickname) is the longest uninterrupted series in the South and the second longest uninterrupted series overall, having been played every year since 1909. The universities maintain college football stadiums in excess of 80,000 seats each, placing both in the top 20 in the United States.

Clemson holds a 65-41-4 lead in the series, which dates back to 1896. From 1896-1959, the Carolina-Clemson game was played in Columbia and referred to as "Big Thursday." Since 1960, the game has alternated between both teams' home stadiums as the regular season finale. Though Clemson leads the football series, approximately forty games have been decided by a touchdown or less. Clemson has more wins against USC than any other program has, and Carolina is third behind Georgia Tech and Georgia in most wins against Clemson. The rivalry is the third-longest continuous rivalry in college football.
 
Every year, each school engages in a ritual involving the other team's mascot. South Carolina holds the "Tiger Burn", and Clemson holds a mock funeral for Cocky. After 7 students (6 from USC, 1 from Clemson) died in the Ocean Isle Beach house fire in 2007, the Cocky funeral was cancelled and the Tiger Burn was changed to the "Tiger Tear Down" for that year.

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The 1946 game could be the most chaotic in the football series. Two New York mobsters printed counterfeit tickets for the game. Fans from both sides were denied entrance when the duplicate tickets were discovered, which led to a near riot.

To add to the wild scene, a Clemson fan strangled a live chicken at midfield during halftime. Fans from both sides of the rivalry, many of whom who had been denied entrance, along with fans who poured out of the stands, stormed the fences and gates and spilled onto the field.

It took U.S. Secretary of State James F. Byrnes, who attended the game along with Strom Thurmond, to settle down the hostile crowd. Once order was restored, fans were allowed to stand along the sidelines, with the teams, while the second half was played to the game's conclusion. The Gamecocks eventually won by a score of 26-14.

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The Southern Conference almost brought the longstanding rivalry to an abrupt end when it ordered Clemson to play no other league team other than Maryland (both Clemson and USC were members at the time). Upon request of both schools' presidents, the S.C. General Assembly passed a resolution on February 27, 1952, ordering the game to be played. The Gamecocks won the contest 6-0. The S.C. law still stands in the books today requiring both teams to play each other every year.

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In 1961, the USC fraternity Sigma Nu pulled what some have called the greatest prank in the rivalry's history. A few minutes before Clemson football players entered the field for pre-game warm ups, a group of Sigma Nu fraternity members ran onto the field, jumping up and down and cheering in football uniforms that resembled the ones worn by the Tigers.

This caused the Clemson band to start playing "Tiger Rag," which was followed by the pranksters falling down as they attempted to do calisthenics. They would also do football drills where guys would drop passes and miss the ball when trying to kick it.

Clemson fans quickly realized that they had been tricked, and some of them angrily ran onto the field. However, security restored order before any blows could be exchanged. The Carolina frat boys had also acquired a sickly cow they planned to bring out during halftime to be the "Clemson Homecoming Queen". Unfortunately, the cow died en route to the stadium. Carolina won the game 21-14.
Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: Rebel on November 25, 2012, 10:15:12 AM
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Back with it's proper owners, Coach Vaught. Hope you're proud!  :yahoo:




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Title: Re: end-of-season games
Post by: JohnnyReb on November 25, 2012, 03:22:20 PM
By the way, you never did answer ChuckJ's question asked earlier in this thread.


Well, I didn't know how to answer that. If you're from SC, The University of South Carolina is Carolina.....and if you're from NC, then The University of North Carolina is Carolina.....my good brother in law is a NC Carolina graduate and the wife is one helluva an SC Carolina fan......when they discuss "Carolina" football I know which is which but with anyone else, it can get....perplexing.