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Interests => Living Off of the Grid & Survivalism => Topic started by: Mr Mannn on November 10, 2012, 05:47:42 PM
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The govt response will not be urgent. It will be incompetent, and slow.
3 days worth of food are not enough.
Union run states are in no hurry to rebuild the infrastructure you depend on.
Don't live anywhere you cannot walk away from. The island of Manhattan is a prison. The people there are stuck with whatever FEMA decides to give them. This is the perfect scenario for a bug out bag. 10 miles away life is normal, but New Yorkers cannot leave the island.
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I learned that from any number of distopian movies!
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I live 100 miles away from NYC. I fear escape from NY!
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The govt response will not be urgent. It will be incompetent, and slow.
3 days worth of food are not enough.
Union run states are in no hurry to rebuild the infrastructure you depend on.
Don't live anywhere you cannot walk away from. The island of Manhattan is a prison. The people there are stuck with whatever FEMA decides to give them. This is the perfect scenario for a bug out bag. 10 miles away life is normal, but New Yorkers cannot leave the island.
Honestly, we never get Cat 1 hurricanes like that in the Northeast. The folks who were born and raised on Long Island knew to leave as a great deal of the houses on the water would never withstand a cat 1 blowing through - never mind a storm that size.
As for NYC - the Democrats want them to be dependent on government, and the unintended consequences of that is what is playing out there now. It is a byproduct of the liberal agenda. They own it as this is what they created.
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1-FEMA sucks.
2-Obama sucks.
3-Government sucks.
4-Democrats suck.
5-DUmmies suck.
......and we knew that before the storm struck. But the DUmmies still haven't learned it and never will.
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If you are nuts enough to live on a barrier island that is basically just a sand bar, and they forecast a storm surge of 20+ feet and waves on top of that, ****ing LEAVE. For that matter if you live on the mainland coast anywhere under 30' of elevation with that forecast, you should leave too.
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If you are nuts enough to live on a barrier island that is basically just a sand bar, and they forecast a storm surge of 20+ feet and waves on top of that, ****ing LEAVE. For that matter if you live on the mainland coast anywhere under 30' of elevation with that forecast, you should leave too.
Well, that wasn't difficult.
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Well, that wasn't difficult.
Yet, an amazingly large number of people apparently couldn't figure it out.
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Yet, an amazingly large number of people apparently couldn't figure it out.
Hmmmm. I wonder how the majority of those people voted.
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What happened? I thought Obama could walk on water and calm the seas?
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I live 100 miles away from NYC. I fear escape from NY!
I'm about another 75 miles away. Thin 'em out for me, will ya? O-)
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Bss, cats - If you're lucky, they'll screw around where they are long enough for all the on-hand gas to get used up before they decide to bug out, and end up stuck there.
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Bss, cats - If you're lucky, they'll screw around where they are long enough for all the on-hand gas to get used up before they decide to bug out, and end up stuck there.
:popcorn:
I see your point, but some primitive leech is going to get lucky. Mathmatics and all.
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I see your point, but some primitive leech is going to get lucky. Mathmatics and all.
Yeah...what worries me a lot more are the prospects of mandatory relocations of them onto us, or us to make way for them, and seizures by the government of property and food stocks to help their 'Sophisticated urbanite' constituencies.
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If they really believe in Global Climate Change, they'd use Sandy as a reason to relocate everyone badly affected by Sandy. As this idea has not been trumpeted from "on high," it looks as though the government really does know better and use the junk science they support to convince their Plantation residents to continue to do without while they rake in the money and enjoy their power.
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junk science = gore warming = junk napolitano = junk blammo.
That is all..........
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If they really believe in Global Climate Change, they'd use Sandy as a reason to relocate everyone badly affected by Sandy. As this idea has not been trumpeted from "on high," it looks as though the government really does know better and use the junk science they support to convince their Plantation residents to continue to do without while they rake in the money and enjoy their power.
It's obvious they (climate change loons) really don't have any "practical" solutions IF they believe in climate change, they only use it to promote fear and government spending on projects for left wing contributors.
What did I learn from Sandy ??? It's only a disaster IF a republican is president.
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With or without global warming, it's a terrible idea to build up barrier island property on any basis except 'Entirely at your own risk, and it's all on you if it washes out to sea, so don't come whining to us about it WHEN that eventually happens.' They're just big sandbars, they move, grow, and shrink over time...often a long time, often much longer than a single lifespan, but sand barrier islands aren't permanent bedrock-based land.
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With or without global warming, it's a terrible idea to build up barrier island property on any basis except 'Entirely at your own risk, and it's all on you if it washes out to sea, so don't come whining to us about it WHEN that eventually happens.' They're just big sandbars, they move, grow, and shrink over time...often a long time, often much longer than a single lifespan, but sand barrier islands aren't permanent bedrock-based land.
Yeah.....and if the sea level rises one inch, how far inland does the shore line move?
