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Current Events => Breaking News => Topic started by: txradioguy on November 13, 2012, 02:48:19 AM
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The Pentagon says the top American commander in Afghanistan, Gen. John Allen, is is under investigation for alleged "inappropriate" e-mail communications, and a senior defense official says there is a "distinct possibility" the matter is connected with the FBI investigation that led to the resignation of former CIA director David Petraeus.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said in a written statement issued to reporters aboard his aircraft early Tuesday that the FBI referred the matter to the Pentagon on Sunday, and that he ordered a Pentagon investigation of Allen on Monday.
The defense official confirmed the investigation was due to allegations of inappropriate emails between Allen and Jill Kelley, a close friend of the Petraeus family who reportedly led the FBI to investigate communications between Petraeus and his biographer Paula Broadwell.
The FBI then discovered Petraeus and Broadwell had engaged in an extramarital affair, which led Petraeus to resign as director of the CIA on Nov. 9.
The defense official says the investigation into Allen involves 20,000 to 30,000 emails that were dated between 2010 and 2012, and that the department is in the very early stages of their investigation
.He would not say whether they involved sexual matters or whether they are thought to include unauthorized disclosures of classified information or any criminal activity. He said he did not know whether Petraeus is mentioned in the emails.
"Gen. Allen disputes that he has engaged in any wrongdoing in this matter," the official said. He said Allen currently is in Washington.
Panetta said that while the matter is being investigated by the Defense Department Inspector General, Allen will remain in his post as commander of the International Security Assistance Force, based in Kabul.
However, he said Allen's nomination to be the next commander of U.S. European Command and the commander of NATO forces in Europe has been put on hold "until the relevant facts are determined."
Allen was scheduled to have a nomination hearing for that position Thursday and had been expected to take that new post in early 2013, if confirmed by the Senate, as had been widely expected.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/13/top-us-commander-in-afghanistan-gen-john-allen-under-investigation-for-alleged/
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Good Lord, now what?
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Good Lord, now what?
From what I can gather...Gen. Allen was hooking up with the girl that was on the recieving end of the hateful emails from the side dish of Gen. Petraeus.
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From what I can gather...Gen. Allen was hooking up with the girl that was on the recieving end of the hateful emails from the side dish of Gen. Petraeus.
Just keep them smoke and mirrors a working and in 6 weeks there will be a mind set of " Oh yes Libya, forgot all about that with this sex thing going on." Ain't it awful, grown men away from home for years at a time that hit on attractive women. Who would have thunk it.
I do not care who someone puts his dick into, long as they can do the Job .I am sure IKES mistress knew all about the plans to win the war, back then it was called pillow talk.
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Just keep them smoke and mirrors a working and in 6 weeks there will be a mind set of " Oh yes Libya, forgot all about that with this sex thing going on."
You finally got something right. :-)
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Rush just said "We have too many generals taking orders from their privates" :rimshot:
:rotf:
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From what I can gather...Gen. Allen was hooking up with the girl that was on the recieving end of the hateful emails from the side dish of Gen. Petraeus.
Did Petraeus send Allen to run interference with that woman to distract her?
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Did Petraeus send Allen to run interference with that woman to distract her?
who knows but man does anyone remember Benghazi?
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who knows but man does anyone remember Benghazi?
Fox News does, but even with them, sex sells more apparently.
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who knows but man does anyone remember Benghazi?
I do, and I'll never forget it.
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This woman, Pam Kelly, had gone to a friend in the FBI about the threatening email Petraeus' mistress sent her. Now it's come out the the FBI agent is obsessed with Pam and he sent her emails too. One was a pic of himself shirtless.
:panic:
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This woman, Pam Kelly, had gone to a friend in the FBI about the threatening email Petraeus' mistress sent her. Now it's come out the the FBI agent is obsessed with Pam and he sent her emails too. One was a pic of himself shirtless.
:panic:
I think this stuff is too fake to be real. I really think this is a bait and switch to get Benghazi out of the news. Hopefully it backfires and makes it come to light more! :censored:
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Either the administration is throwing these two under the bus to run cover for Benghazi or we got generals playing tiddly twat while Americans are dying. Whats worse?
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Either the administration is throwing these two under the bus to run cover for Benghazi or we got generals playing tiddly twat while Americans are dying. Whats worse?
Even worse, if all we have is generals "playing tiddly twat while Americans are dying", at least one of these generals changed assignments while all this was going on, and we're supposed to believe that an FBI background check didn't spot any of it, or report it up the chain of command to the folks who put Petraeus in at CIA? Puh-leazzze... :whatever:
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This woman, Pam Kelly, had gone to a friend in the FBI about the threatening email Petraeus' mistress sent her. Now it's come out the the FBI agent is obsessed with Pam and he sent her emails too. One was a pic of himself shirtless.
:panic:
Damn... That girl must have sunshine floating out of her underwear.
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Damn... That girl must have sunshine floating out of her underwear.
I'd say it's probably more like something that smells fishy.
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I'd say it's probably more like something that smells fishy.
And I just thought Sandra Fluke was in the same room (somewhere)... :thatsright:
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Hi folks,
This whole thing is getting pretty fishy to me.
There is a man named Richard Band, who I have met and have a great deal of respect for, that writes a monthly blurb called The Early Warning Report. A month or so ago, he wrote about what he sees is coming. It may well be a play by Obama to suspend future elections, you get the picture.
One of his articles mentioned that he does not feel the military would allow it to happen. He said he hopes the general in charge is a believer in the Constitution or our country could be in real trouble.
Now my point is this. If Obama is really a puppet for someone or an orgainzation that wants to destroy our country and take it over, now is their time to act. What would prevent that would be the military who would step in and take over preventing the coup. They are trying like heck to disarm our population. To me this reeks of destroying all military officers who would have the moral authority to lead.
I have said for the last few years that there are three generals, Schwartzkov, Frank and Patraeus who could go on national TV, announce that there was a coup, reveal Obama for what he is, and then say they are taking over until the nation settles down and holds a constitutional convention and an election. Were it not for General Washington's view of the country, there were many who wanted to make him king.
By discrediting all the generals they can, that gives more power to Obama and friends. This whole thing is really suspect in my mind.
regards,
5412
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Hi folks,
This whole thing is getting pretty fishy to me.
There is a man named Richard Band, who I have met and have a great deal of respect for, that writes a monthly blurb called The Early Warning Report. A month or so ago, he wrote about what he sees is coming. It may well be a play by Obama to suspend future elections, you get the picture.
One of his articles mentioned that he does not feel the military would allow it to happen. He said he hopes the general in charge is a believer in the Constitution or our country could be in real trouble.
Now my point is this. If Obama is really a puppet for someone or an orgainzation that wants to destroy our country and take it over, now is their time to act. What would prevent that would be the military who would step in and take over preventing the coup. They are trying like heck to disarm our population. To me this reeks of destroying all military officers who would have the moral authority to lead.
I have said for the last few years that there are three generals, Schwartzkov, Frank and Patraeus who could go on national TV, announce that there was a coup, reveal Obama for what he is, and then say they are taking over until the nation settles down and holds a constitutional convention and an election. Were it not for General Washington's view of the country, there were many who wanted to make him king.
By discrediting all the generals they can, that gives more power to Obama and friends. This whole thing is really suspect in my mind.
regards,
5412
This is exactly what I was thinking but I don't have any proof. As soon as I heard about Allen, I began to smell a fish some where.
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Anyone who thinks there is not a full security dosier on every Flag Rank officer is delusional. Just because you are not paranoid does not mean people aren't out to get you.
{snip}In his foreword to my book, Alan Dershowitz discusses his time litigating cases in the old Soviet Union. He was always taken by the fact that they could prosecute anybody they wanted because some of the statutes were so vague. Dershowitz points out that this was a technique developed by Beria, the infamous sidekick of Stalin, who said, "Show me the man and I'll find you the crime." That really is something that has survived the Soviet Union and has arrived in the good old USA. "Show me the man," says any federal prosecutor, "and I can show you the crime." This is not an exaggeration.