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Hurricane Sandy was nothing less than a wake up call. When SHTF...if you're not prepared...you're just screwed and you will probably be one of those people that will be dangerous because you'll be desperate and needy.
Don't plan on the government bailing you out or rescuing you. This is what happened to those Hurricane Sandy victims. During Hurricane Katrina marshal law was imposed and they confiscated everyone's guns...don't think it won't happen again and next time...people won't get them back next time around since this attack on the second amendment.
If you're not prepared and don't have a plan, you will be herded into FEMA camps, your pets abandoned or shot or you'll die trying to escape trapped on packed highways with nothing and more vulnerable to attack.
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A tale of two states. When Katrina hit New Orleans, everyone in America knew the shit that went on. rows and rows of school buses flooded and ruined. People trapped in the Super Dome. Few had the inclination to just travel 40, 50, or 60 miles away to Baton Rouge. New Orleans should have been allowed to die on the spot and to let the Mississippi to reclaim its rightful course. There were several other Gulf Coast ports that could have picked up the slack. Mississippi and Alabama were probably hit harder than Louisiana, but Louisiana got the play. Bus loads of people were accepted in Texas as refugees.
Three weeks later, Rita, following basically the same track, though at first determined south Texas coastline between Victoria and Corpus would be landfall, kept shifting north until it walked right up the Sabine Channel after smacking the hell out of Cameron, LA again, ripped the hell out of Lake Charles and left Beaumont and surrounding areas in SE Texas ghost towns. The difference was in the state preparations. People trapped in traffic jams took 20+ hours to get far enough North to find a place to stay. When it became obvious the one and two lanes of north bound traffic was bottle necked, the other lanes were made one way traffic lanes heading north. Gas tankers roamed the highways furnishing gas to the cars that were out. Ice and water was furnished. We waited until Friday, and when it was obvious it was coming to us, we went west to Richmond the other side of Houston to our daughters. Maybe saw four or five cars heading west, tons heading east with nowhere to go. Dallas County sent buses to help evacuate, the Air Force had C130s set down at Mid Jefferson County to to evacuate the patients in hospitals that were completely bedridden and needed full care. At the time there was a equipment drive on ship for the transport of equipment used by the Army anywhere, permanently docked in Beaumont. It was used to load all the first responder and police vehicles on board, anchored in the channel, and was offloaded as soon as the winds died down.
Texas, unlike Louisiana was more than prepared for a hurricane or other disaster. A couple of years later I learned my lesson with Ike.
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Me and the hub have both made up our minds...we're not going anywhere if there's an emergency, because we already know that if SHTF weather-wise or other...our chances of survival will be better right here at home than anywhere else. The key is to be prepared for the worst and hope for the best. Trying to evacuate on packed highways will only endanger one further. If I'm going to suffer or die...I'd rather do it right here at home. :cheersmate:
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Me and the hub have both made up our minds...we're not going anywhere if there's an emergency, because we already know that if SHTF weather-wise or other...our chances of survival will be better right here at home than anywhere else. The key is to be prepared for the worst and hope for the best. Trying to evacuate on packed highways will only endanger one further. If I'm going to suffer or die...I'd rather do it right here at home. :cheersmate:
As for bugging out...if you have nowhere to go...don't. Sit it out at home.
That said i will leave if FEMA moves in to force me into a camp. Once you are in, they keep you there. its a prison.
I read about the lawless FEMA camps during Katrina. Roving gangs, rapes. No guns, no guards except on the perimeter, and no way to opt out once you are there. I'll bug out if that's my only option.
In a natural disaster, just walking 10 miles could mean all the difference.
Look at Sandy. People dependent on the govt for food ended up eating garbage, deliveries were few and uncertain.
Power is STILL out for thousands. Yep, Union workmanship (or lack thereof) on display.
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As for bugging out...if you have nowhere to go...don't. Sit it out at home.
That said i will leave if FEMA moves in to force me into a camp. Once you are in, they keep you there. its a prison.
I read about the lawless FEMA camps during Katrina. Roving gangs, rapes. No guns, no guards except on the perimeter, and no way to opt out once you are there. I'll bug out if that's my only option.
In a natural disaster, just walking 10 miles could mean all the difference.
Look at Sandy. People dependent on the govt for food ended up eating garbage, deliveries were few and uncertain.
Power is STILL out for thousands. Yep, Union workmanship (or lack thereof) on display.
Democrats Vote to Exclude Non-Union Construction Workers for Hurricane Sandy Work
http://nation.foxnews.com/sandy-aftermath/2013/01/17/democrats-vote-exclude-non-union-construction-workers-hurricane-sandy-work
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I've got a feeling about the upcoming hurricane season, even though it's the end of January still. If Dandy Andy Cuomo gets his drastic "pro-choice" bill through the NYS Senate (the NYS Assembly is a given, seeing that the Dems have an overwhelming majority there), NYS will get hit with another, maybe bigger, hurricane this year. God has this way of 'chastising' His people.