[snip}
link (http://www.cato.org/pubs/policy_report/v32n1/cpr32n1-3.html)
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Did anyone hear anymore about Gen Hamm at AFRICOM and the one in charge of the ship outside of Libya? Panetta just demoted a four star Gen who was in charge of AFRICOM prior to Hamm. Said he spent too much money, $98k. Is that excessive for a four star?
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Finally! Someone in this administration is being held accountable for their spending. ::)
That kind of thing should generally start at the top, not the bottom. Just sayin'.
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Did anyone hear anymore about Gen Hamm at AFRICOM and the one in charge of the ship outside of Libya? Panetta just demoted a four star Gen who was in charge of AFRICOM prior to Hamm. Said he spent too much money, $98k. Is that excessive for a four star?
I heard a snippet, wasn't it having to do with financing his wife's travel?
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I heard a snippet, wasn't it having to do with financing his wife's travel?
That was General Ward...General Ham's predecessor.
And it came out yesterday that General Ward will be reduced to the retired rank of Lt. General.
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That was General Ward...General Ham's predecessor.
And it came out yesterday that General Ward will be reduced to the retired rank of Lt. General.
I am not a simple person, but this is getting super confusing to keep up with.
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This gets messier and messier by the hour. This is not good for the top brass and military under Obama.
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That was General Ward...General Ham's predecessor.
And it came out yesterday that General Ward will be reduced to the retired rank of Lt. General.
Pay range for Lieutenant General LTG O-9 $164,221 - $203,710
(based on experience)
http://www.militarypaychart.us/historical/2012-chart/
I am not going to do the math here but he is still going to get one heck of a retirement check even at just 60% of base pay.
Not bad. Not bad at all.
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This is exactly what I was thinking but I don't have any proof. As soon as I heard about Allen, I began to smell a fish some where.
Hi,
There was also a fleet Admiral that was relieved of command immediately after the Bengazi thing went down. They talked about the general but there was little mention of the admiral.
regards,
5412
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This gets messier and messier by the hour. This is not good for the top brass and military under Obama.
They are doing their level best to discredit the one organization the vast majority of Americans still have faith in and believe in.
It's like this Administration is doing it's best to undermine the whole "Support The Troops" thing.
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Did anyone hear anymore about Gen Hamm at AFRICOM and the one in charge of the ship outside of Libya? Panetta just demoted a four star Gen who was in charge of AFRICOM prior to Hamm. Said he spent too much money, $98k. Is that excessive for a four star?
Nothing has been heard about the status of General Ham since this went down. He was at the Pentagon when the Benghazi thing went down. He knows that place inside and out (He was the J-3 under General Pace) so being away from Stuttgart wouldn't have been a problem in directing people where to go and what to do under his command.
The longer they go on the silence on his status the more it becomes very plausible that he and the Admiral were relieved for trying to go against what they were told and actually do their duty to rescue the Ambassador and the others.
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Nothing has been heard about the status of General Ham since this went down. He was at the Pentagon when the Benghazi thing went down. He knows that place inside and out (He was the J-3 under General Pace) so being away from Stuttgart wouldn't have been a problem in directing people where to go and what to do under his command.
The longer they go on the silence on his status the more it becomes very plausible that he and the Admiral were relieved for trying to go against what they were told and actually do their duty to rescue the Ambassador and the others.
And if I might play devil's advocate for just a minute, that is how you manufacture a 'military coup' charge that is believeable to the folk who voted for Obiewun.
Think of it this way, the chief cheese gives the stand down order to a group of renegades who refuse then they go rogue. Now what do you do? Either you have top down command or you do not. (They are covered with the faulty intel argument anyway or at least this is how they present it to the public.) Gee we didn't know but they refused a lawful direct order. Couple that with the fact that the CIA guys are 'former' military, so they are freelancing their defense anyway. Now you get we didn't know what was going on with these guys but we cannot allow the command structure to disobey a lawful direct order. (has there been any proof that, while reprehensible as it may be not to assist, an unlawful order was given to not assist based on the 'intel available' at the time)
As a side note to all this I began to wonder if the strategy of the 3D Chess master is to make it 'seem' as though the US intelligence comunity is incompetent to lull the enemy into a false sense of security. Which is a highly preferable thought to the fact that it is really as incompetent as it is being portrayed.
This has to have the top folk in full paranoid mode. Career limiting moves are seldom made on purpose.
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And if I might play devil's advocate for just a minute, that is how you manufacture a 'military coup' charge that is believeable to the folk who voted for Obiewun.
Think of it this way, the chief cheese gives the stand down order to a group of renegades who refuse then they go rogue. Now what do you do? Either you have top down command or you do not. (They are covered with the faulty intel argument anyway or at least this is how they present it to the public.) Gee we didn't know but they refused a lawful direct order. Couple that with the fact that the CIA guys are 'former' military, so they are freelancing their defense anyway. Now you get we didn't know what was going on with these guys but we cannot allow the command structure to disobey a lawful direct order. (has there been any proof that, while reprehensible as it may be not to assist, an unlawful order was given to not assist based on the 'intel available' at the time)
As a side note to all this I began to wonder if the strategy of the 3D Chess master is to make it 'seem' as though the US intelligence comunity is incompetent to lull the enemy into a false sense of security. Which is a highly preferable thought to the fact that it is really as incompetent as it is being portrayed.
This has to have the top folk in full paranoid mode. Career limiting moves are seldom made on purpose.
You know, Obama is such a wussy, I bet with a glass of water and a pocket handkerchief you could make him spill the beans on himself and everyone else.
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I'm completely paranoid about what is happening to the military. Sequestration, (gutting the military) cancelling defense programs, gays in the military, changing Generals, Panetta in as Sec. of Defense, bowing to Putin on arms control and what we did with the missile defense in Eastern Europe, shutting down NASA, Obama's remark off mic to the Russian Pres.......it all sounds like some anti-American, anti-war, military complex hater to me.
And now that Kerry is being considered to replace Panetta, it's even worse.
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I'm completely paranoid about what is happening to the military. Sequestration, (gutting the military) cancelling defense programs, gays in the military, changing Generals, Panetta in as Sec. of Defense, bowing to Putin on arms control and what we did with the missile defense in Eastern Europe, shutting down NASA, Obama's remark off mic to the Russian Pres.......it all sounds like some anti-American, anti-war, military complex hater to me.
And now that Kerry is being considered to replace Panetta, it's even worse.
Putin recently invited Obama to visit him in Russia. Maybe he wants to see how much more flexibility Obama gained after the election.
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You know, Obama is such a wussy, I bet with a glass of water and a pocket handkerchief you could make him spill the beans on himself and everyone else.
:-) Looks like Rush is on the same track.
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I'm completely paranoid about what is happening to the military. Sequestration, (gutting the military) cancelling defense programs, gays in the military, changing Generals, Panetta in as Sec. of Defense, bowing to Putin on arms control and what we did with the missile defense in Eastern Europe, shutting down NASA, Obama's remark off mic to the Russian Pres.......it all sounds like some anti-American, anti-war, military complex hater to me.
And now that Kerry is being considered to replace Panetta, it's even worse.
This is merely the beginning of the shit from this asswipe.
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:-) Looks like Rush is on the same track.
He is ???????
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:-) Looks like Rush is on the same track.
What's he saying?
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What's he saying?
Rush was pretty much saying in the first hour that the CIAsaid it didn't request assistance, that assests were ready to go and that the former SEALS disobeyed an order to stand down. I just caught bits and pieces as I was in and out of the car running some errands. Anyone have access to the transcript?
So this will be one of the first shovel ready jobs of Obie's new administration. Bury Benghazi is job one.
ETA:
I think this should link to Rush comments:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/11/15/the_fix_is_in_benghazi_dispute_likely_to_be_resolved_in_the_democrats_favor
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Well, for what it's worth, Petraeus is testifying today. According to CNN, he wants to clear up "a lot of misrepresentations of what he told Congress initially" (http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/15/politics/benghazi-hearings/index.html). I guess we'll see if he still retains any honor or if he's willing to help obinga finish corrupting every single institution in our government.
I am no longer hopeful that there will be any justice for the outrages committed by the moochtard horde in this country. I pray to Almighty God that I am wrong...